RECORDS after Madrid's final

[peRFection]

- Roger Federer now holds the record for most titles won in the Mutua Madrid Open after claiming his third trophy today.

- Federer becomes the only player in tennis history to win at least 10 titles on hard court, grass and clay courts.

-First player to reach $70 million prize money.

- Only player to win Madrid on three different surfaces (hard, red clay, blue clay).

- Most matches won on blue clay. 100% winning percentage, 5-0. (Rafa at 50% winning percentage, 1-1).

- Most ATP World Tour Masters 1000 titles = 20

- All-time record 32 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 finals.

- All-time record 258 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 matches won.

Good day people

 

[Aeropax]

Nice username.

Grats, gramps!

 

[tusharlovesrafa]

- Roger Federer now holds the record for most titles won in the Mutua Madrid Open after claiming his third trophy today

- Federer becomes the only player in tennis history to win at least 10 titles on hard court, grass and clay courts.

Good day people

LOL..look at Roger,Balls girls are having a Ball Day..

 

[Mustard]

Federer becomes the only player in tennis history to win at least 10 titles on hard court, grass and clay courts.

False. Look up Rod Laver.

 

[sonicare]

False. Look up Rod Laver.

dude..laver is so ancient I cant find **** on him..kinda like jesus. get over it

 

[Aeropax]

dude..laver is so ancient I cant find **** on him..kinda like jesus. get over it

Rod Laver is in the bible? He really IS old.

 

[monfed]

False. Look up Rod Laver.

Will you give it a rest? Different competition,different draws. Totally incomparable. Jesus

 

[Mustard]

dude..laver is so ancient I cant find **** on him..kinda like jesus. get over it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Laver_career_statistics#Singles_titles_.28200.29

There you go. Count the number of grass, clay, hardcourt and indoor titles listed. There are far more than 10 of each, so Federer is certainly not the "only player in tennis history to win at least 10 titles on hard court, grass and clay courts". Anyone saying that is making a false statement.

Will you give it a rest? Different competition,different draws. Totally incomparable. Jesus

I was disproving the statement. Federer is not the only player "in tennis history" to have done said achievement.

 

[sonicare]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Laver_career_statistics#Singles_titles_.28200.29

There you go. Count the number of grass, clay, hardcourt and indoor titles listed. There are far more than 10 of each, so Federer is certainly not the "only player in tennis history to win at least 10 titles on hard court, grass and clay courts". Anyone saying that is making a false statement.

LOL @ thinking that pre-open era counts as real tennis.. LMAO

I have a friend who has won multiple times on different curfaces...only one problem, he won his titles in 3.5 tournaments. should we count him too?

 

[Mustard]

LOL @ thinking that pre-open era counts as real tennis.. LMAO

I have a friend who has won multiple times on different curfaces...only one problem, he won his titles in 3.5 tournaments. should we count him too?

Count the open era tournaments, then. It still disproves the OP statement, anyways.

 

[TMF]

False. Look up Rod Laver.

Oh come on. Jones101 have said it before, then I did, and now peRFection. And you know that it was meant to be in an open era. Not to take anything away from the pre-open era, but it was a divided fields, less competitive thus not equal to today's standard.

 

[Leto]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Laver_career_statistics#Singles_titles_.28200.29

There you go. Count the number of grass, clay, hardcourt and indoor titles listed. There are far more than 10 of each, so Federer is certainly not the "only player in tennis history to win at least 10 titles on hard court, grass and clay courts". Anyone saying that is making a false statement.



I was disproving the statement. Federer is not the only player "in tennis history" to have done said achievement.

Maybe the OP should change his username from "peRFection" to something else...

His post was far from being perfect

 

[Lsmkenpo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Laver_career_statistics#Singles_titles_.28200.29

There you go. Count the number of grass, clay, hardcourt and indoor titles listed. There are far more than 10 of each, so Federer is certainly not the "only player in tennis history to win at least 10 titles on hard court, grass and clay courts". Anyone saying that is making a false statement.



I was disproving the statement. Federer is not the only player "in tennis history" to have done said achievement.

