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Federer will never win Monte Carlo, calling it right now.
Fed confirms he will not play Monte Carlo
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Mainad
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True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Intuitive.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
He let Stan have it...
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
Roger, come to HOUSTON!
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Been there done that.
Novak could try it at this rate...
Feather
Legend
Last year he could have lost to anyone of these Quarter finalists: Rafa, Stan, Andy Murray, Thiem, Djokovic, Nishikori from QF. MarinCilic and PC Busta are the other players who played QF. I don't think Roger would have lost to PCB. Don't know what happens if Roger plays Cilic in 2017 RG
I Am Finnish
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LoLFederer's clay season:
Warmup:
Main event:
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Certainly won't if he doesn't play it.
Love to see Murray win it. That would be something.
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I Am Finnish
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He was very close in 2014 but red hot stan showed upCertainly won't if he doesn't play it.
Did he play in 2015? In 16 he lost a close match against tsonga
Not if he goes deep in Miami
MurygoatLove to see Murray win it. That would be something.
Mainad
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Love to see Murray win it. That would be something.
It's the only Masters event he has yet to make a final at (keeps running into a certain Mallorcan in the semis).
Mainad
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He lost to Monfils in the 3rd round in 2015, lost in the quarters to Tsonga in 2016, didn't play 2017.
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It's the only Masters event he has yet to make a final at (keeps running into a certain Mallorcan in the semis).
The only big event anywhere where he has not played a final. If he does it, he joins Fedal as making all the big finals, slams, WTF, Olympics, Davis Cup, Masters...not even Djokovic has that to his name. Big feather in the cap.
Mainad
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At the moment, I'm just keeping my fingers crossed he will be able to make ANY finals anytime soon.
mightyjeditribble
Hall of Fame
Next up, Fed confirms he won't be playing Barcelona?
There's a mischievous and childish part of me that loves the idea of Fed playing and winning Barcelona.
(Not seriously, of course.)
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Novak making a deep run in Miami.
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I think he has one final run. He won't reach the crazy heights of 2016 but I feel he will win a few.
Mainad
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In his best 3 runs at MC ('09, '11 & '16) he was always drawn in Nadal's half so kept running into him in the semis. If only he could have been on the other side of the draw just once in any of those 3 runs he would probably have made at least 1 final and so completed the full set. But it is what it is.
ZiggyStardust
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Federer for Hamburg 2018
Mainad
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He has said that he is not interested in chasing rankings anymore (been there, done that and paid a bigger price than he had bargained for) but just wants to get out there and start playing again and hopefully become competitive again. I'm sure there are half a dozen former top players who are currently hoping for the same.
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Yes, I know. He was no push over in those semis either.
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Spot on.
You sound disatisfied by nadals career. Like you cant enjoy rafa, you are longing for more, longing for fed.
There aren't any records that fed is chasing of nadal. There aren't any nadal records which fed doesn't have a similar accomplishment or better. In fact it is nadal who is hanging around trying to catch 20 slams. Nadal will not retire until he knows slam count is gone forever (news flash it has) Maybe nadal is going for 5 titles at 3 slams.
La decima is something made up as nadal trolls have accepted slam count and no1 is forever gone so they are going with the 1 trick RG. Nothing magic about 10. 9 or 11 are similarly good for rafa. Or maybe no one made a fuss as fed already has 11 hardcourt slams and 8 grass slams.
10 titles anywhere clearly isnt a priority - if fed played cinci and won last year he would be gunning for his 9th this year. He skipped it as 10 is irrelvant. As he skipped dubai and many other tournaments where he has 5,6 or 7 titles. Dubai had a joke field could have easily got 8 titles and gone for 9 next year. Clearly 10 titles is a nadal unfulfilled fan dream creation
Sounds like your not happy with nadals career? 10 titles not enough? Do you long for a federer like career? Just enjoy rafas career, why the obession with federer?
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
These are some records of Nadal's that Fed can aspire to although, with some of them, that ship has sailed:
Returning after 7 months off and ending the year as #1
10 consecutive years of winning 1+ grand slam title (2005-2014)
Simultaneous holder of Olympic singles gold medal and Majors on clay, grass, and hard court
Achieved the Career Grand Slam + Olympic Singles Gold medal + Olympic Doubles Gold Medal
Youngest men's player to achieve a Career Grand Slam (aged 24)
Youngest men's player to achieve a Career Golden Slam (aged 24)
Highest overall clay court match win percentage - 91.75% (389-35)
Only male player to win an Olympic gold medal in singles and an Olympic gold medal in doubles in two separate Olympics in Open Era
Longest single surface win streak (Clay courts - 81)
30 titles won from three tournaments (10 at French Open, Barcelona, and Monte Carlo)
Meles
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Please dear lord, just this one thing; fedr on clay in 2018.
Tennisanity
Legend
Why would Fed play the least important, pseudo Master's on the circuit?
() "Highest overall clay court match win percentage - 91.75% (389-35)"
Federe is TWICE as good as nadal. Holds record all time on grass AND hard. Probably not too shabby indoors too and on clay. Nadal 1 trick here.
