jangotango
Semi-Pro
I have a half set of Klip Legend 17 (coated) sitting around. Should I put BHS7T in the mains or crosses? I was thinking 54 pounds on the Poly and 55 with prestretch on the gut...
Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour
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Injured Again
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I did this comparson a few months back. S7T is more powerful, less crisp, slightly higher launch angle, slightly better spin capability, better tension maintenance, and slightly worse control.
i wouldnt hybrid BHS7T and gut together...kind of a waste because your gut wont last that long. I like using signum pro poly plasma as my go to cross string and use gut mains or s7T mains. Having that smooth round poly as your cross allows the mains less friction and more snapback. The surface of synthetic/natural gut or multi all wear out so quickly that the string bed locks up quite quickly and is an immense pain to deal with when strings need to be straightened out after every rally.
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tpro2000
Rookie
It's interesting. I found the TB to grab a little more (maybe because it's fresh), but it's noticeably firmer, and actually heavier/denser than the S7T which was all around more comfortable with as much spin.
Still liking the S7T over most else I've playing with
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Injured Again
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Bite on the ball between the two is pretty close, and it's hard to know how much I subconsciously change my swing when I know I'm using a string with certain characteristics. I feel like I get about an extra two feet of depth off a rally groundstroke with S7T versus a thin gauge Tour Bite (from launch angle plus extra ball speed) so it's possible I take a slightly more upward path with a bit more closed racquet face trying to hit heavier top with the S7T and that's why I feel it grabs the ball a bit better.
But I agree with you in that I haven't found another string I like more than S7T.
Holdfast44ID
Semi-Pro
On TW and the string packaging, Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour 17g is listed at 1.25 mm. 1.25mm is considered 16L by other string vendors. TBHS7T looks more like 1.20mm to me. By comparison, ALU Power Rough 16L is 1.25mm but looks thicker. Anyone else notice?
cameron9713
New User
For anyone wanting to give this string a try I recommend stringing it lower than you normally do. I have strung this at a few different tensions and I definitely like it at lower tensions. I initially tried 52lbs and have stepped it down to 47lbs and now 45lbs. At 45lbs I felt like it pocketed the ball much more, provided more snap back/pop, and was much more comfortable. Very impressive string at great price!!! Thanks Tourna!!!
joaovitorss
New User
Nice! Which racquet?
cameron9713
New User
Yonex Ezone DR 98
Injured Again
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The 17 gauge is definitely thinner than 1.25 but it lasts as long as Tour Bite in that diameter. It seems resistant to notching against itself and playability doesn't drop off much even after notching starts. When I compared the string, it was against others of the same physical size, no matter what gauge or diameter the manufacturer claimed.
Injured Again
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S7T is nice in that you can go low in tension and it still firms up when you swing hard at the ball. For me personally, I try to use the lowest tension that will still give me adequate firmness on my hardest controlled swings and S7T gives me about a 6-7 pound stringing tension window where I have that control yet the string is not harsh for other shots. That big tension window allows me to make fine tuning adjustments to alter launch angle and, to a lesser extent, ballspeed off the strings without really altering the basic playing characteristics of the string. Combined with the really good tension maintenance and it gives a long lasting and consistent response. Great string!
DonPepe
Rookie
any thoughts on this string silver 7 performance versus Soderling Lyon 17 ? I happen to be testing both and they feel similar at tension 50 to 52. one is shaped, one is smooth, round (RS Lyon) ... they both feel like Luxilon Alu Power , Solinco Tour bite,
RS Lyon is 4$ more at 13.95$
Its only been a 3 hours but though I like both, I do have a touch of elbow tendonitis.
RS Lyon is 4$ more at 13.95$
Its only been a 3 hours but though I like both, I do have a touch of elbow tendonitis.
tpro2000
Rookie
I'm truly loving S7T. In my one frame it's been over 2wks now, probably only 5 actual sets, but tons of hitting/teaching. It's notched pretty well thru, the edges have worn down a bit which is to be expected, but not as much as some I've tried.
Got some Diadem Solstice Power 1.25 and WeissCannon Rock and Roll hybrid to compare for fun
Got some Diadem Solstice Power 1.25 and WeissCannon Rock and Roll hybrid to compare for fun
FIRETennis
Professional
TW reports tension loss way higher on the RS Lyon vs. the S7T.
Do you check the tension drop using RacquetTune or so to see how they compare in real life hitting?
Christoforos Giatzakis
Rookie
For those that have used other poly strings along or before bhs7t could you comment on comfort? For example how does it compare to alu 1.25 or hyperg 1.20 or others?
