Yea Your right. the vp11 will not feel better lockdown wise though. I tried them and they ere better in my mind but farther away from the vp1. You should give them a try atleats though but as much as I'm a Nike guy, there are always Asics speed ff shoes Aswell.

Im really eager though for the vapor pro 3 lol. I wonder what they ill fix.
Do you know when the vapor pro 3's may be released? Only limited colourways (clay version) remaining online with Nike (Australia) -could this be because they are making room for the vapor pro 3's....or more getting ready of Roland Garros colourways to be released??
 

B Cubed

Semi-Pro
Yea Your right. the vp11 will not feel better lockdown wise though. I tried them and they ere better in my mind but farther away from the vp1. You should give them a try atleats though but as much as I'm a Nike guy, there are always Asics speed ff shoes Aswell.

Im really eager though for the vapor pro 3 lol. I wonder what they ill fix.

I agree with this from the lock down perspective. I tried the Vp 11. The cushioning and stability were great. But I felt the lockdown suffered, and I just couldn't adapt to the very bottom heavy feel. I just grabbed a pair of the Vp2 clay, and I'll be exccited to take them out. Just walking around in them, they feel a better lockdown and just the right amount of cushioning without feeling like a ski boot.
 
I agree with this from the lock down perspective. I tried the Vp 11. The cushioning and stability were great. But I felt the lockdown suffered, and I just couldn't adapt to the very bottom heavy feel. I just grabbed a pair of the Vp2 clay, and I'll be exccited to take them out. Just walking around in them, they feel a better lockdown and just the right amount of cushioning without feeling like a ski boot.
The vapor pro 2 has more, "upper" going un. there is just more material which works on some peoples favor and others not so much. Some want the better lockdown which is me, but others want the ability to stretch to adapt to a fight that's possibly wider or weirdly shaped.
 

B Cubed

Semi-Pro
The vapor pro 2 has more, "upper" going un. there is just more material which works on some peoples favor and others not so much. Some want the better lockdown which is me, but others want the ability to stretch to adapt to a fight that's possibly wider or weirdly shaped.

I still have a pair of the 9.5s, still my gold standard. Great heel cup, and lock down on the upper.
 

ClydeFrog

New User
I really hope the 3s come out soon and more importantly are a good shoe like the 1. Trying to find new pairs of the 1s on secondary market at a decent price is a hassle.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
a good shoe like the 1
considering how unpopular this opinion is, it is doubtful that nike will even go back to something like the 1s without some drastic alterations

I feel you though. I liked the React NXTs but it did very poorly in the rest of the market.
 

ClydeFrog

New User
considering how unpopular this opinion is, it is doubtful that nike will even go back to something like the 1s without some drastic alterations

I feel you though. I liked the React NXTs but it did very poorly in the rest of the market.
Considering a lot of pros still wear them, I still see a lot of rec players wearing them and resellers trying to jack the price on them - I think there's a demand for it. I think what makes it doubtful is how Nike spliced off the Vapor line now into 2 different models that are comprised.

The React NXT had a successor with the Zoom NXT. I'm not sure if there will be a follow in that line as often with at Nike they plan these shoes years in advanced as they already had the Zoom NXT planned as the React NXT released, the poor market for those might have killed that line.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
a lot of pros still wear them, I still see a lot of rec players wearing them and resellers trying to jack the price on them - I think there's a demand for it. I think what makes it doubtful is how Nike spliced off the Vapor line now into 2 different models that are comprised.
First fallacy is thinking that this is "a lot". For pros, something like the 9.5 would be considered "a lot". The VP1 is a joke compared to that and can hardly be considered "a lot"

Secondly, the amount of non-professionals wearing the VP1 pales in comparison to other models like the Gel Resolutions.

Third, just because resellers jack up the price on them hardly means it can be profitable for Nike. This is a business first and foremost. You can also find old Vapor 9.5s for jacked up prices on the reseller market as well yet when Nike brought those back, they didn't sell particularly fast or anything.
The React NXT had a successor with the Zoom NXT.
Fourth, the Zoom NXT was not a successor to the React NXT. That was supposed to be the successor to the Zoom GP Turbo. Totally different cushioning.

I don't know how you can make four mistakes in one post but the sooner that you come to terms with the fact that you are in the minority when it comes to the VP1, the less devastating the wait will be. You can trick your mind with wishful thinking and false hope any way you want, but the reality is that the market for the VP1 is ridiculously small. It doesn't matter how much resellers list them for, but the overall market size is too small to warrant any kind of return of the VP1. I hope you are not waiting for some kind of comeback because such a wait will only result in disappointment for you.
 

