@AnOctorokForDinner :
Continuing:
Exhibit B:
He says 2005 final was 2nd worst of Fed's USO finals, that it was worse than USO 2009 final.
Says fed should've crushed Agassi of USO 2005 final as he did Murray in USO 2008 final.
When I pointed out the big difference in serving in the 2 finals, he made it look like it doesn't matter much . Said federer's highs in 2009 USO final were better. I pointed out FEderer's highs in USO 2005 final were better (1st set, 3rd set after being down 2-4 and the 4th set). He had no proper response to that. He alspo pivoted to a BS strawman about Isner serving even after I pointed out about federer's highs in USO 2005 final being better.
Never admitted he was wrong about saying fed should've crushed Agassi of USO 2005 final as he did Murray in USO 2008 final.
When it's your second worst of 7 USO finals and a good couple levels below what you did the year before and after it's subpar. Still a respectable level but not as good as what you expect from Fed. Sorry just the truth.
2nd worst of 7 USO finals?
Better than 2009 final and 2015 final for sure. How the hell is it 2nd worst by any means?
I'd put it a tad above 2007 final. (there were stretches of below par play in both, slightly longer in USO 05 final perhaps scorewise, but he never reached the highs of USO 2005 final in the USO 07 final - and it didn't have to do with Djokovic , considering he did reach those highs in USO 08 and USO 09 vs Djokovic himself)
USO 08 final is also very debatable considering Agassi played much better than Murray did.
I think 09 was better. He should've wiped away Agassi like he did Murray.
LULz, based on what? Fed's worst ever serving day in a slam match at his prime (AO 04-AO 10). Like serving at 51% and 11 DFs to start off with? He had like 15 DFs in 6 matches in the tournament before that. His serving % before the final was 62.1% in the tournament:
or that he crumbled in the 5th set? gave delpo the chance to come storming back in the 2nd set with a silly dropshot?
goes to show crappy your evaluation is considering Agassi played WAYYYY better than Murray did in the respective finals. day&night difference.
Edit: But then its amply clearly you don't understand the importance of serve - given your ridiculous assertion that fed played better in USO 09 final than in USO 05 final. ROTFL.
You went missing on that after I called you out, FTR.
For those who don't know, Federer at 76% in that 2005 final and he wasn't rolling them in either. He was serving normally.
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Regarding 09 vs 05 USO I don't really want to talk more about this but I think the highs Fed reached in 09 were decidedly higher than 05 and that 05 Fed cracked under less pressure from Agassi than required from Del Po Agassi just couldn't keep it up. If Del Po misses one of those passes at 5-4 we're talking about 09 USO Fed with his best slam wins instead of as a loss. You're view of the 05 USO final shows a lack of recognition for the importance of movement and stamina.
so nothing on the serve still? too ashamed?
federer's highs in USO 05 final were better than that in USO 09 final - 1st set, 3rd set after going down 2-4 and the 4th set.
of course you don't want to talk more about that because you got called out big time for your absurd bullsh*t.
the bold part shows you are clueless. Its the lack of stamina&movement part that makes me rate Agassi of USO 05 final not that high. Its only because of the stamina part that I rate Hewitt of USO 05 SF as a slightly bigger potential threat (even though agassi was in a better position scoreline wise). only the stamina part that makes me pause when comparing with USO 06 final Roddick or USO 13 final Djokovic.
But its obvious your delusional hacky view thinking that Agassi of USO 05 final was equivalent to Murray of USO 08 final (you said fed should've put him down similarly) goes to show you don't recognize the importance of amazing groundstroking&returning in this match from Agassi. Oh and Agassi served solidly in the final and was clutch as well.
He served worse sure. Serve is important. It's not all that goes into analysis. If not we can go ahead and crown Isner GOAT no?
No I don't want to talk about it because butthurt fans like you won't stop spouting your unoriginal fed propoganda every time I bring up that one of Fed's 5 USO F wins was not very impressive lmao.
I said "federer's highs in USO 05 final were better than that in USO 09 final - 1st set, 3rd set after going down 2-4 and the 4th set."
that's about the whole game. Did that go over your head? or just pretending?
But its obvious your delusional hacky view thinking that Agassi of USO 05 final was equivalent to Murray of USO 08 final (you said fed should've put him down similarly) goes to show you don't recognize the importance of amazing groundstroking&returning in this match from Agassi. Oh and Agassi served solidly in the final and was clutch as well. "
There are more exhibits, but these 2 should be enough. The 1st one in particular is the most damning.
You can wake up someone who is sleeping. You cannot wake up someone pretending to be asleep.
