The Kyrgios Script

As we all know the "Serena Script" is that she's the greatest fe-male player ever to live/that will ever live. Right. If I read it/hear it enough, I'll eventually believe it. Uh-huh. But I UNDERSTAND that lie.

The new lie I keep hearing over and over, I don't understand: just WHY is Nick Kyrgios "good for the game"? He's a very good player. He hits the ball very hard. He has great potential to win a slam, maybe several. But, so do several other young players: Coric, Zverev, Rublev to name three. Not once have I heard anyone say they're "good for the game". They haven't gotten into trouble like Kyrgios, but, I don't get the feeling they'd get the "lip service" Kyrgios gets, either.

Watching him tonite, and the last couple of times, he seems a little mentally unbalanced. That's no sin. Even talented athletes can be mentally ill, but that doesn't mean they're "good for the game" either. He also looks kind of "skeevy". Like a porn actor with jail tats and the clap. That's not very "good for the game" either, in my opinion.

Does McEnroe, Gilbert, Evert, et al, think he'll attract "the kids" to play tennis, because he's so cool/fly/bitchin/insert adjective...? I really don't see "the kids" trying to emulate him, especially. Do you?
 

Inanimate_object

Hall of Fame
One of the most annoying things here is when people liberally and stupidly throw out terms such "mental illness" as if it's like air. No, he's not "mentally ill", and if he were, you would be the last person in any position to make such a diagnosis. How on earth do you mean to evaluate his mental health from your television screen? It's offensive and distasteful to refer to a player as mentally ill, who has not been diagnosed as such. Childish stuff akin to middle schoolers calling each other gay.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
As we all know the "Serena Script" is that she's the greatest fe-male player ever to live/that will ever live. Right. If I read it/hear it enough, I'll eventually believe it. Uh-huh. But I UNDERSTAND that lie.

The new lie I keep hearing over and over, I don't understand: just WHY is Nick Kyrgios "good for the game"? He's a very good player. He hits the ball very hard. He has great potential to win a slam, maybe several. But, so do several other young players: Coric, Zverev, Rublev to name three. Not once have I heard anyone say they're "good for the game". They haven't gotten into trouble like Kyrgios, but, I don't get the feeling they'd get the "lip service" Kyrgios gets, either.

Watching him tonite, and the last couple of times, he seems a little mentally unbalanced. That's no sin. Even talented athletes can be mentally ill, but that doesn't mean they're "good for the game" either. He also looks kind of "skeevy". Like a porn actor with jail tats and the clap. That's not very "good for the game" either, in my opinion.

Does McEnroe, Gilbert, Evert, et al, think he'll attract "the kids" to play tennis, because he's so cool/fly/bitchin/insert adjective...? I really don't see "the kids" trying to emulate him, especially. Do you?
I think he is great for kids. there are lots of kids who have Mohawk haircuts and they may all start playing tennis. maybe all the inner city youth gangs will take up tennis now and give up all the bad things that they do ? isn't that a good thing ?
 

rossi46

Professional
One of the most annoying things here is when people liberally and stupidly throw out terms such "mental illness" as if it's like air. No, he's not "mentally ill", and if he were, you would be the last person in any position to make such a diagnosis. How on earth do you mean to evaluate his mental health from your television screen? It's offensive and distasteful to refer to a player as mentally ill, who has not been diagnosed as such. Childish stuff akin to middle schoolers calling each other gay.

Agreed, "mentally unbalanced" can also have a real medical meaning. Very insensitive.
 
One of the most annoying things here is when people liberally and stupidly throw out terms such "mental illness" as if it's like air. No, he's not "mentally ill", and if he were, you would be the last person in any position to make such a diagnosis. How on earth do you mean to evaluate his mental health from your television screen? It's offensive and distasteful to refer to a player as mentally ill, who has not been diagnosed as such. Childish stuff akin to middle schoolers calling each other gay.
I think the lady doth protest too much, lil' buddy. And I probably have as much medical training as YOU, doctor. Like I stated, being metally ill isn't a crime or as nasty as you seem to think it is. Athletes are people too. People get sick. No biggie. But, if you think his fidgeting, argumentativeness, picking fights with spectators, etc., is normal, you need to talk to someone. My hand is available. ;9)B
 

Kalin

Legend
Kyrgios is the wet dream of modern mass media - multiracial, opinionated, individualistic and now, as we learn, the best of all- gay!