I seem to be one of the only ones here, but I found tourna 7 silver tour to be stiff, harsh and boardy. Strung at 21/20kgs in my blade v7. I really didnt like it. I much prefer lynx or ice code in my blade.
my coach wanted his PS97strung with this string at 23,5/22,5 kilos and loved it.
my coach wanted his PS97strung with this string at 23,5/22,5 kilos and loved it.
Lefty5
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That's over 50 lbs and I never like any polys over 47, much less 50. However like other poster's said, you can safely lower this one and not lose the best qualities of the string. With the solid tension maintenance, the lower tension won't continue to drop dramatically into never never land.... Give it another shot in the mid 40's.
mscream
Professional
Tried S7T yesterday in an DR98 at 48/46 for half an hour. My initial impression is positive - control was good, response predictable, spin more than adequate. In my racquet it did not feel boardy or harsh. However, it's a very crisp string and the dwell time/deflection is rather low. If that is desirable or not is completely subjective though. Personally I gravitate towards strings where the ball stays longer in the string bed. So far I would say that S7T is a quality string that should shine at low(er) tensions in particular, and in more flexy racquets, or even better in a low RA racquet combined with a low tension 
tpro2000
Rookie
What frame? I know many strings feel differently in different frames. I love it at 45/42 in my Angells, and am considering going to 43/40 in my Gravity MP for fun
I tried it at 21/20 kg which is 46 lbs, couldnt care for it in the blade. Gave me no pocketing. Might try at 20/19 in my clash, or even lower.
Injured Again
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Have mostly compared S7T to Hyper-G recently. In my opinion, these are two very different feeling and behaving strings, even if their playing characteristics aren't all that different.
What it feels like is that S7T is more elastic at first, then becomes stiff as the impact stretches the string past that initial more elastic zone. The elasticity is what feels like makes S7T more powerful, and the stiffening up gives it the crisp response.
Hyper-G on the other hand, feels more linear throughout the range of impacts, and it feels like it internally dampens vibrations more. So it is not as powerful because overall because there's less elasticity, and to me this is especially noticeable on volleys where there feels like more of a difference in ball speed than at any other time. The only other time when I notice a difference is when trying to hit loopy shots with maximum spin. They both grip the ball well but I get noticeably more ball speed with S7T.
So back to your original question about comfort - they both are no worse than average in comfort for a poly. I think if you swing with moderate swing speeds, the Hyper-G will generate a bit less impact shock, and less stringbed vibration on top of it which makes it feel muted and kind of cushy. If you frequently swing with high racquet head speeds, the way that S7T firms up and gives that crisp feeling also may make the impact shock greater.
And this is comparing the 17 gauge version of S7T versus Hyper-G. I've never used the 16 gauge version of S7T, which tested way stiffer than I would have expected it to.
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I had an extended demo of the v7 Blade 98 in both 16X19 and 18X20 and with the 17 gauge S7T found 46 pounds to be right in that sweet spot of impact feel for me in the 16X19. 46 pounds in the 18X20 was a bit tighter than I prefer. Both had excellent pocketing feel but in the 18X20, mishits were just a bit too jarring. Knowing how S7T maintains tension well and works well over a wide range of tensions, I'd probably start at 44 pounds in the 16X19 and 42 pounds in the 18X20 if I had it to do over again.
I'm surprised that at 21/20 kg, you felt it to be so stiff. Obvious questions would be was the stringer calibrated, was there prestretch on the strings, and was this the 16 or 17 gauge version of S7T?
Thanks! I am gonna give it a go at a much lower tension and see how that goes!
Holdfast44ID
Semi-Pro
I hit about five hours with S7T 17g at 44 lbs. in a full bed on my Blade v7 98 16x19. The string really settled in after two hours of hitting. Great slice and topspin. Pretty easy to hit winners with this. I am wondering what the 16g version feels like? To answer your question, I recently tried Hyper G 16L (1.25) which is thicker than S7T 1.25. Hyper G feels lower-powered and kind of harsh on the arm at the same low tension & in a full bed. It has more of a plasticky feel. I don't like it. ALU 1.25 also seems thicker than S7T 1.25. I only recently used it for a main with X-Perience in the crosses. ALU felt pretty good (controlled power, directional control, decent spin). ST7 has a better bite and I feel I can flick short/angled, dipping crosscourt spin shots or flatten out shots for winners down the line or crosscourt (think hard and low trajectory but with spin to keep it in). I do want to try the 16g version of S7T to see which gauge I prefer. I also have a lot of string. I'm leaning to ST7 as my go-to string. I have so much string... lol
FIRETennis
Professional
My stringer ran out of S7T and while my TW order is being shipped, I had to resort to going to back to a reel of Hyper-G and wow, I'm shocked how much better the Tourna S7T is.