I am pretty sure the OP means in the open era. I like how you will go as far back as possible for Laver, but when it comes to recognizing the real king of clay Max Decugis, you won't recognize his titles. LMAO

 

[monfed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Laver_career_statistics#Singles_titles_.28200.29

There you go. Count the number of grass, clay, hardcourt and indoor titles listed. There are far more than 10 of each, so Federer is certainly not the "only player in tennis history to win at least 10 titles on hard court, grass and clay courts". Anyone saying that is making a false statement.



I was disproving the statement. Federer is not the only player "in tennis history" to have done said achievement.

Yes,let's count his amateur titles.

Quite frankly, I'm sick of you trying to belittle Fed's achievements at every possible opportunity. Show some respect.
And when we use your same idiotic criteria to your hero Ralph such as Max Decuggis > Ralph, you can't take it. WHATEVER

 

[Lsmkenpo]

Count the open era tournaments, then. It still disproves the OP statement, anyways.

i see six clay titles in the open era for Laver, am I missing something?

 

[monfed]

I am pretty sure the OP means in the open era. I like how you will go as far back as possible for Laver, but when it comes to recognizing the real king of clay Max Decugis, you won't recognize his titles. LMAO

Oh but only french players were allowed. Oh but only..oh but only...Yea let's apply current era's standards to Decuggis. What a troll I tell you that MusTARD.

 

[TMF]

Will you give it a rest? Different competition,different draws. Totally incomparable. Jesus

Magaret Court won 11 AO, but Seles won only 4. Yet, Seles is the universal best player at the AO.

 

[tenniselbow1]

False. Look up Rod Laver.

OMG lol at comparing Laver's titles in that era to what Roger just did. There is way to many things wrong with that. No one is matching this stat of versatility in the Open Era for years to come, count on it.

 

[Mustard]

I am pretty sure the OP means in the open era. I like how you will go as far back as possible for Laver, but when it comes to recognizing the real king of clay Max Decugis, you won't recognize his titles. LMAO

The OP says "tennis history". Of course I recognise Decugis' titles, but the fact remains that the French Championships wasn't a major at that time because only French tennis club members could play in the tournament.

i see six clay titles in the open era for Laver, am I missing something?

You're missing something.

Oh but only french players were allowed. Oh but only..oh but only...Yea let's apply current era's standards to Decuggis. What a troll I tell you that MusTARD.

How am I? Decugis dominated the tournament in winning it 8 times, but international players were barred.

 

[Mustard]

Quite frankly, I'm sick of you trying to belittle Fed's achievements at every possible opportunity. Show some respect.
And when we use your same idiotic criteria to your hero Ralph such as Max Decuggis > Ralph, you can't take it. WHATEVER

LOL at the irony of your statement considering the respect you show to Laver

 

[sonicare]

Mustard. You didnt answer my last question. I have a friend who has won 100+ tournaments at 3.5 level across multiple surfaces.

Is he a GOAT contender? Please respond

 

[Lsmkenpo]

You're missing something.

I count six clay titles in the open era, let me guess you are counting doubles too?

How am I? Decugis dominated the tournament in winning it 8 times, but international players were barred.

What you fail to understand is there was virtually zero competition outside of France for clay court tennis at that time, the French dominated the event for decades, so it had zero bearing on his titles.

 

[NRod2]

LOL at the irony of your statement considering the respect you show to Laver

Comparing Laver and Federer is to compare Bill Russel to Shaquille O'Neil or Johnny Unitas to Drew Brees.

His point is that Federer has accomplished something in the current era that is unique and massively impressive, not to have some scour wikipedia to find 40 year old information to disprove his greatness.

 

[Netzroller]

Funny how you all get so riled up about someone stating a fact:lol:

If you don't want to include Laver, write open era instead of history. And whether or not his titles are worth more/less is a totaly different discussion. I actually agree with you that there was less competition back then and if course I agree with you that Federer's achievement is extremely impressive. But still it doesn't change that fact, is that so hard to get?

 

[Rhino]

Other records after Madrid:

- First player to reach $70 million prize money.

