Decade of the 2010's is almost over. A look back at domination of Djokovic and Big3 of tennis.
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TearTheRoofOff
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Djokovic won less US Opens than Rafa, despite Rafa not even playing the US Open in 2012 and 2014.....So much for domination 
And Djokovic only won ONE Roland Garros!
And Djokovic only won ONE Roland Garros!
Tenacity
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Yeah its not like other tournaments or statistics matter, its USO here or any other thing that suits your agenda otherwise.Djokovic won less US Opens than Rafa, despite Rafa not even playing the US Open in 2012 and 2014.....So much for domination
And Djokovic only won ONE Roland Garros!
Got it.
Rafael Nadal hasn't won single AO title past decade
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maratha_warrior
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Amazing .
Also that Nadal has won 13 slams this decade shows how competitive and difficult it was to win slams
Also that Nadal has won 13 slams this decade shows how competitive and difficult it was to win slams
maratha_warrior
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Djokovic won less US Opens than Rafa, despite Rafa not even playing the US Open in 2012 and 2014.....So much for domination
And Djokovic only won ONE Roland Garros!
Don't be so much cocky .
In the last decade at USO -
Nadal met Federer , Murray ,Cilic , Wawrinka - 1 time .
Djokovic met Federer , Murray ,Cilic , Wawrinka - 9 times .
Just try to enjoy USO win , don't mock djoker
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dellealpi10
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Nole is the best of this decade. No doubt
UnderratedSlam
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It´s impossible to argue that Novak did not dominate the decade. He is best pretty much in all major categories, and by a wide margin often.Djokovic won less US Opens than Rafa, despite Rafa not even playing the US Open in 2012 and 2014.....So much for domination
And Djokovic only won ONE Roland Garros!
UnderratedSlam
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Interesting how much more Rafa is successful vs the Big 3 in slams compared to overall. This is the stat where RF is quite weak. RF winning so few vs Big 3 is what makes him a bit overrated.
StrongRule
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Didn't Nadal beat Cilic in USO this year? You have a short memory. And come on, a good version of Nadal would have no problems against Murray or Wawrinka in USO.Don't be so much cocky .
In the last decade at USO -
Nadal met Federer , Murray ,Cilic , Wawrinka - 0 times .
Djokovic met Federer , Murray ,Cilic , Wawrinka - 9 times .
Just try to enjoy USO win , don't mock djoker
ForehandRF
Legend
Not overrated at all.Your bias towards Nadal is visible from Mt.Everest.Fed has no obligation whatsoever to lead the h2h with everyone.Tennis it's about titles and the player who wins more is the better one.Federer dominated his peers.
RaulRamirez
Legend
It's fairly incredible how dominant Novak has been the last 10 years, even with his almost two-year injured/demotivated period accounted for.
Even writing off this year's (YE)#1, he will have notched five of them, while being close three other times.
Even writing off this year's (YE)#1, he will have notched five of them, while being close three other times.
maratha_warrior
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now I edited it .
Lol So now Nadal started winning hypothetical imaginary slam matches versus Grand slam champions . Great
PerilousPear
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2011-2020 is the actual '10s decade, but congrats to Novak nevertheless.
ForumMember
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Djoker has been player of the decade without any element of doubt.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
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Yeah, three USOs and one Roland Garros can't compare to Nadal's one Wimbledon and zero AOs in the same period.Djokovic won less US Opens than Rafa, despite Rafa not even playing the US Open in 2012 and 2014.....So much for domination
And Djokovic only won ONE Roland Garros!
UnderratedSlam
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Yes, well, that particular song is being abandoned more and more by RF fans who like opportunist politicians keep changing the rules of the GOAT game by and by. Suddenly it isn´t anymore about slam titles but oter things such as popularity and charisma. Right?
Your fandom of RF is visible from Andromeda, because of how sensitive you are in your reaction to me merely saying he is overrated. I never said RF sucked, I merely said he was somewhat overrated. A great player can be overrated, but to understand that you need to understand what the word overrated means, which I´m not sure you do.
joe sch
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Decade of tri-dominance, never been a decade dominated as much by three players. Would like to see 2000 - 2009 since Fed also won 15 slams equaling the Djokovich number for this decade. The next decade will surely be a different story.
