Exactly 10 years ago Federer was publicly struggling to accept Djokovic defeat. How do you see it now?

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Kralingen

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Federer was so arrogant from 2009-12, lol.

As a kid who was his fan at this point, this turned me off him a fair bit tbh. The return only made it 30-40 5-3 and you still lost.

With hindsight this is now my favorite interview of all time, the pure salt and entitlement radiating through his words was undeniably genuine. Everything the Big 3 now do and say is so hopelessly sanitized that glimpses of their real views on life are few and far between.
 

weakera

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Federer was so arrogant from 2009-12, lol.

As a kid who was his fan at this point, this turned me off him a fair bit tbh. The return only made it 30-40 5-3 and you still lost.

With hindsight this is now my favorite interview of all time, the pure salt and entitlement radiating through his words was undeniably genuine. Everything the Big 3 now do and say is so hopelessly sanitized that glimpses of their real views on life are few and far between.

The best big three interview ever is when Djokovic mocked and ridiculed a reporter for suggesting that his tantrums could have theoretically injured a spectator or linesperson.

Biggest interview fail of all-time in retrospect.
 

Kralingen

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The best big three interview ever is when Djokovic mocked and ridiculed a reporter for suggesting that his tantrums could have theoretically injured a spectator or linesperson.

Biggest interview fail of all-time in retrospect.
The ultimate life comes at you fast moment lol. He’s definitely up there in arrogance as well. I’d say it’s more of a pedestrian athlete cockiness though.
 
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About as salty and grouchy as one can be. I am a big Fed fan but there were two occasions where he let me down:
- his post match presser where he refused to credit Novak in USO 2011
- his crying after AO 2009; Rafael had to tone down his celebration as Fed was too much of a wuss. To me, this is the sort of thing a kid would do. Take it like a man!
 

MeatTornado

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One of Federer's ugliest moments, essentially taking his opponent to task for hitting a bold and daring shot on match point. Petulant and juvenile.
Says a lot about how unmemorable and PR-centric his entire career has been when this is consider his low point.

It's really not that bad of an interview. Yeah it's a little off-putting, but it's also a rare moment of pure honesty from him, showing why these guys are usually so buttoned up. Novak did seem out of it and smacked the ball hoping for the best. Once it landed in he woke up and dug in, and it all unraveled for Fed from there.
 
The best big three interview ever is when Djokovic mocked and ridiculed a reporter for suggesting that his tantrums could have theoretically injured a spectator or linesperson.

Biggest interview fail of all-time in retrospect.
I disagree. I do remember the exchange and Novak rightfully pointed out to the journo how irrelevant his question was since his ball smacking didn't hit anyone. Everything is theoretical as long as it does not happen (Novak mentioned it could snow in the O2 arena as well).
 

Permitlady

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Federer was so arrogant from 2009-12, lol.

As a kid who was his fan at this point, this turned me off him a fair bit tbh. The return only made it 30-40 5-3 and you still lost.

With hindsight this is now my favorite interview of all time, the pure salt and entitlement radiating through his words was undeniably genuine. Everything the Big 3 now do and say is so hopelessly sanitized that glimpses of their real views on life are few and far between.
They asked him questions. He gave them what they bargained for. What do you want, really

Yes and as a kid I'm not surprised you started to dislike someone when they lost.
 
Back in 2011 he could have done something about it (of course he never did), now he has no choice but to accept it. Hes probably wondering how he blew all these winnable matches and wondering how he doesn't have 26-27 slams instead of 20 in a 3 way tie
He probably does wonder, but in the bigger scheme of things, he won't care as he's won 20 GSs already.
 

Permitlady

Professional
About as salty and grouchy as one can be. I am a big Fed fan but there were two occasions where he let me down:
- his post match presser where he refused to credit Novak in USO 2011
- his crying after AO 2009; Rafael had to tone down his celebration as Fed was too much of a wuss. To me, this is the sort of thing a kid would do. Take it like a man!
Australian open everybody cries because heat like that can make you emotional. Just like it did Sampras
 

augustobt

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Fed reacted just as I did. Novak simply hit one of the best shots I've ever seen in that return winner. It's not like Federer gifted him (like in W19). So yeah, it kinda ****ed up with Fed's head in that match.
 

