Records in tiebreaks (active players)

abraxas21

Professional
i compiled these stats during the first week of the US Open so they might not be 100% correct but I know they're not too far off...

The criterion for selection is to have played a min. of 90 tiebreaks. Please let me know if any players are missing.

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		W	L	%
1	Federer	286	148	65,90%
2	Djokovic	111	58	65,68%
3	Isner	86	49	63,70%
4	Roddick	280	166	62,78%
5	Nadal	119	76	61,03%
6	baghdatis	75	50	60,00%
7	tsonga	67	45	59,82%
8	F. gonzález	148	100	59,68%
9	Murray	78	55	58,65%
10	nalbandian	110	78	58,51%
11	monfils	77	57	57,46%
13	grosjean	139	104	57,20%
14	nieminem	112	85	56,85%
15	kiefer	120	92	56,60%
12	robredo	129	99	56,58%
16	koubek	91	72	55,83%
17	lópez	142	114	55,47%
18	ferrero	160	131	54,98%
19	malisse	94	77	54,97%
20	haas	164	138	54,30%
21	tursunov	72	61	54,14%
22	Berdych	95	81	53,98%
23	Blake	125	107	53,88%
24	T. dent	72	63	53,33%
25	bennetau	58	51	53,21%
26	Tipsarevic	70	62	53,03%
27	gaudio	80	71	52,98%
28	massu	107	95	52,97%
29	N Lapentti	126	113	52,72%
30	hewitt	143	130	52,38%
31	youzhny	126	115	52,28%
32	davydenko	111	102	52,11%
33	mathieu	96	89	51,89%
34	stepanek	115	107	51,80%
35	clement	126	118	51,64%
36	ljubicic	206	196	51,24%
37	montañes	66	63	51,16%
38	A. Martin	75	72	51,02%
39	simon	53	51	50,96%
40	horna	64	62	50,79%
41	ancic	84	83	50,30%
42	starace	49	49	50,00%
43	karlovic	179	180	49,86%
44	Kohlschreiber	67	69	49,26%
45	andreev	83	86	49,11%
46	gasquet	72	75	48,98%
47	verdasco	103	108	48,82%
48	querrey	50	53	48,54%
49	schuettler	115	122	48,52%
50	monaco	49	52	48,51%
51	ferrer	69	74	48,25%
52	melzer	95	102	48,22%
53	soderling	90	97	48,13%
54	fish	88	96	47,83%
55	acasuso	65	71	47,79%
56	hanescu	78	89	46,71%
57	serra	55	63	46,61%
58	ginepri	70	85	45,16%
59	garcía-lópez	45	56	44,55%
60	llodra	73	91	44,51%
61	wawrinka	58	79	42,34%
62	cilic	41	56	42,27%
63	Almagro	65	90	41,94%
64	seppi	54	75	41,86%
65	O. rochus	73	104	41,24%

The data follows a nice normal distribution :) The mean is 52.16% and the standard deviation is 5.63%

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P_Agony

Banned
Federer has an exceptional TB record in slams. Not so much in regular events.

Great job man.
 
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P_Agony

Banned
Relative to his rank, achievements and legacy; yes. It is pretty bad.

No, its not. TBs are in a lot of cases like a coin toss. You win some you lose some. The serve is a major part of playing a great TB and Nadal didn't have a huge serve up until the recent USO.
 

tennisdad65

Hall of Fame
Big serve is more important than mental strength in the tiebreakers. Nadal's mental strength was overcome by his weak serve in the past. He will get better in tiebreakers now on.
 

Nadalfan89

Hall of Fame
No, its not. TBs are in a lot of cases like a coin toss. You win some you lose some. The serve is a major part of playing a great TB and Nadal didn't have a huge serve up until the recent USO.

It's wierd how you're arguing for Nadal while I'm arguing against him, but I have to say that Baghy, Gonzalez and Tsonga don't have the biggest serves, and they should definitely not be ahead of Nadal.

Nadal is taken to tiebreaks far less often than most players, so he doesn't have as much experience with them is why I think he's not top 5.
 

abraxas21

Professional
So now #8 in this huge list is "terrible"? :shock:

yeah, i checked the stats and given that nadal won 3 tiebreaks in the us open and lost none, he's now actually fifth in the list. not bad at all...
i'll try to keep the stats updated regularly for the top 10 at least.
 

P_Agony

Banned
It's wierd how you're arguing for Nadal while I'm arguing against him, but I have to say that Baghy, Gonzalez and Tsonga don't have the biggest serves, and they should definitely not be ahead of Nadal.

Nadal is taken to tiebreaks far less often than most players, so he doesn't have as much experience with them is why I think he's not top 5.

Nadal is the best player in the world. I said it once and I'll say it again. I have never, EVER, doubted Nadal's abilities on court. He's a perfect athlete and is simply a beast. The fact I can't respect him has got nothing to do with it. His mental strength, physical strength, and footwork are second to none.
 