Tenacity
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I'll try to do it, not much free time atm.
ForehandRF
Legend
Although english is not my first language, believe me that I know what overrated means.It's not that I am sensitive, it's just the way you said it and you know what I mean.You want to sound objective, but one can feel your bias towards Djokodal and especially towards Nadal and that you dislike Federer to some extent.At least this is my conclusion since I ever saw you posts.
I don't know why you brought into discussion the first paragraph.You should talk with other fans about these kind of things.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Djokovic won less US Opens than Rafa, despite Rafa not even playing the US Open in 2012 and 2014.....So much for domination
And Djokovic only won ONE Roland Garros!
So much for domination? Are you really questioning this after these numbers from @Tenacity? Djokovic also won 5 Wimbledons to Nadal's 1, 6 AOs to his 0 and won all 4 Slams this decade, holding them all at the same time. This is without even mentioning 120 more weeks at #1, 4 WTFs to 0 and nearly 10 more Masters. You have to be kidding with this post. This is one of these most dominant decades in tennis history, in arguably the greatest era.
RS
Bionic Poster
2016 to 2019 probably makes it hard to say this decade was better than the 80s though.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Arguable but I agree there is a strong argument for the 80s over this era.
RS
Bionic Poster
IMO the 80s did not had 4 down years in succession though. 2012 was the finest of this decade though and probably among the best years ever.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
It was and 2011 was great too imo. The 80s did have about 7 ATG players playing at some time or another compared to 3 this era, so you can make the argument for the 80s because of that. The counter to that is that the big 3 were better than any player from the 80s. So you have to weigh and see which is better.
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RS
Bionic Poster
Will be hard. He has been worse than Wimbeldon 2018-AO 2019 let alone AO 2011-USO 2011 and Bejing 2014-RG 2016.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
It'll definitely be tough, agreed. I thought even at Wimbledon he wasn't close to his best.
RS
Bionic Poster
This year. In 18 was great though.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Definitely
RS
Bionic Poster
I think 2011 gets a bit too much credit competition wise IMO. But still the BIG 4 was amazing and the clashes were unreal. 2nd tier players were not too good though. I agree with the rest.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
The level of the top tier of players was very high though. Agree to disagree.
RS
Bionic Poster
Probably among the best with the top players performed. 2011/2012 and 2015 in terms of how dominant the top players were. Djokovic was actually the best in all 3 years.
RelentlessAttack
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Nadal is a strange one to evaluate because he’s never dominated consecutive years, but very bizarrely has had very high level longevity despite his style. Keeps coming back to pick up a big year every 2-3 years.
Where as 00s definitely belong to Roger and 10s to Djokovic. Even if you measure Nadal by his 05-14 prime you don’t get the same type of dominance because he was an incomplete player early on and later kept missing significant chunks of seasons
I would be really curious to see Rogers 00s vs Djokovic’s 10s. 2015 on have been serious inflation era stuff though as this has been possibly the first time that there have been no young true greats to push the aging vets out.
Where as 00s definitely belong to Roger and 10s to Djokovic. Even if you measure Nadal by his 05-14 prime you don’t get the same type of dominance because he was an incomplete player early on and later kept missing significant chunks of seasons
I would be really curious to see Rogers 00s vs Djokovic’s 10s. 2015 on have been serious inflation era stuff though as this has been possibly the first time that there have been no young true greats to push the aging vets out.
NoleFam
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Djokovic was 27/28 in 2015, which is still prime age in tennis, and very much at his peak. It was his era and he was at the pinnacle of sport age wise so who exactly was supposed to push him out? He was far and above every player on the planet and had good competition but they couldn't knock him off at stride at least not consistently. Funny this is being criticized but not years like 2004 and 2006.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
As always, you see only what you want to see. Even most Federer fans don't call 2006 a strong year. (though at least Federer had the toughest possible competition on clay, while Djokovic's clay competition in 2015 was a total joke)
RelentlessAttack
Hall of Fame
2003-4 get criticized plenty.
This is what I’m talking about:
Breakthrough young players
00 - Safin
01 - Hewitt
03 - Federer, Roddick
05 - Nadal
07 - Djokovic
08 - Murray
09 - Delpo (subsequently injured).