Nadal>>>>>Federer

Professional
Says a lot about how unmemorable and PR-centric his entire career has been when this is consider his low point.

It's really not that bad of an interview. Yeah it's a little off-putting, but it's also a rare moment of pure honesty from him, showing why these guys are usually so buttoned up. Novak did seem out of it and smacked the ball hoping for the best. Once it landed in he woke up and dug in, and it all unraveled for Fed from there.
This is only one of many. You know better than most that this is not a one time event....
 

nolefam_2024

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Federer was so arrogant from 2009-12, lol.

As a kid who was his fan at this point, this turned me off him a fair bit tbh. The return only made it 30-40 5-3 and you still lost.

With hindsight this is now my favorite interview of all time, the pure salt and entitlement radiating through his words was undeniably genuine. Everything the Big 3 now do and say is so hopelessly sanitized that glimpses of their real views on life are few and far between.
Exactly. What kind of confidence does this guy have that one return rattles him so much lol. It was very salty answer..
 

TopspintheTerrible

Hall of Fame
Federer was so arrogant from 2009-12, lol.

As a kid who was his fan at this point, this turned me off him a fair bit tbh. The return only made it 30-40 5-3 and you still lost.

With hindsight this is now my favorite interview of all time, the pure salt and entitlement radiating through his words was undeniably genuine. Everything the Big 3 now do and say is so hopelessly sanitized that glimpses of their real views on life are few and far between.

There better be a Big 3 documentary. And not some fluff junk either. I want to know about the time Rafa & Novak almost came to blows in the locker room. The time Fed bought Novak a Porsche just to blow it up in front of him. In other words, John Wertheim better not be producing.
 
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King No1e

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Time flies.

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I think that was at a point in his career where the dominance was just waning and he was in that rough process of coming to grips with the end of his superhuman reign.
There's a reason Fed seemed so salty after USO11 and USO09, but got over Wimbledon 2019 so quickly.
 

King No1e

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I didn't get over 2019 but Federer did?
Very likely. He was 37, had already won everything in the world (especially at Wimbledon), and even had his fairytale comeback. Obviously losing a Slam final couldn't have felt great, but anything further was just icing on the cake for him by then.
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Kralingen

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Very likely. He was 37, had already won everything in the world (especially at Wimbledon), and even had his fairytale comeback. Obviously losing a Slam final couldn't have felt great, but anything further was just icing on the cake for him by then.
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RIP @King No1e . Another casualty of the Federer defense squad. They are paid well, though.
 

Visionary

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10 years from that very moment, Federer is struggling to accept the idea of a retirement. Times truly change but Roger wants to defeat that natural process. Hard to blame this fine man who's shown us moves nobody can make.
 
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That was a low point for him of course -- first year since 2002 without a slam, Djoker and Nadal ahead in the rankings and denying him slams and still well in their primes with more to come, and at 30 he obviously wasn't a spring chicken anymore. Looked like he might have been done or near the end.

But right after, he went on a tear in the indoor season and then had a resurgent 2012 where he reclaimed WB and the #1 ranking. With the benefit of hindsight and what's happened in these last ten years, it's just a testament to Federer's resilience and fighting spirit. This was just one of the many times he's come back from adversity past his prime when the odds were stacked against him.

Edit: the saltiness and sore loser act was classless, but that just adds to the narrative/story IMO -- it gave him a chip on his shoulder and something to prove that went beyond merely just beating his rivals during that late 2011/2012 resurgence.
 
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Fiero425

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That was a low point for him of course -- first year since 2002 without a slam, Djoker and Nadal ahead in the rankings and denying him slams and still well in their primes with more to come, and at 30 he obviously wasn't a spring chicken anymore. Looked like he might have been done or near the end.