Justin Side

Hall of Fame
yeah, i checked the stats and given that nadal won 3 tiebreaks in the us open and lost none, he's now actually fifth in the list. not bad at all...
i'll try to keep the stats updated regularly for the top 10 at least.

Nadal has had a great year in tiebreakers.

Entire career up to 2009: 97-69 in tiebreakers for about a 58% winning percentage.
2010: 16-6 in tiebreakers for about a 73% winning percentage.
 

Justin Side

Hall of Fame
W L %
1 Federer 282 146 65,89%
2 Djokovic 107 58 64,85%
3 Roddick 277 163 62,95%
4 isner 79 47 62,70%
5 Nadal 113 75 60,11%

Surprised how clutch Djoker's career numbers are. Not only the great tiebreak record, but he's also great in 5 set matches.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
It's wierd how you're arguing for Nadal while I'm arguing against him, but I have to say that Baghy, Gonzalez and Tsonga don't have the biggest serves, and they should definitely not be ahead of Nadal.

tsonga doesn't have a big serve ????? really ???????
 

Spider

Hall of Fame
Irrelevant stat. I mean some players are great at breaking serves because their return of serve is brilliant, therefore, they don't get pushed to a tie break like maybe a Federer or someone else. This stat is irrelevant in my opinion.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Irrelevant stat. I mean some players are great at breaking serves because their return of serve is brilliant, therefore, they don't get pushed to a tie break like maybe a Federer or someone else. This stat is irrelevant in my opinion.

what does that have to do with their success/failure in tie-breaks ????
 

iriraz

Hall of Fame
Surprised that Karlovic has such an average tiebreak record considering he plays so many and with his serve
 

powerangle

Legend
Surprised that Karlovic has such an average tiebreak record considering he plays so many and with his serve

He doesn't have much of a game besides his serve...hard to get the mini-break if he can't get many balls in play. :)

At least Roddick retrieves and pushes balls back so the lower-ranked players have a chance to self-capitulate. :)
 

snowwhite

Professional
I'd always hated the tie-breaks, specially in grand slams finals, they are a matter of lottery, u never know what ur gonna get, yes they have a little bit of service advantage and a lesser mental factor, but they are a huge matter of luck, it's where the possibility of winning/losing is 50/50 no matter what ur rank is. the list can really tell.
 

snowwhite

Professional
and for those who refer the rankin to mental strength, that's really stupid...
a player like Nadal who won a alot of slams saving a lot of break points and play against rain delayed, etc... for God sake...
I'm sorry but but Federer and Nadal are beyond all the rest in the mental strength issue.
 

P_Agony

Banned
I'd always hated the tie-breaks, specially in grand slams finals, they are a matter of lottery, u never know what ur gonna get, yes they have a little bit of service advantage and a lesser mental factor, but they are a huge matter of luck, it's where the possibility of winning/losing is 50/50 no matter what ur rank is. the list can really tell.

The service atvantage IS the mental factor. Doens't matter how good you serve is, when you can't be clutch in TBs, and you lose the set and the match because of it, its pretty much worthless. Look at Fed's TB against Sod in the FO final of last year. Fed was su clutch he didn't even let Robing get a look at the ball. He hit 4 aces in a row. Karlovic has low TB stats (relative) because:

1) He plays so many of them so people know what to expect.
2) Karlovic's serve isn't as clutch as most people think. Its amazing, brilliant, fast anc accurate consistently, but he fails when it matter most.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
The service atvantage IS the mental factor. Doens't matter how good you serve is, when you can't be clutch in TBs, and you lose the set and the match because of it, its pretty much worthless. Look at Fed's TB against Sod in the FO final of last year. Fed was su clutch he didn't even let Robing get a look at the ball. He hit 4 aces in a row. Karlovic has low TB stats (relative) because:

1) He plays so many of them so people know what to expect.
2) Karlovic's serve isn't as clutch as most people think. Its amazing, brilliant, fast anc accurate consistently, but he fails when it matter most.

karlovic having a medicore tie-break record has nothing to do with clutchness. it has everything to with his return, which sucks - all the opponent has to do on many occasions is get one mini-break ( somehow get one return back or have a swing and hope it lands in )
 

nfor304

Banned
weird a player like hewitt who i consider to be extremely strong mentally is poor here, but someone like baghdatis who i think of as a bit of a head case is much higher than most would expect
 

raven247

New User
Yeah but not for long - you can onlybride the lucky train for a certain amount of time until reality catches up with you. frankly baggy didn't win so many this sunmer as his opponents lost - you know what I mean.
 

raven247

New User
Yeah but not for long - you can only ride the lucky train for a certain amount of time until reality catches up with you. frankly baggy didn't win so many this sunmer as his opponents lost - you know what I mean.
 
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