- Only player to win Madrid on three different surfaces (hard, red clay, blue clay).

- Most matches won on blue clay. 100% winning percentage, 5-0. (Rafa "King of Clay" Nadal at 50% winning percentage, 1-1).

- Most ATP World Tour Masters 1000 titles = 20 (tied with Rafa).

- All-time record 32 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 finals.

- All-time record 258 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 matches won.

I'm sure there are more....

 

[henryshli]

Weren't there more grass tournaments to be won in the old days?

 

[ThoughtCrime]

Lol'd at "highest winning % on blue clay"

 

[Rhino]

How about:

- First player to beat 24 different players at least 10 times or more (Gasquet joined the list in Madrid).

 

[Tony48]

- Only player to win Madrid on three different surfaces (hard, red clay, blue clay).

- Most matches won on blue clay. 100% winning percentage, 5-0. (Rafa at 50% winning percentage, 1-1).

Can't believe you actually typed this garbage.

 

[peRFection]

Can't believe you actually typed this garbage.

define garbage?!

 

[Rhino]

Can't believe you actually typed this garbage.

That's nothing.

- Oldest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Youngest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Tallest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Most fashionable person to win a tournament on blue clay

The truth hurts baby.

 

[Warmaster]

How about:

- First player to beat 24 different players at least 10 times or more (Gasquet joined the list in Madrid).

That's interesting. What is your source? Or did you check everything yourself?

 

[Rhino]

That's interesting. What is your source? Or did you check everything yourself?

I checked this myself after he beat Rafa at IW. i was interested to know who else he'd beaten at least 10 times. Here's the list:

Rafael Nadal
Novak Djokovic
JM Del Potro
David Ferrer
Andy Roddick
Tomas Berdych
Feliciano Lopez
Mikhail Youzhny
Radek Stepanek
Ivan Ljubicic
Stanislas Wawrinka
James Blake
David Nalbandian
Robin Soderling
Nikolay Davydenko
Jarkko Nieminen
Tommy Haas
Ivo Karlovic
Lleyton Hewitt
Fernando Gonzalez
Tommy Robredo
Richard Gasquet
Marat Safin
Nicolas Kiefer

 

[Tennis_Hands]

That's nothing.

- Oldest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Youngest person to win a tournament on blue clay

The truth hurts baby.

:lol:

Seriously, these trolling threads are getting out of control.

 

[Dean]

Other records after Madrid:



- All-time record 32 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 finals.

- All-time record 258 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 matches won.

I'm sure there are more....

I'd like to know what Lendl's record was in the equivalent 'Championship Series' events which the Masters 1000's were known by from 1970-1989, since he won a record 22 titles.

Also there was a big deal made about Djokovic winning 5 M1000 titles in a single year but no one ever mentions that Laver(1970), Connors(1976) and Lendl(1989) all did it before him.

 

[Russeljones]

Yes,let's count his amateur titles.

Quite frankly, I'm sick of you trying to belittle Fed's achievements at every possible opportunity. Show some respect.
And when we use your same idiotic criteria to your hero Ralph such as Max Decuggis > Ralph, you can't take it. WHATEVER

Maybe it's you trying to belitte a poster's contribution? He's made a perfectly fair statement in refuting the OP. Why can't you all be grown up and just accept it?

 

[monfed]

Maybe it's you trying to belitte a poster's contribution? He's made a perfectly fair statement in refuting the OP. Why can't you all be grown up and just accept it?

Laver won 199 titles. Federer in comparison has 74. This is an irrefutable fact. But it needs to be looked at in the right perspective. That's my point.

Anyway,we have the Laver v/s Federer comparison thread for this type of stuff , since the eras were so vastly different. No point throwing stats around that don't carry equal weight.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

Count the open era tournaments, then. It still disproves the OP statement, anyways.

i see six clay titles in the open era for Laver, am I missing something?

i see 11 clay titles for laver in the open era:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_La...877_including_40_listed_by_the_ATP_Website.29
(this list also includes tournaments not recognized by the ATP website)
but i only see 9 grass titles... do you know the surfaces for the tournaments where the info is missing in this wikipedia article, mustard ? (or maybe you count "uni-turf" as grass ?)