ClydeFrog

New User
First fallacy is thinking that this is "a lot". For pros, something like the 9.5 would be considered "a lot". The VP1 is a joke compared to that and can hardly be considered "a lot"

Secondly, the amount of non-professionals wearing the VP1 pales in comparison to other models like the Gel Resolutions.

Third, just because resellers jack up the price on them hardly means it can be profitable for Nike. This is a business first and foremost. You can also find old Vapor 9.5s for jacked up prices on the reseller market as well yet when Nike brought those back, they didn't sell particularly fast or anything.

Fourth, the Zoom NXT was not a successor to the React NXT. That was supposed to be the successor to the Zoom GP Turbo. Totally different cushioning.

I don't know how you can make four mistakes in one post but the sooner that you come to terms with the fact that you are in the minority when it comes to the VP1, the less devastating the wait will be. You can trick your mind with wishful thinking and false hope any way you want, but the reality is that the market for the VP1 is ridiculously small. It doesn't matter how much resellers list them for, but the overall market size is too small to warrant any kind of return of the VP1. I hope you are not waiting for some kind of comeback because such a wait will only result in disappointment for you.
Bro got mad over shoes, alright my bad dawg lol
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
Bro got mad over shoe
how did you ever get that I was somehow "mad" over anything? :rolleyes:

I pointed out the flaws in the thought process which you used to come to your conclusions, and then laid out how it actually is. Saves yourself the disappointment in the end. Get over yourself there. Stating facts doesn't mean anyone is mad (or happy or sad or anything for that matter).
 
Not sure if this has been asked before, but has anyone had experience moving from Vapor X to Vapor pro 2 in terms of sizing? Vapor pro 2 initially at least seems 'long', however playability wise it seems totally fine. Maybe just the visual 'look' of it, however when comapred side by side to same size Vapor X, the vapor pro 2 does appear a bit longer to my eyes. Did you guys have to go a half size down? Thoughts? TIA
 
Not sure if this has been asked before, but has anyone had experience moving from Vapor X to Vapor pro 2 in terms of sizing? Vapor pro 2 initially at least seems 'long', however playability wise it seems totally fine. Maybe just the visual 'look' of it, however when comapred side by side to same size Vapor X, the vapor pro 2 does appear a bit longer to my eyes. Did you guys have to go a half size down? Thoughts? TIA

I would recommend just go same size as is.

I wore Vapor X and Vapor pro 1 size 10 previously and now wearing Vapor pro 2 size 10.
there is almost have no size difference.
 
I would recommend just go same size as is.

I wore Vapor X and Vapor pro 1 size 10 previously and now wearing Vapor pro 2 size 10.
there is almost have no size difference.
Hi @shinminsoo86 Thanks for your thoughts. I too did try on the same size on, it was just visually when looking down at my feet that it seemed 'long'. Performance wise I didn't see or feel any difference of the equivalent size, but I am going to try on a half size down to see how this is. Thanks mate.
 

SJS0433

New User
I really hope the 3s come out soon and more importantly are a good shoe like the 1. Trying to find new pairs of the 1s on secondary market at a decent price is a hassle.
Very much so. I've been in the same boat. For me it's just chewing through the outsole that's a problem. Even my oldest pair upper looks and feels fine. I just starting using my last fresh pair. It is annoying to see just how many good pairs there are out there but marked up a lot. I won't pay it either. The VP1 fits my foot so well I don't even need to lace them crazy tight. Haven't found another shoe that even comes halfway close to that level of fit. If a VP3 doesn't come out soon enough I'll probably give the Vapor 11 a shot.
 

SJS0433

New User
Not sure if this has been asked before, but has anyone had experience moving from Vapor X to Vapor pro 2 in terms of sizing? Vapor pro 2 initially at least seems 'long', however playability wise it seems totally fine. Maybe just the visual 'look' of it, however when comapred side by side to same size Vapor X, the vapor pro 2 does appear a bit longer to my eyes. Did you guys have to go a half size down? Thoughts? TIA
I had issues with the VP2 but never even thought to go down a 1/2 size and see how they feel. I might have to give this another look. My problem was that the upper felt more roomy than the VP1 and I had a hard keeping the shoe tight and felt like I was quickly developing blisters. Length felt just right though so really not sure if that's the problem or not. I think it could be worth at least trying one on in store should it come down to having to go that route.