() "30 titles won from three tournaments (10 at French Open, Barcelona, and Monte Carlo)"
Lol 1 slam and 2 masters all on one surface (1 trick). Try feds only man to have at least 5 titles at 3 slams. Lol his 3rd worst slam is the one he stands alone with 5 consecutive titles and no one has more titles in open era. Lol
() All nadals youngest records, fed matches with oldest. Multiple times. Lol
() Any nadal record of longevity - lol why even bring longevity up? Federer is king of longevity too many federer is better records to even mention. Also feds longevity records are so abrnomal that no one matchest them... in many he is also the no 2 or no3 record holder also! Nadals 1 slam a year for 10 years example is closely matched by multiple others
() Any nadal hold this and this at same time easily outmatched by fed multiple times getting 3 slam wins plus WTF plus final at other slams
sorry fed outshines nadal in every single metric. Nadals records are mainly by virtue of tanking the whole saeason bar clay and vulturing
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Also @clayqueen
No point listing hundreds of records nadal is no where in the same league as fed. Two most important ones:
Nadals slam count is not in the 20's (fed stands alone in 20's)
His no 1 count is not in the 300's (fed stand alone in 300's)
Bonus: Nadals WTF is in the 0's
sounds like you are very disatsified with nadals career. Not content at all. Does the jones family next door have a bigger car?
Why so unfulfilled?
No point listing hundreds of records nadal is no where in the same league as fed. Two most important ones:
Nadals slam count is not in the 20's (fed stands alone in 20's)
His no 1 count is not in the 300's (fed stand alone in 300's)
Bonus: Nadals WTF is in the 0's
sounds like you are very disatsified with nadals career. Not content at all. Does the jones family next door have a bigger car?
Why so unfulfilled?
clarke (and it derivitives) is a VERY uncommon name
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
It's futile comparing a 36 year old to a 31 year old who holds a positive h2h against the old man.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
All of this was old news, I already posted in another thread that he would not play any of the clay tune ups because of:Score for @BeatlesFan
Foundation work in Africa during MC, then a Lindt commercial during Madrid and Prince Harry's wedding during Rome. For the 12,000,000th time: no clay in 2018. But this won't stop at least three new threads this week:
WILL FED SKIP MIAMI AND PLAY MONTE CARLO?
MIAMI COURTS SLOW, ROGER WILL PROLLY PLAY MC!
ROGER SURELY TO PlAY MONTE CARLO!!
tennis_pro
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Yes nadal and fed are not in same ballpark.
But are you talking about davydenko v nadal? Or Mueller v Nadal? Or Brown? Or shapavolov?
Why so unfulfilled?
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BeatlesFan
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@nikdom He said it in Rotterdam, also during the Match for Africa against Gates.
http://www.**************.org/tenni...52608/roger-federer-i-am-a-claycourt-player-/
Also, I hate quoting the Express, but his exact words were: ""But the decision will only be made after Indian Wells."
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/924215/Roger-Federer-Tennis-French-Open-plans-Indian-Wells
Yes until nadal gets his slam count in the 20's
His no1 in the 300's
His WTF's in the ermm whole numbers
Do not talk about nadal and fed together.
Why so unfulfilled with nadals career? Why do obsessed with federer?
Do the jones have a bigger car than you?
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nikdom
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You can't lose when you don't play.
Can't win either. What's the brainiac observation in this?
I think said user is mocking @clayqueen who is deeply unfulfilled with nadals career and constantly insecure about feds achievements
tennis_pro
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That Nadal already has enough wins against Federer and he doesn't need any to maintain the h2h?
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Federer and Nadal are freaks of the game who have transcended the sport. Federer and Nadal fans should be completely satisfied with what these two titans have done. Some of the numbers put up by these two are unfathomable. And I stand by what I said.
Nadal's silent message to those that follow.
If you want to get to Federer, you have to go through me first...and going through me is going to take more than you can possibly imagine....
Nadal's silent message to those that follow.
If you want to get to Federer, you have to go through me first...and going through me is going to take more than you can possibly imagine....
nadal will have difficulty reaching federer anywhere (as he always has) to even get a chance of beating federer. Maybe nadal will get the chance to finally beat shapavolov who is currently a superior player to nadal as shaps seed is low enough to meet nadal
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nikdom
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The latter link points to a Swiss-German (?) site which has the original quote -
Google translation:
That satisifies me.
Coz I followed all the TV and other interviews pretty closely after Rotterdam and MfA. iirc he was more circumspect in those as to the timing of his decision. Don't remember him saying he'd make a decision even before Miami; if anything he seemed to say it'll be after IW+Miami.
So this German interview is new to me. In any case, you and I both know he's most likely just hedging at the moment and has no real plans to play the FO. Why mess with a winning formula? Even Edberg seems to think the same and if Roger still has his ear, no way he discounts Stefan's advice.
Yes they should and most nadal fans are. Above nadal fan is very unfulfilled however and unsatisfied and jealous and longing
But federer beat nadals entire no1 weeks career total in his early 20's in one consecutive stretch. He also beat nadals impressive WTF haul of 0 in his twenties. What does 36 have to do with it? Are you referring to Dennis Shap and his superiorty to nadal? Or Darcis brown superiorty to Nadal? Or Muellers wilbeldon dominance?
Denis > Nadal
Zhilady
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But the 31-year-old Nadal doesn’t have a positive H2H against the 36-year-old Davydenko.
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