 

[SLD76]

I always assumed the record reflected ATP /open era achievments..as Im sure Mustard understood that, but he was so butthurt about Rafa he couldnt help but throw Laver into the mix.

 

[monfed]

I always assumed the record reflected ATP /open era achievments..as Im sure Mustard understood that, but he was so butthurt about Rafa he couldnt help but throw Laver into the mix.

Exactly.

10char

 

[merlinpinpin]

That's nothing.

- Oldest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Youngest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Tallest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Most fashionable person to win a tournament on blue clay

The truth hurts baby.

Er, first right-handed player to win a tournament on blue clay, perhaps? :lol:

 

[SLD76]

Er, first right-handed player to win a tournament on blue clay, perhaps? :lol:

first man with fraternal twin daughters to win a blue clay tournament.

roflmao.

 

[Mainad]

That's nothing.

- Oldest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Youngest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Tallest person to win a tournament on blue clay

- Most fashionable person to win a tournament on blue clay

The truth hurts baby.

Don't forget to add...only Swiss person to win a tournament on blue clay!

 

[Mainad]

I'd like to know what Lendl's record was in the equivalent 'Championship Series' events which the Masters 1000's were known by from 1970-1989, since he won a record 22 titles.

Also there was a big deal made about Djokovic winning 5 M1000 titles in a single year but no one ever mentions that Laver(1970), Connors(1976) and Lendl(1989) all did it before him.

But are they equivalent? Were the Championship Series events mandatory like the Masters 1000? What kind of draws did they have etc?

There must be reasons why the ATP only considers the Masters series as beginning in 1990 and only counts records from that date. Maybe I've suggested one or two.

 

[Mainad]

False. Look up Rod Laver.

Looks like you've seriously upset some dedicated *******s on here with your archival skills! Keep 'em coming!

 

[TopFH]

Funny how you all get so riled up about someone stating a fact:lol:

If you don't want to include Laver, write open era instead of history. And whether or not his titles are worth more/less is a totaly different discussion. I actually agree with you that there was less competition back then and if course I agree with you that Federer's achievement is extremely impressive. But still it doesn't change that fact, is that so hard to get?

Now it is, as their only about 5 grass tournaments, and most players only play one or two.

 

[Rabbit]

False. Look up Rod Laver.

Dude....you forget that we now live in a time when there is a record for the most farts made by a player in the top 5 on his 1st serve.

Borg never received any recognition for winning Wimbledon 5 times in a row without playing a warm-up tournament. He received recognition for winning Wimbledon 5 times in a row <period>.

Vilas didn't have a special recognition for winning a zillion claycourt matches in a row like Nadal did. Nobody gave Vilas a cross section of a clay court and put him on TV.

Nowadays, fans and pundits alike love to laud "career" Grand Slams and most matches won on clay during full moons without presidential elections. It's gone from absurd to sublime.

 

[rommil]

Mustard. You didnt answer my last question. I have a friend who has won 100+ tournaments at 3.5 level across multiple surfaces.

Is he a GOAT contender? Please respond

Weak era and no blue clay titles since Musty will not answer your question

 

[Blinkism]

I laughed at the inclusion of records involving blue clay.

How insecure are you about Federer's legacy that you actually need include those non-records. You're talking about the bona fide best modern tennis player, here.

100% winning record on blue clay. Really? Fedfanatics are just as sad as *******s, maybe even more given how great of a player they support.

 

[Lsmkenpo]

i see 11 clay titles for laver in the open era:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_La...877_including_40_listed_by_the_ATP_Website.29
(this list also includes tournaments not recognized by the ATP website)
but i only see 9 grass titles... do you know the surfaces for the tournaments where the info is missing in this wikipedia article, mustard ? (or maybe you count "uni-turf" as grass ?)

Mustard probably edited Wikipedia to support his claim, it lists Queensland Hard Court Championships as a clay event twice.