I've used Hyper-G for a year+ plus I thought it was great. Now I find it stiffer, "boardy", plasticky similar to to the other Taiwanese strings ... MSV/Volkl. The crispness and spin are significantly less. Second serves go slightly longer and I am missing that fast dip that I only seem to get with ALU Power and Tourna. Very odd as I don't think I'm swinging any differently. I'm thinking to try Tourna Big Hitter Black until FedEx arrives...
PS. Maybe an optical illusion but the 16L (1.25) Hyper-G does look thicker than the Tourna 17 (1.23!?). Is this effect due to the heptagonal shape of the S7T or do we like it because it's actually 1.20 gauge ?
PPS. After 2h of hitting again with Hyper-G, I feel slight arm discomfort which I did not get playing 5h+ tours with S7T. The Hyper-G also makes a strange buzzing in my racquet on impact. Hard to explain.
It's quite interesting to see several posters having similar experiences and feedback from the strings.
I know we all start to sounds like shills for Tourna but they really hit the bullseye with the engineering for this strings. The only thing that I've tried that's better than "S7T" is ALU Power. I've tried every version except for Feel which I fear would break too easily. If I would get free stringing I would definitely play with ALU but the 1.25 breaks at 6-8h so over a year that's just too much $ and trips to the stringer.
I've used Hyper-G for a year+ plus I thought it was great. Now I find it stiffer, "boardy", plasticky similar to to the other Taiwanese strings ... MSV/Volkl. The crispness and spin are significantly less. Second serves go slightly longer and I am missing that fast dip that I only seem to get with ALU Power and Tourna. Very odd as I don't think I'm swinging any differently. I'm thinking to try Tourna Big Hitter Black until FedEx arrives...
PS. Maybe an optical illusion but the 16L (1.25) Hyper-G does look thicker than the Tourna 17 (1.23!?). Is this effect due to the heptagonal shape of the S7T or do we like it because it's actually 1.20 gauge
?PPS. After 2h of hitting again with Hyper-G, I feel slight arm discomfort which I did not get playing 5h+ tours with S7T. The Hyper-G also makes a strange buzzing in my racquet on impact. Hard to explain.
It's quite interesting to see several posters having similar experiences and feedback from the strings.
I know we all start to sounds like shills for Tourna but they really hit the bullseye with the engineering for this strings. The only thing that I've tried that's better than "S7T" is ALU Power. I've tried every version except for Feel which I fear would break too easily. If I would get free stringing I would definitely play with ALU but the 1.25 breaks at 6-8h so over a year that's just too much $ and trips to the stringer.
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Injured Again
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My stringer ran out of S7T and while my TW order is being shipped, I had to resort to going to back to a reel of Hyper-G and wow, I'm shocked how much better the Tourna S7T is.
I've used Hyper-G for a year+ plus I thought it was great. Now I find it stiffer, "boardy", plasticky similar to to the other Taiwanese strings ... MSV/Volkl. The crispness and spin are significantly less. Second serves go slightly longer and I am missing that fast dip that I only seem to get with ALU Power and Tourna. Very odd as I don't think I'm swinging any differently. I'm thinking to try Tourna Big Hitter Black until FedEx arrives...
PS. Maybe an optical illusion but the 16L (1.25) Hyper-G does look thicker than the Tourna 17 (1.23!?). Is this effect due to the heptagonal shape of the S7T or do we like it because it's actually 1.20 gauge
PPS. After 2h of hitting again with Hyper-G, I feel slight arm discomfort which I did not get playing 5h+ tours with S7T. The Hyper-G also makes a strange buzzing in my racquet on impact. Hard to explain.
It's quite interesting to see several posters having similar experiences and feedback from the strings.
I know we all start to sounds like shills for Tourna but they really hit the bullseye with the engineering for this strings. The only thing that I've tried that's better than "S7T" is ALU Power. I've tried every version except for Feel which I fear would break too easily. If I would get free stringing I would definitely play with ALU but the 1.25 breaks at 6-8h so over a year that's just too much $ and trips to the stringer.
I was going to do the same as you and restring this next time around with either 1.20 Revolution or Hyper-G just to see if S7T really as good as I think it is or if I just happened to be in really good form when I first tried S7T and that colored my impressions of it. Now with your feedback, maybe I'll hold off a bit.
