abmk
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repeated it in Cincy 2015 I think.
IIRC, Roddick won dubai 08 without dropping serve ..
What is an obsecure tennis fact/statistic that you think is impressive?
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repeated it in Cincy 2015 I think.
IIRC, Roddick won dubai 08 without dropping serve ..
Phoenix1983
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Guillermo Coria is the only man in tennis history who came within one point of winning a slam, yet never won one in his career.
vive le beau jeu !
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as regards the open era, 3 players are tied at 14 consecutive years reaching a slam QF:
connors [1972-1985], becker [1984-1997] and federer [2003-2016]
r2473
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If you total all the time Federer has taken between points in every match he has ever played in his career, it is less than the time Nadal has taken in a single match.
Rosewall was ranked #2 in 53 and 72, he won his first 2 slams at 18 his last 2 at 36-37 years old.
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That actually is impressive.
How do you not fluke at least one of them due to the other player being rubbish or something?
Comsidering only male players who at sometime in their careers were ranked #1, probably none dominated another as much as Edberg did Muster, winning all ten of their matches, including four on clay.
In 1999, the year in which he was briefly ranked #1, Carlos Moya, finished with a record of 38-24. no titles and no result in a major better than the 4th round. He began the year at #5 and finished at #23.
The only man to defeat Andre Agassi, Pete Sampras, Jim Courier, Roger Federer and Gustavo Kuerten (on clay) in the same year is Vince Spadea, who did it in 1999. He also beat Richard Krajicek and Yevgeny Kafelnikov (twice).
In 1999, the year in which he was briefly ranked #1, Carlos Moya, finished with a record of 38-24. no titles and no result in a major better than the 4th round. He began the year at #5 and finished at #23.
The only man to defeat Andre Agassi, Pete Sampras, Jim Courier, Roger Federer and Gustavo Kuerten (on clay) in the same year is Vince Spadea, who did it in 1999. He also beat Richard Krajicek and Yevgeny Kafelnikov (twice).
stringertom
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Another fedr record on the way!
vive le beau jeu !
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Gary Duane
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Emerson did almost as well, from 1956-1971 with only '57 not reaching a QF or better, I think. I just looked it up. But for both we are looking at pre-Open years where the best players were not playing in the slams, so I would not mix those records with those who strung together long runs after '68.
stringertom
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From the penthouse to the outhouse for Spadea...from October '99 through June '00, he lost 21 straight matches and took 4 hours plus in a 9-7 fifth set vs Rusedski at 1R Wimby'00 to end the slide.
Only 14 months before that he bageled Federer at M-C and is still only one of four players to ever do that. The other three are Rafter (RG'99), Byron Black (Queen's'99 of all places!) and Nadal (RG'08).
PhrygianDominant
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PDJ
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And 13 years straight winning at least one major - and all the greater when she rarely played all 4 in one year, and sometimes only 2 given the variable status of the AO, and RG at certain points in her career.
AO- only played it 6 times but reached the final on every occasion. Not sure if anyone else has a 100% record of always reaching a final at a major - possibly if they only played an event once or twice?
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Phoenix1983
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That settles it. Spadea truly is the GOAT!
MichaelNadal
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Evert entered 303 tournaments during her career, winning 157 of them (51.8%), reaching the final in 230 of them (75.9%) and reaching the semi-finals in 273 of them (90.1%). She had more 11 more title wins (157) than match defeats (146) during her entire career, which was staggering.
All 4 semi-finalist at Hamburg in 2003 were from Argentina, Coria, Calleri, Gaudio and Nalbandian. That is the only time that players from one country have swept all 4 semi-final places at a masters event since the series was introduced in 1990.
Henman's QF masterclass against Chela at RG in 2004 prevented them from sweeping all 4 semi-final places at that event as well.
The only men's grand slam tournaments in the open era in which all 4 semi-finalists have hailed from the same country, are the 1976 and 1995 Australian Opens. In 1976 the majority of players in the draw were Australian, and they occupied all 8 quarter-final places. In 1995, Agassi, Sampras, Chang, and Krickstein led a US sweep in the semi-finals, with Courier losing that emotional and hard-fought QF against Sampras.
