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It is part of the tour when it is held as time in the tour's schedule is allocated for it. Winning it will always add to a player's reputation.
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It is part of the tour when it is held as time in the tour's schedule is allocated for it. Winning it will always add to a player's reputation.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
It provides no points so can’t be part of the formal pro tour. Agree on reputation.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
A 32 year run? That's twice as long as most players' careers!
USO
Banned
No but I watched their many interviews over the years.
USO
Banned
Sorry_to_tell_you_mate
Professional
The big titles are the ones played BO5: slams, davis cup and olympics.
So Nadal is goat. Period.
So Nadal is goat. Period.
Nop.
Fed won the WTF when the final was played best of 5
that's lack of education from you sorry to tell you mate.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
And four of Fed's six WTFs.
uscwang
Hall of Fame
Agree with including the Olympics gold medal for Nadal. The common denominator here is participation by all the top players.
uscwang
Hall of Fame
The Big 3 and Murray have kept the lid tight, haven't they?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
3 actually: 2003, 2006 and 2007. 2004 was BO3 because of the poor weather.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
That's right! My memory fails yet again.
Sorry_to_tell_you_mate
Professional
Nop.
Fed won the WTF when the final was played best of 5
that's lack of education from you sorry to tell you mate.
And Nadal beat Federer at Rome in 5 sets, but we are not talking about M1000's either, sorry to tell you that, mate.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
You don’t want to go down that rabbit hole considering Fed’s won many more Bo5 Masters than either Nadal or Djokovic.
Best to just stick with Slams.
Sorry_to_tell_you_mate
Professional
Yeah, that's why I said "we are not talking about M1000's either" (or Atp Masters, for that matter). For most of Nadal's career the masters were BO3, not Nadal's fault.
Meles
Bionic Poster
slams + olympics + year end #1 perhaps?
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
They paid a heavy price for their short-sightedness.
True, but how on earth were they to know in 2000 how great Federer would become?
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Olympics BO3.....
Sorry_to_tell_you_mate
Professional
The final is BO5.
I get it.
WTF the final used to be out of 5 sets. For obvious reasons they must not be taken into account (basically because Nadal can't win it) in the big titles account. On the other hand, Olympics are the biggest thing around. Even though most matches are being played out of 3 sets..... However Marc Rosset GOAT olympic champion 1992 agrees with your statement.
Sadly even the Olympics now have abolished Best of 5 for the next edition. So there is no Best of 5 tennis outside the Slams anymore. It's a shame and I fear the Slams will follow one day.
Depends of the match.
Rosset Arrese was painful to watch....and some say Olympics should count as the next big thing instead of the YEC.....OMG
do you remember the USO 2020 final?
do you remember how Ivanisevic forgot how to serve during match points in Wimbledon final?
let's not dismiss events based on cherry picking.
There's no cherry picking.
I can pick whatever YEC ....and there's no Nadal on the winner's cup.......and many RR..... FACT.
MP #1 = double fault. Second serve flies long approx 1 meter
MP #2 = double fault
MP #3 = Goran prays after getting to the 3rd match point
check it out.
how is Nadal performance at the tournament related to how big / important the event is?
you probably won't argue that RG or Wimbledon or USO are Chalenger or Futures type of tournaments, or will you?
One of the greatest final ever IMO. Loved every minute of it. We won't be able to understand each other.
Most Nadal fans argue that YEC shouldn't be counted as a big major title......And most tennis fans know that YEC is a massive event.
Even thought Nadal killed the FO, it is still a massive event.
depends.
those who worship Djokodal will tell you that it was boring af.
if you compare it to the above mentioned OG video, well, can't say that it is much better when Ivanisevic literally forgets how to serve on MP.
let's just agree that athletes are as well people, they have emotions, their demons, and for this reason the final isn't always the most beautiful match of the tournament.
so, let's not scrap the OG based on 1 match.
Ivanisevic was playing the match of his life in order to finally win a Slam...on the other side of the net, Rafter was trying to win his first slam. Not the greatest tennis match but emotionally so good and great atmosphere. Less depressing than many Djokodal...
Nadal is the guy who won his 2nd MS1000 by outlasting Coria in Rome 2005. He also outlasted Puerta to win his first Slam. Puerta had beaten Canas in the quarter final in 5 sets in that tournament.....No comment.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
I seem to recall hearing that the next final has now been reduced to BO3.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
At Wimbledon, yes. He had already won back to back US Open titles (1997-8).
My mistake. I meant his first Wimbledon.
Rafter had played an amazing SF against Agassi. That match was amazing.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Wimbledon 2001 is one of those tournaments I feel robbed to have not experienced live.
Beckerserve
Legend
So Djokovic is 3rd then? Double amount of slams on his best surface. 6 out of 9 m1000s on his best surface and YEC always on his best surface.
I assume you are a Nadal or Federer fan posting that as it just proves why Nadal and Federer are so revered.
Beckerserve
Legend
Yes it can. The players count it. They know more than we do.
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