How long does S7T last for you? Despite it being thinner than advertised, the 17 gauge lasts as long and remains playable as long as any other poly string I've tried except for maybe Tour Bite, which kind of feels like a stiffer, harsher, and lower powered version of S7T.
tpro2000
Rookie
My sets are still going! I've only gotten about 5-6 sets of dubs in, but a lot of hitting in my clinics, feeding, etc, and it hasn't lost too much playability.
I already got my reel
FIRETennis
Professional
I used a micrometer today to measure BHB7 17, BHS7T 17 and Hyper-G 16L.
Tourna BHB7 17 = 1.24, 1.24, 1.24
Tourna BHS7T 17 = 1.25, 1.25, 1.25
Hyper-G 16L = 1.25, 1.3, 1.3
Strange result for Hyper-G. I guess the variation of the results from Hyper-G is due to its square shape depending if you grip it on the edge or the peaks. Couldn't really get a consistent reading for it.
With that being said, Tourna seems to be the correct gauge and Hyper-G is the one that is visually and physically larger.
S7T lasts about 8-10h for me. The most I got out of them was 11h before breakage. They feel great up until breakage and start moving around 8-9h mark.
tpro2000
Rookie
Interesting!
I've always found BHB7 17g to "feel" super thin for a 1.25, and even the 1.30 feels thin for that. Same with S7T, almost identically so that's cool to see the numbers!
Injured Again
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I was a playtester for the 17 gauge S7T and when i first got it, I shot a closeup of it with Tour Bite 1.20. That picture is in that post and shows that the 17 gauge S7T and 1.20 Tour Bite were physically the same size.
Interesting to read what my impressions were at that time and to see how they changed as I used S7T more.
Interesting to read what my impressions were at that time and to see how they changed as I used S7T more.
Holdfast44ID
Semi-Pro
As a follow-up to an earlier post. I tried lowering the crosses by two lbs/ on one of my identical frames. This felt better as it allowed for more snapback on the mains and softened the stringbed up a bit so I didn't feel I needed a "break-in" amount of time as I did when I strung the full bed at the same tension.
Injured Again
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So now you're at 44/42 in a v7 Blade 98 16X19? The S7T really does seem to work well over a tension range of at least 10% and that combined with it being the #1 tension maintenance poly makes it one of the most versatile strings.
Holdfast44ID
Semi-Pro
Yes. 44/42 felt good from the first swing. 44/44 needed more time to break in the stringbed (then again, it may have been due to my first time testing the string). I am also going to test S7T as a main and Signum Pro X-Perience as a cross. 44/42.
Holdfast44ID
Semi-Pro
If you have tried both 17g and 16g, any feedback on differences between the two? I have been liking the 17g.
FIRETennis
Professional
16g definitely feels stiffer but spin is similar.
parasailing
Legend
Keep the reviews coming. I currently using the Blade v7 18x20 and trying out different strings and came across this thread since some of the people here have tried Hyper G in both 16L and 17g and so far prefer the 17g version. I like the spin potential on Hyper G but looking for something that pockets the ball a little more with a bit more power while retaining the spin production.
Injured Again
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A few pages back in the v7 Blade thread, I posted some videos of me hitting against a ball machine with 17 gauge Silver 7 Tour strung at 46 pounds in both the 18X20 and 16X19. The S7T, in my opinion, works well in that frame. S7T has above average power and the crispness it has gives a more lively feeling to the denser 18X20 stringbed. Because of the good tension maintenance, I'd string it up a couple of pounds looser next time in the 18X20. 46 pounds in the 16X19 was just about perfect.
I've been hitting back to back with Hyper-G 1.20 and 17 gauge S7T in the same racquets at the same tension. They're really interchangeable strings except for a more significant impact feel difference but the response is so close to me that I can swap them without missing a beat. I'm sure a thin gauge of Hyper-G would work well in the Blade, and the colors match well.
I think tourna S7T 17g is 1.25 because it has spikes similar to diadem solstice power. I would say that S7T has the spin of solstice power and the comfort of volkl cyclone tour. I like using it in the mains with a soft smooth round string like SPPP in crosses (17L for best results) I actually started using pro’s pro power plus 17L and couldnt tell the difference. Also, I’ve found that the surface of the crosses on all my racquets get worn down and stop becoming slick after about 3-5 hours and snap back starts to suffer. Restringing the crosses rejuvenates the snap back and has been the only solution for me to get that fresh stringbed snap back feeling. Also, Ive been doing ~40/40 on my tension as it’s been getting cold in my area and it feels great!
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Injured Again
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Just wanted to say that I've converted a long time Luxilon Element user to S7T. He has two v6 Blade 18X16's and has gone through at least two or three reels of Element when I suggested he try the S7T.
