The finger lady was like damn you DjokovicThis picture tells a story. Federer is going down. The finger ladies know it. All the smug wiped off their faces. The crowd know it. Look at their expressions. That's what Novak had to endure for 5 hours. Wimbledon's darkest day. The British reputation for fair play shredded.
She looks like she is chewing a wasp.
This picture tells a story. Federer is going down. The finger ladies know it. All the smug wiped off their faces. The crowd know it. Look at their expressions. That's what Novak had to endure for 5 hours. Wimbledon's darkest day. The British reputation for fair play shredded.
The one that got away!!This lady became an icon in the tennis fan circles at the 40-15 moment
Eloquently said - great post. You put into words better than anyone else I've seen what makes that image so memorable
Good point. I only know the image of Federer that he allows the public to see.
He is very carefully managed, including by his wife. There is nothing wrong with that, but what we see and hear is very carefully controlled. Nadal is by nature careful. He says nothing controversial. Novak, for better or worse, seems to be more candid.
Based on what Fed used to say and do before he was big (when presumably he didn't need to carefully control his image), I'm pretty sure his actual personality off the court is just as PR-friendly as we see on camera.
When he was still winning big he always seemed relaxed and friendly when interviewed. But that's still a public mask. He could be a lot like that in private, but maybe not.
This picture tells a story. Federer is going down. The finger ladies know it. All the smug wiped off their faces. The crowd know it. Look at their expressions. That's what Novak had to endure for 5 hours. Wimbledon's darkest day. The British reputation for fair play shredded.
I don't trust that guy because he's talking about an almost 40 year old father of children and comparing him to what he was like as a young guy. Don't know how old you are, but at 40 I was not much like the person I was at 20.
Out of interest, where did you get those pics?
But isn’t that often rather due to being being tired of having stress with the surroundings who have certain expectations for behaviour/style at a certain age?
That may be what you are talking about. I'm talking about flat out saying and doing stupid things at 20. Thinking I knew things but didn't. Blowing up over small things, not listening well and often being a pure jackass because I thought I knew more than I did. And at 20 I was mostly only thinking about myself. When you have kids you will sacrifice almost anything to make sure they are OK.
I'm way more rebellious now at nearly age 73. I just don't talk about it except with people who are interested.
I have not worn a suit for decades. I never wear anything other than a light shirt, jeans or shorts and running shoes, when I'm not barefoot.
I don't know, although he seems pretty low key off a tennis court. In many ways he has almost seemed a bit nerdy when not playing tennis. I rather like that about him.
Are you trying to say there are more important things in life than winning tennis tournaments?!?
20 and 40 for me is totally different. I mean, the average 20y old thinks a delayed plane or a missed party is the end of the world. I get embarrassed thinking about what kind of small things could blow me up at 20. Roger is a smart man, he knows how lucky he is in life compared to 99.99% of the worlds population.
Yup.
Now try to teach that to fans who have a meltdown if their heroes don't win a final!Yeah, maybe I cannot talk in general here, because I never was a mainstream guy and parties never played a role in my life. I was never disappointed when I missed just “taking part” somewhere.
That's probably true... But, you and me don't know how his professional life is important for him... I am sure that he is extremely competitive, same as Novak and Rafa. Without that he wouldn't be so successful... Maybe, if he finishes 3rd, that will be very devastating for him (not suicide mode). He has all money he needs, he has 4 beautiful children, but is that enought for him? I mean, there are people who's most important thing in the world is success at work (I have colleagues of this kind)...
Yeah, if you’re probably talking to haters like you who probably started watching tennis from 2008.
I doubt very much Roger is as childish as some of the posters on this forum.
You compare yourself to self equals...
Well it probably make some posters here glad to think Roger is crying himself to sleep every night. I doubt he does, but if the thought helps someone, thats fine with me. I think its a little bit (or more) childish, but ok
exactly. Absolute bull that he got over that loss in an hour. It wasn't just an ordinary loss for so many reasons. Unless he is inhuman, it would have stung for a long time.
Why should I be glad if he is unhappy? I just pointed that money and popularity doesn't garant happiness... No way, rich and popular are as unhappy and depressed as rest of us, common people...Well it probably make some posters here glad to think Roger is crying himself to sleep every night. I doubt he does, but if the thought helps someone, thats fine with me. I think its a little bit (or more) childish, but ok
If you think Roger is lying thats ok, but its just speculation. Anyway - Djokovic hadnt won his second slam when Federer had already beaten Sampras record, so i doubt very much Djokovic was in Rogers mind back in the early 2000s when he set his goals. I do think though, as with Sampras, Roger didnt think two players would already tie him, but thats part of the game
Didnt mean you
. I see your point, and people are different. A lot also has to do with age i think. Im 3 years older than Fed, and im a different person now than when i was 20. When youre young you think a delayed plane or a missed party is the end of the world. When you get older and have kids you grow up and see whats important in life; good health, happy healthy kids etc. I mean, its just tennis, it isnt cancer, war or starving.
Agreed. Great post. It can sting, but if it devastates him (I don't think it does) I seriously think he should seek some help.Didnt mean you
As for being a Fed-fan im grateful for all the good moments. I like tennis and all this Fedalovic stuff is part of the fun. If Djokovic getting to 21 REALLY makes you lose your sleep you should either skip watching tennis or travel around the world to see what real problems are.
As for Fed i just have to trust what he says, if he is lying i feel sorry for him, but I dont see the point in speculating. Its a rather foolish thing imo to speculate in if and how much it bothers Fed if Djokovic surpasses him. I mean, who cares what Fed is feeling about it?
There is absolutely no chance Federer was beating Nadal in the final if he had managed to get there. He was Rafa's whipping boy in the slams at that point.
Yeah one watch of any his matches this year confirms he’s not enjoying it out there. He only carries on to try salvage one last hurrah to help erase the bitter memories of 40-15 . Probably wakes up screaming “arrgghhhhhh” in the middle of the night, poor guy.
It is not an hour /day but like whenever he is remind of that loss it takes 1 hour to come out of that loss.It seems Federer is at 'Acceptance' stage, but it could be just very smartly masked 'Depression' stage.
Really hard to believe.
It was not just an usual easy-to-forget defeat like Wimbledon 2015 or US Open 2015.
Wimbledon 2019 was The Defeat.
Probably an hour per day is closer to the truth.