Zverev, Rublev... bleh... Russian names. We all know that Russians only think about taking over the world in their bear costumes while swilling vodka and waving Putin portraits. Who wants that happening?! It's so much better when a gay mohawked ghetto wannabe politely tells you your GF is a ****.

Just kidding... partially. Kyrgios can indeed appeal to a very wide audience if he tones down the fake 'street' act and wins a few big tournaments. I actually root for the guy.
 

big ted

Legend
i saw the murray match, personally he reminds me of a monfils, tsonga, tomic, etc... talented, entertaining, and capable of a big win but doesnt seem to have a champions mentality. more of a crowd shot pleaser than a winner imo... if given the choice of either forcing an error and winning the point or hitting a between the legs shot and losing the point he would probably choose the latter...
 

Vanhool

Hall of Fame
Tonight I was watching the local news, where they almost NEVER cover tennis, and they ended their sports coverage with Kyrgios. Showed his tweener followed by a winner, accidental racquet throw, intentional racquet throw, and changeover nap. Sportscaster, a young guy, told viewers and colleagues that if they haven't watched him yet, they should because he's fun to watch. The news crew were all chuckling and enjoying the show. It made tennis look fun. I think that's good for tennis, if you want more people watching and playing.
 
He's good because he's brash and it is reflected in his game which isnt purely percentage based... The attitude reminds me a lot of the early days of Agassi and his unpredictability is good. Does he need to stop flailing before her has any real impact, yes. But he's got a year or two to achieve that. He needs a good coach who can focus him. People eat up the bad boy gets his act together thing... especially when the player is a major shotmaker. The general public only sees the highlight real.

I do think these outbursts are part of the marketing plan...
 

Booger

Hall of Fame
Does McEnroe, Gilbert, Evert, et al, think he'll attract "the kids" to play tennis, because he's so cool/fly/bitchin/insert adjective...? I really don't see "the kids" trying to emulate him, especially. Do you?

He is popular with the kids. Why is that so hard to believe? You think they'd rather be mindless ball bashers like Djokovic or Murray?
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

Guest
People that matter like winners. Lazy, distracted show ponies are a dime a dozen in the real world. He needs to change his focus and see if he can start putting some results on the table.

Like Courier said during his commentary, it takes great courage to commit your focus to results, because you risk failure.

It's much easier to be a showman. You can gain publicity even if you lose matches.
 

Kalin

Legend
He's good because he's brash and it is reflected in his game which isnt purely percentage based... The attitude reminds me a lot of the early days of Agassi and his unpredictability is good...

Let's see if he can eventually turn brashness into greatness as Andre did. Haven't seen enough of Kyrgios to know if he has the monster weapons that Andre had, though. Agassi had one of the best FH-BH combos in history and all hit on the rise including the punishing ROS. I know Kyrgios has the big serve; don't know much about the rest of his game.
 
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Deleted member 733170

Guest
Let's be honest, there is a sort of morbid curiosity factor about watching this narcissistic, over indulged little punk strut out around. What's he going to do next?
In much the same way people stop and gawp at motorway accidents. Kyrgios has this unpleasant ability to bring out the worst in all of us. So despite the fact that Krygios may be temporarily increasing the public interest of tennis, I don't equate that with being good for the game.

What really matters for the game are great and compelling rivalries. There is still a chance that Krygios gets his act together and becomes a part of one of those.
 

SQA333

Hall of Fame
I think he is great for kids. there are lots of kids who have Mohawk haircuts and they may all start playing tennis. maybe all the inner city youth gangs will take up tennis now and give up all the bad things that they do ? isn't that a good thing ?
Or they could bring the drugs to the tennis clubs [emoji6]
 

Slice'n'dice

Hall of Fame
He is popular with the kids. Why is that so hard to believe? You think they'd rather be mindless ball bashers like Djokovic or Murray?

