Stop dissing Rafa on grass

captainbryce

Hall of Fame
It's true that Nadal had strong prime results everywhere bar indoors. His out-of-prime results are remarkably poor, though. You'd think if he's such an unparallelled champion, he should have found a way to retain competitiveness when handicapped.
Indoors are usually faster surfaces with a lower bounce. Generally his success is largely dependent on having a slower surface with a higher bounce, or having a relatively weak draw, or it being one of the few times during the year he is not injured. All three of those things happening for him is like catching lightening in a bottle.

The one time he did exceptionally well on a fast surface was at the 2010 US Open where he was serving over 130 miles per hour. But the US Open is the one slam where the speed changes damn near every year. The Australian Open has been like molasses since 2008 (the year Djokovic started winning it), and Wimbledon has been slowed since 2002. Andre Agassi is really the only baseliner that has ever won Wimbledon when it actually played like fast, low bouncing grass. Winning a career grand slam isn't the feat that it used to be since all the surfaces are basically homogenous now.

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TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
Rafa was injured during that match and then missed the 2012 USO and 2013 AO. Remember? :rolleyes:
Give over. Rafa was hitting near 130mph serves and running around like a rabbit on speed. He was in fine form for that match, Rosol just beasted beyond belief. Then came the endless sabbatical extensions for his career threatening knee injuries we've come to know and love, with a timely return at a clay tournament. Then he proceeded to win pretty much every hardcourt tournament he entered including a summer slam. A most logical continuation.
 

nadalfan2013

Professional
Give over. Rafa was hitting near 130mph serves and running around like a rabbit on speed. He was in fine form for that match, Rosol just beasted beyond belief. Then came the endless sabbatical extensions for his career threatening knee injuries we've come to know and love, with a timely return at a clay tournament. Then he proceeded to win pretty much every hardcourt tournament he entered including a summer slam. A most logical continuation.

So many false statements in your post caused by a lot of butthurt. It's so sad that you hate Rafa so much even accusing him of faking injuries that caused him to leave the sport for months. Maybe one day you will need to leave your job due to bad moments but people will accuse you of faking. Then you will think about what you are doing right now and perhaps finally learn to have more class, respect and of course humbleness.
 

Luckydog

Professional
Why? We saw how a somewhat injured Federer performed in 2013 (1 atp 250 title) after winning a slam in 2012. Rafa's injuries have been far more serious forcing him to miss many tournaments. You may argue that Federer was older in 2013 but Rafa started winning slams earlier. Federer slam years (2003-2012) and Rafa (2005-2014). That makes Federer's 2013 equivalent/comparable to Rafa's 2015. Don't underestimate injuries. :rolleyes:
Well ,well ,well ,continue blaming injury,then you will feel better. But firstly you should consider who caused his injury,the damned courts or himself ?
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
So many false statements in your post caused by a lot of butthurt. It's so sad that you hate Rafa so much even accusing him of faking injuries that caused him to leave the sport for months. Maybe one day you will need to leave your job due to bad moments but people will accuse you of faking. Then you will think about what you are doing right now and perhaps finally learn to have more class, respect and of course humbleness.

Yep, just chalk it up to 'butthurt'. A simple and convenient brick wall.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Nadal has a very strong record on grass. No two ways about it. Not many can say they won 2 Wimbledon's and had 3 runner-ups.

No-one can diss Rafa's record on grass. What tends to be dissed is his disappointing performance on that surface since his last Wimbledon final in 2011. Since then, he has only made one final on grass: 2015 Stuttgart (which he won).
 

kingcheetah

Hall of Fame
If Nadal was really such a talent on grass, he'd have made the second week of Wimbledon at some point in the last 5 years...
 

Zebrev

Hall of Fame
I think Rafa just got overshadowed by a better grass court player. Crazy to think that Fed and Rafa only played each other 3 times at Wimby.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Why do you say that? 3 times throughout a career long rivalry is not a lot. They played at French Garros much many times.
How many other players have competed against one another more frequently at Wimbledon? Three times is a decent amount IMO.
 
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