10-19 - ???
Until 2013ish it was ok because some mix of the 3 ATGs were all very good and battling each other hard. After Federer fell off in 13 and Nadal in 14, the lack of young players became an issue. All three guys have inflated their resumes massively in the last years, especially since 2016.
Competition and true level matters, therefore I rank Federer 05 over 06, and Djokovic 11 over 15, even though the latter versions had better records.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
I think the person I was responding to can speak for himself since as always you are going on a tangent that has nothing to do with the point being made. Nadal couldn't even make a Slam hardcourt SF in 2006 whereas Murray and Wawrinka both could in 2015 as well as clay, and Federer made finals on hard and grass. So while you are calling Djokovic's clay competition a joke, you basically are shooting yourself in the foot.
RelentlessAttack
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Wawrinka is a weird case who bloomed very late and has a specific matchup advantage against Djokovic. Honestly he’s the only thing that saved the level of competition in some of these years but rarely showed up. I’d compare his FO15 to Safin’s AO05
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StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't get your point. Hardcourt is irrelevant to clay.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
OK fair enough but criticizing 2015 for having no younger blossoming standouts is sort of cherry picking while ignoring years like 2004 which had no ATGs whatsoever in dominant positions of the sport or years like 2006 as well, except a budding Nadal. Djokovic still had two ATGs playing in 2015 as well Murray, Wawrinka and the slew of good lower tier players like Tsonga and Berdych. Saying there were no younger players in 2015 kind of falls on deaf ears because Djokovic was still considered young in tennis years and no one was going to stop him anyway except probably Nadal if he was at a higher level on clay. Saying there are no younger players in 2017 onwards makes more sense since by that time all the Big 3, Murray and Wawrinka were over 30.
tennis_pro
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Not playing = would've lost in the 1st round. Nadal only plays the US Open when he knows he'll get a mug draw.Djokovic won less US Opens than Rafa, despite Rafa not even playing the US Open in 2012 and 2014.....So much for domination
And Djokovic only won ONE Roland Garros!
Which is pretty much all the time.
RelentlessAttack
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27-28 is only considered young in the big 3 era. How come until 2009 we had 20ish year olds breaking through on the biggest stages against the hardest competition every 1-2 years?
I’m not saying he was “old”, just that he didn’t have to compete against a 20ish year old version of tier 1-4 level great at that stage.
In most eras great players have to battle the previous, their contemporaries, and then the younger gen. But the latter has been missing for whatever reason. If you look at the historical stats, younger ATGs inevitably have bad records against their predecessors to start, and then turn around the H2H massively as time progresses. Djokovic and Nadal haven’t faced that from the younger gen. Nadal had a lot of miles on his body by 2011 when Nole truly stepped it up to the next level so at least Nadal had to deal with that. But then there were no younger players to stop Nadal and Federer from inflating their resumes in the times when Djokovic has had a drop of form.
Weak era jokes are made so often about 04-07 that I felt it was pointless to mention.
I consider 07-12 to be the strongest years of the modern era. And each of the big 3 walked away with 2 YE #1s in that period.
27-28 is only considered young in the big 3 era. How come until 2009 we had 20ish year olds breaking through on the biggest stages against the hardest competition every 1-2 years?
I’m not saying he was “old”, just that he didn’t have to compete against a 20ish year old version of tier 1-4 level great at that stage.
In most eras great players have to battle the previous, their contemporaries, and then the younger gen. But the latter has been missing for whatever reason. If you look at the historical stats, younger ATGs inevitably have bad records against their predecessors to start, and then turn around the H2H massively as time progresses. Djokovic and Nadal haven’t faced that from the younger gen. Nadal had a lot of miles on his body by 2011 when Nole truly stepped it up to the next level so at least Nadal had to deal with that. But then there were no younger players to stop Nadal and Federer from inflating their resumes in the times when Djokovic has had a drop of form.
Weak era jokes are made so often about 04-07 that I felt it was pointless to mention.
I consider 07-12 to be the strongest years of the modern era. And each of the big 3 walked away with 2 YE #1s in that period.
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