But right after, he went on a tear in the indoor season and then had a resurgent 2012 where he reclaimed WB and the #1 ranking. With the benefit of hindsight and what's happened in these last ten years, it's just a testament to Federer's resilience and fighting spirit. This was just one of the many times he's come back from adversity past his prime when the odds were stacked against him.

Yeah, but he needs to accept that the end is here! Multiple surgeries and trying to keep up with kids hitting the ball over 100 MPH! I expected better from him, but he's disappointed me the longer he hangs in there! That sense of entitlement is still dripping off his mouth when talking about attending the Olympics last year! It PO's me big time! He was the man, but 2 rivals will outdo and outclass him eventually! He needs to accept that and move on with his life, his millions, and worldwide fans! "GET LOST OLD MAN!" ;)
 

RaulRamirez

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Says a lot about how unmemorable and PR-centric his entire career has been when this is consider his low point.

It's really not that bad of an interview. Yeah it's a little off-putting, but it's also a rare moment of pure honesty from him, showing why these guys are usually so buttoned up. Novak did seem out of it and smacked the ball hoping for the best. Once it landed in he woke up and dug in, and it all unraveled for Fed from there.
I agree that Roger has not had many public missteps in his stories career.
This was a bit revealing of some pettiness, as Novak was #1 at the time, and also already known for his ROS.

This said, Fed is human - not that big of a deal to me
 

vex

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Frankly I think Fed’s reaction was completely fair. Djoker had not proven himself, in fact he had a bit of a bad rep. Fed was a GOAT contender. A lot of people would react like this in this situation
 

gadge

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There better be a Big 3 documentary. And not some fluff junk either. I want to know about the time Rafa & Novak almost came to blows in the locker room. The time Fed bought Novak a Porsche just to blow it up in front of him. In other words, John Wertheim better not be producing.
What porche?
 

Sunny014

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Back in 2011 he could have done something about it (of course he never did), now he has no choice but to accept it. Hes probably wondering how he blew all these winnable matches and wondering how he doesn't have 26-27 slams instead of 20 in a 3 way tie

Even 2011 was too late.

Should have done something as early as 2009-2010, his dominance had waned and he had to shift to a newer racquet because it was evident that tour was grindier and next gen became physically strong in shotmaking power.

People might say ohh he was still ranked 1 in 09, was winning Slams in 09-10, so why will he change his racquet ?

An underlying disease has to be tackled when it first appears so that it does not spread enough, instead of waiting for it to reach stage 4

In 07-09 it was stage 1
10-11 it was stage 2
12-13 it was stage 3
14 onwards it was stage 4

Federer changed his racquet+coach (that dumb annacone) at the onset of stage 4

Pathetic diagnosis of his problem and bad anticipation of his rival strengths and maybe a bit of complacency+arrogance as well
 
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Sunny014

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Exactly. What kind of confidence does this guy have that one return rattles him so much lol. It was very salty answer..

Confidence comes from know that you have no physically imposing ATG rivals below you.

Confidence also vanishes when you know you have 2 beasts below you and you cannot match their power and they are ATGs.

So it varies ....some ppl r lucky, some are unlucky in terms of confidence
 
The interview that revealed the true Federer underneath all the branding and PR spin.

He's like the arrogant kid who was best at sports at primary school and got used to thrashing the other kids, then moved up to high school and realised there were other kids who were better than him and he couldn't take it.

In other words, a spoiled brat.

Thankfully, he seems to have grown up a bit. Better late than never!
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
Thing is he is right, djokovic was basically out on that point (reaction before the point). He took a risk and luckily paid off.

Still doesn't mean Roger should have said anything, he had another mp.

Problem is most of you all here are some internet warriors so have never got close to achieving anything so how you can spend every living moment on these forums judging these superhumans is beyond me. Respect them all like you would anyone.
 

pj80

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Well, what a surprise. At age 30 Roger needed to grow up. So did I at 30. That's about the age men start to learn what is and is not important. He's know a lot more about life when his twin girls are teens!
Rog got humbled in the meantime and realized that he may not be the goat like the media portrayed him...Rog realized there are 2 players better than him
 
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