His comments were that there might be a very slight amount more power from Element, and there's still something about the springy nature of Element that gives him confidence when picking up hard hit balls right off the bounce when he's on the baseline, but that everything else plays very similarly. I told him that for the cost difference, every time he buys a reel of S7T versus Element, he could buy a new tennis racquet.
I think the slight power deficit may be due to the S7T being a gram or two lighter than Element or possibly something fixable by a slight tension drop, and suggested he try the 16 gauge as well before committing to a reel. Next will be the couple of guys who play with Clash racquets and are currently using Alu Rough. I think that will be an easy sell for them also.
His comments were that there might be a very slight amount more power from Element, and there's still something about the springy nature of Element that gives him confidence when picking up hard hit balls right off the bounce when he's on the baseline, but that everything else plays very similarly. I told him that for the cost difference, every time he buys a reel of S7T versus Element, he could buy a new tennis racquet.
I think the slight power deficit may be due to the S7T being a gram or two lighter than Element or possibly something fixable by a slight tension drop, and suggested he try the 16 gauge as well before committing to a reel. Next will be the couple of guys who play with Clash racquets and are currently using Alu Rough. I think that will be an easy sell for them also.
Injured Again
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Kind of weird quoting myself but wanted to circle the wagons back around on this. I've played exclusively with Hyper-G the last couple of times out and now have about a dozen hours on the string. It's pretty close to notching through and breaking, but tension maintenance has been very good and playability feels relatively unchanged from when it was new. Hyper-G is a really good string for me. It has a slight bit less power than Silver 7 Tour but it also has a slight bit more grip, and that grip difference is greater the more skimming the shot it is. Comparing the 12 hour Hyper-G to the eight hour S7T, the launch angle on the Hyper-G may be just a hair higher as well.
Shows the value of doing back to back comparisons. I previously played with Hyper-G and S7T some time apart and my impressions were slightly different in comparing the two. I did end up choosing Revolution over Hyper-G before S7T won me over, so maybe it's time to try Revolution again.
Hyper-G 17g user here on blade v7 18x20. It is a really lovely string. It has an amazing depth control. Launch angle complements my 18x20 frame well (lifts it up a little bit). Spin is obviously great. Yes it may be not enough power for some.. and for me at times, especially on the blade v7 18x20 (which is not a power racquet). I think it will probably be a go-to string for me... if i could only get the same spin and slightly bump in power... 18g hyper-g is surprisingly good.. i tried it once maybe i should restring that one....
I am going to give BHS7T a shot next... maybe it finds that sweet spot. i know this is a BHS7T thread so I apologize but any suggestions on strings with similar spin, control but a little bit more pop as hyper-G? oh... to me it is not signum pro x-perience b/c i really don't think it's in the same "control" league at all in my experience (no pun intended)...
I was excited to test this string out, but after approximately 4 hours of play I had my mind made up that I didn’t like it mainly because of the feel and high trajectory.
Stung up the big hitter 7 tour 16g at 48/48 lbs in my 6.0 95. First impression was the high trajectory of the ball which I did not like. I did not care for the feel either. I was expecting a crisp string but it felt somewhat mushy and elastic.
Stung up the big hitter 7 tour 16g at 48/48 lbs in my 6.0 95. First impression was the high trajectory of the ball which I did not like. I did not care for the feel either. I was expecting a crisp string but it felt somewhat mushy and elastic.
yeah that's interesting... b/c usually silver strings are quite crisp in my experience...
Yeah mine also. I have played with the big hitter silver 16g many times and enjoy the feel, but the 7 tour played much different for me.
I don’t have a lot of experience with shaped polys so thought maybe that was contributing to the high trajectory I was getting so cut out the 7 tour and strung my racket with tour bite 15l mains with big hitter silver 16g crosses at 48/48 and the feeling was crisp with a favorable trajectory and more spin. I don’t see myself purchasing another pack of the 7 tour but if I did I would try stringing higher around 55 lbs. I was really impressed with the TW data on the excellent tension maintenance of this string, and this led me to testing them but the playability was not impressive with my limited testing. It seems like a lot of people enjoy this string and I am the outlier of the group.
I don’t have a lot of experience with shaped polys so thought maybe that was contributing to the high trajectory I was getting so cut out the 7 tour and strung my racket with tour bite 15l mains with big hitter silver 16g crosses at 48/48 and the feeling was crisp with a favorable trajectory and more spin. I don’t see myself purchasing another pack of the 7 tour but if I did I would try stringing higher around 55 lbs. I was really impressed with the TW data on the excellent tension maintenance of this string, and this led me to testing them but the playability was not impressive with my limited testing. It seems like a lot of people enjoy this string and I am the outlier of the group.
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