I have my fingers crossed that I can keep finding old VP1 shoes to hold me over until Nike has a VP3.
 
I had issues with the VP2 but never even thought to go down a 1/2 size and see how they feel. I might have to give this another look. My problem was that the upper felt more roomy than the VP1 and I had a hard keeping the shoe tight and felt like I was quickly developing blisters. Length felt just right though so really not sure if that's the problem or not. I think it could be worth at least trying one on in store should it come down to having to go that route.

I have my fingers crossed that I can keep finding old VP1 shoes to hold me over until Nike has a VP3.
It's interesting- Nike brings out new shoes every 2-3 years. Just as I was happily using the Vapor X's for a few years, I now have to try on different new models, like the Vapor 11 and Vapor Pro 2, also tried the GP's, Court Lites and another one, to find a model that suits me, and also a size that suits best. This all takes time and testing, but I guess this is how the world is!
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
ive long considered this as a way to try the VP2, but I still have a massive supply of VP1 - so for that reason i will wait

but at first glance - the more simple herringbone seems like a logical all-surface option

I struck up a conversation with a guy who was wearing them (HC version) at a local restaurant. He actually complained about their clay performance. I think Nike have really tried to optimize each sole this time around
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
It's interesting- Nike brings out new shoes every 2-3 years. Just as I was happily using the Vapor X's for a few years, I now have to try on different new models, like the Vapor 11 and Vapor Pro 2, also tried the GP's, Court Lites and another one, to find a model that suits me, and also a size that suits best. This all takes time and testing, but I guess this is how the world is!

I got lucky. I clicked with the Vapor Cage4 and GP Turbo...VC4 were intro'd in 2019, GP in 2020 and still going strong.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
What was your goto before the GP and Cage series anyway?

Vapor 9.5, then Cage 2 (my favorites). Those 2s I really miss. They were durable but the ventilation was magnifique. Was my favorite shoe and it took me a long time and a lot of money to find a new go-to.

I don't slide, and I jump a lot off/on that right leg when hitting open FHs and donkey BHs. So the Vapor 9.5 just killed my right foot/ankle after a long match
 

nfantunes

New User
When Nike ended the production Vapor Pro I stocked a few (clay and HC)
I bought also one pair of Vapor Pro 2 for HC and Clay and I tried them. I didn´t like to much the first impression from the HC version but strangely I really liked the clay version.

Last week the vapor pro 2 clay were already ruined and I picked up one of the stocked vapor pro and it's funny that now I prefer the Vapor pro 2 for clay... I feel lighter with the vapor pro but overall I prefer playing with the vapor pro 2 (stability, cushion, changing direction, ankle protection)
 
When Nike ended the production Vapor Pro I stocked a few (clay and HC)
I bought also one pair of Vapor Pro 2 for HC and Clay and I tried them. I didn´t like to much the first impression from the HC version but strangely I really liked the clay version.

Last week the vapor pro 2 clay were already ruined and I picked up one of the stocked vapor pro and it's funny that now I prefer the Vapor pro 2 for clay... I feel lighter with the vapor pro but overall I prefer playing with the vapor pro 2 (stability, cushion, changing direction, ankle protection)
Same, I was skeptical about vapor pro 2 and went with 2 more vapor pro 1 models then gave it a try. Next thing you know its my go to. just like the shoe for some reason. I know I sound weird for this but I just prefer zoom air in forefoot, and sense I'm always on my toes and have a really aggressive style, I get greater stability from hat plastic half peace on side and also am able to constantly take full advantage of the zoom air. So it's my kind of shoe for sure, just wish the old vapor pro 1 outsole that integrated the shank was still there but that's all. Feels a little to flexible without shank. When they introduce vapor pro 3 and vapor 11 I hope they bring back react foam. either that or a gosh darn shank.
 
So did everyone stay true to size for their Vapor Pro 2's? Be very appreciative of your take on them size wise.

VP2 feels slightly roomier than Vapor X in toe box at least initially, but half a size down (at least initially) felt definately to small as toes pressing against end of shoe too much.
 

Sevi

New User
So did everyone stay true to size for their Vapor Pro 2's? Be very appreciative of your take on them size wise.

VP2 feels slightly roomier than Vapor X in toe box at least initially, but half a size down (at least initially) felt definately to small as toes pressing against end of shoe too much.
I have the same size at both (VP / VP2) - works quite well for me
 
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