michael valek
Hall of Fame
But without the thick beam? Thanks
Any racket which rivals pure aero in spin production .....
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Angell TC100
michael valek
Hall of Fame
I was thinking about that but I didn’t like the 95 or 97.......does the 100 play very differently?
n8dawg6
Legend
yep
Johnny-Cage
Rookie
Blade 98S!
GorgeCostanza
New User
pure strike 98
Frans Bleker
Professional
Pure Aero VS
J
joohan
Guest
Probably none but if you want something similar with thin beam, TC100 is where you should start.
Jonathan P.
Rookie
Pure drive for sure... huge spin potential.
donnayblack99
Semi-Pro
Prince Phantom 100p.
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
Yes... it plays more like the 95 but way easier to generate spin and power. 95 requires a lot of unlocking... That said if you didnt get on with the Angell ethos maybe it just isnt your thing.
stephenclown
Professional
Totally depends on the player. Honestly the most spin friendly frame I played was a super low powered 18x20 (pure storm ltd) because I had the confidence to hit out on the ball and that was when I played 90% of my games on clay. This was a fantastic frame for my game. Moving on from that I found the RF97 to offer exceptional control and nice spin but stiff. I then tried the Angell TC95 and found it is a great frame but still a bit of control issue compared to the old PSL due to open pattern. The TC97 18x20 was great but sluggish, spin was better for me due to controlled response. I also played with the TC90 but my wrist wasnt as happy with it but it is an exceptional frame (70RA).
I played with the pure aero for about 6 months and found its spin is average due to the lack of control. Nadal uses 1.35 gauge strings and still had issues controlling this in prototype and stuck with his APDO. If you are swinging with an extreme western it would probably be fine but directional control suffers due to the spacing. Using 1.20 or 1.25 low enough for comfort was just too much effort for me to change all my strokes to get used to.
In the end I have settled on the Prince 93P. It gives me exactly what I need, penetrating spin that kicks forward, depth, control and exceptional feel. Softer than the RF97 but not as much spin as the PSL. If the TC90 was not as stiff that would be my backup to the 93p. I may buy another one later due to the feel and playability.
Spin for me:
PSL
93P
TC90
TC97/RF97 (these played very similar for me)
TC95/PA as I was not confident with these frames from playing so long with 18x20.
Of the frames the PSL is easily the most demanding frame I have ever played, its narrow headshape punishes poor footwork and its lower powered softer feel made it imperitive to play smart. The 93P is exceptional and plays very similar but slightly firmer feel and higher power. A natural progression and incredible addition for 18x20 users.
I played with the pure aero for about 6 months and found its spin is average due to the lack of control. Nadal uses 1.35 gauge strings and still had issues controlling this in prototype and stuck with his APDO. If you are swinging with an extreme western it would probably be fine but directional control suffers due to the spacing. Using 1.20 or 1.25 low enough for comfort was just too much effort for me to change all my strokes to get used to.
In the end I have settled on the Prince 93P. It gives me exactly what I need, penetrating spin that kicks forward, depth, control and exceptional feel. Softer than the RF97 but not as much spin as the PSL. If the TC90 was not as stiff that would be my backup to the 93p. I may buy another one later due to the feel and playability.
Spin for me:
PSL
93P
TC90
TC97/RF97 (these played very similar for me)
TC95/PA as I was not confident with these frames from playing so long with 18x20.
Of the frames the PSL is easily the most demanding frame I have ever played, its narrow headshape punishes poor footwork and its lower powered softer feel made it imperitive to play smart. The 93P is exceptional and plays very similar but slightly firmer feel and higher power. A natural progression and incredible addition for 18x20 users.
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ohiostate124
Professional
Prince Phantom 93p
roger presley
Hall of Fame
Dunlop Srixon Revo 3.0 F Tour
Anton
Legend
whhhaaaa? They are totally different. RF97 has way more stiffness, spin and lift, while TC97 has a lot softer loop and hits kinda flat.
stephenclown
Professional
My rf97 was honestly good at flat hitting more than anything else, felt like a club as well similar to the angell. Its also pretty closed compared to other 16x19 and punishes flat forehands. Just string the tc97 a bit lower. Its also much firmer than the 62ra lead me to believe, and needed full poly for me leading to even more issues. Wasnt bad in hybrid but missing the wow factor.
Please note that this was stringing the rf97 with gut hybrid at 58/55 or so, would not in any way describe this frame as loopy with how it swings. Quite neutral to how it played, similar to my 93P in all honestly. But then I played the black one with lower tension poly and it was completely different so I can see your reasoning.
Feel different - the way that they are needed to play is very similar. Flat hitting first strike. RF just a little better at nearly everything.
Jonathan P.
Rookie
The regular rf97 or the autograph?
DanS
Semi-Pro
I don't think too many people consider the LS to be an RF97, so I'm pretty sure he's talking about the RF97A. Plus the LS doesn't have a 16x19 string pattern.
Jonathan P.
Rookie
I didn't mean the 97ls or the 97L I mean the regular rf97 that is about 332g strung.
DanS
Semi-Pro
Ah, ok.. they refer to that one as the PS97 (or PS97CV for the countervail version) which is the heavier version of the PS97L you have.
Anton
Legend
Only one RF97, everything else is PS97
Jonathan P.
Rookie
Newby question because is my first time playing with Wilson. Every time someone mention RF97 it's taking about the autograph 360+ grams.? And PS97 is the 330 grams version?
DanS
Semi-Pro
Correct
Anton
Legend
J
joohan
Guest
Unless he’s confused, too.
Dartagnan64
G.O.A.T.
While I love my 93P, I get more of a "thin beamed Pure Aero" Vibe from my Phantom 100.
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