Mindless ball basher? Doesn't quite fit. Nothing mindless about the way those two play, like them or not mindless ball basher doesn't apply, would say that's a closer approximation of Berdych but I still don't think it really fits.

He's a wannabe tough guy ... a gangsta.
What he really is, is a jerk.
One can only hope he grows out of it.

Yeah he is, I do think people go a bit over the top though. He's been thrust into the spotlight because he was really emotionally mature enough so hasn't been behaving well. Think he'll improve though he is still very young.

Or they could bring the drugs to the tennis clubs [emoji6]

Now that's a winning combination.
 
He's good because bad is good.
I think there's def something to your statement, Rubens. I remember years ago watching a "wives" reality show Bravo specializes in. It was the NY "wives", which is fitting now. And while watching it I remember feeling embarrassed for them because they were so superficial & nasty, among other things, right there on TV in front of millions of witnesses. I also felt that way watching the Paris Hilton lives on a farm show, too. And then afterwards going onto forums like IMDB, and to my surprise they weren't castigated for being evil pieces of rich trash, but people actually liked them. Many people think they're great, and want to be like them and live their lives like them...!!!

And that's exactly why I asked that topic question. I don't really see young people wanting to emulate him & being drawn to tennis because of him, because his dyed hair is so yesterday (what's old is new?!), and he's obviously trash, who comes from trash, whether his family has money or not. If I were 16 again, I know I wouldn't be into him, but I can't really go by my taste. These tv puppetheads seem to think he'll be a huge draw & the savior of the game(?), God help us all.

I have to remember it's UpsideDown-Backwards Land now, where bad is good, good is maligned, etc. I hope I never get used to that.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Tonight I was watching the local news, where they almost NEVER cover tennis, and they ended their sports coverage with Kyrgios. Showed his tweener followed by a winner, accidental racquet throw, intentional racquet throw, and changeover nap. Sportscaster, a young guy, told viewers and colleagues that if they haven't watched him yet, they should because he's fun to watch. The news crew were all chuckling and enjoying the show. It made tennis look fun. I think that's good for tennis, if you want more people watching and playing.

fun to watch? tweener followed by a winner, sure. fh winners from impossible areas of the court, sure. i, for one, don't think racquet throws and changeover naps are fun.
 

Vanhool

Hall of Fame
fun to watch? tweener followed by a winner, sure. fh winners from impossible areas of the court, sure. i, for one, don't think racquet throws and changeover naps are fun.
Sure, but it made a pretty colorful highlight reel. Perhaps attractive to people that don't usually watch tennis. I recorded a different station's newscast that night (monitoring a weather situation), and they also covered him. General gist was "he is talented but a bit of a trainwreck, and who doesn't like to watch a trainwreck?". Last night the news showed USO again, and it was Djoker dancing with the errant fan. Today's coverage is the drone crash. Sad that it takes stupid stuff like this to get the USO on TV, but any publicity is better than none, imo.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
The new lie I keep hearing over and over, I don't understand: just WHY is Nick Kyrgios "good for the game"? He's a very good player. He hits the ball very hard. He has great potential to win a slam, maybe several. But, so do several other young players: Coric, Zverev, Rublev to name three. Not once have I heard anyone say they're "good for the game". They haven't gotten into trouble like Kyrgios, but, I don't get the feeling they'd get the "lip service" Kyrgios gets, either.

Kyrgios is good for the game because people like you write about him. People with little interest and knowledge of the sport know of him. He is a huge advertising boon for tennis. Nothing he does is especially bad compared to other sports stars and yet be gets all this attention for trivial actions. Wearing bright clothes, paint your hair multi colour, conversing with the umpire and directly to his opponent, trivial sledging is not extremely bad and yet he generates a lot of conversation. Hence he's good for the sport. If you really don't like him, don't advertise him on these sites and start posting about Coric, Zverev or Rublev instead.
 
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