Henman's QF masterclass against Chela at RG in 2004 prevented them from sweeping all 4 semi-final places at that event as well.
The only men's grand slam tournaments in the open era in which all 4 semi-finalists have hailed from the same country, are the 1976 and 1995 Australian Opens. In 1976 the majority of players in the draw were Australian, and they occupied all 8 quarter-final places. In 1995, Agassi, Sampras, Chang, and Krickstein led a US sweep in the semi-finals, with Courier losing that emotional and hard-fought QF against Sampras.
MichaelNadal
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octobrina10
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The AntiRafaBrigade has never stopped constructing imaginary stories about Rafa. Their performance & consistency is simply ridiculous!
PDJ
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I love this gif. And very well deserved reflection on the Evert career.
Me likey. Me likey a lot!
MichaelNadal
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Years in which at least one player reached the QFs or better in all four majors.
1969: Laver/Roche/Newcombe
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1983: Lendl
1985: McEnroe
1987: Lendl
1988: Wilander/Lendl
1991: Edberg
1993: Sampras
1995: Agassi
2001: Agassi
2005: Federer
2006: Federer
2007: Federer
2008: Nadal/Federer
2009: Federer
2010: Nadal/Federer/Djokovic
2011: Djokovic/Nadal/Murray/Federer
2012: Djokovic/Murray/Federer/Ferrer
2013: Djokovic/Ferrer
2014: Djokovic/Murray
2015: Djokovic/Wawrinka
2016: Murray
*Connors, Borg and McEnroe seldom played four majors per year.
Years that saw the biggest number of players reach at least one major QF: 2002--28.....1997--27. Excluding 1986, during which the Australian wasn't played, the year with the smallest number of such players was probably 2014, with 14.
In 1986, five of the top 13 male players were Swedes (at year's end). Right now, the highest ranked Swede is #150, Elias Ymer.
1969: Laver/Roche/Newcombe
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1983: Lendl
1985: McEnroe
1987: Lendl
1988: Wilander/Lendl
1991: Edberg
1993: Sampras
1995: Agassi
2001: Agassi
2005: Federer
2006: Federer
2007: Federer
2008: Nadal/Federer
2009: Federer
2010: Nadal/Federer/Djokovic
2011: Djokovic/Nadal/Murray/Federer
2012: Djokovic/Murray/Federer/Ferrer
2013: Djokovic/Ferrer
2014: Djokovic/Murray
2015: Djokovic/Wawrinka
2016: Murray
*Connors, Borg and McEnroe seldom played four majors per year.
Years that saw the biggest number of players reach at least one major QF: 2002--28.....1997--27. Excluding 1986, during which the Australian wasn't played, the year with the smallest number of such players was probably 2014, with 14.
In 1986, five of the top 13 male players were Swedes (at year's end). Right now, the highest ranked Swede is #150, Elias Ymer.
Moose Malloy
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No offense, but some of these stats are hardly obscure. Especially some of the ones for evert, I grew up watching her play and was constantly reminded by commentators like carillo that she won 125 straight matches on clay, made the semis in 52 of the 56 majors she played, and won a major a year for 13 straight years.they are her most famous stats. But Gizo's stats are definitely less known.
Here's some pretty obscure trivia - 18 year old Sampras played the longest match in AO history at the time, vs Mayotte in 1990. It was 5 hrs. It remains the longest match of Sampras' career.
@abmk
Lud had a thread last year with all the known cases of a player winning an event without being broken.
Here's some pretty obscure trivia - 18 year old Sampras played the longest match in AO history at the time, vs Mayotte in 1990. It was 5 hrs. It remains the longest match of Sampras' career.
@abmk
Lud had a thread last year with all the known cases of a player winning an event without being broken.
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There have been a few others eg Lendl at queens club in 1990 (I think Lendl would have been the only one to do it on his worst surface)
TheMaestro1990
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Best one so far
PDJ
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I agree re Evert. But those who didn't watch her play may not be so familiar.
Also Evert herself doesn't especially help as she seems to downplay her achievements - and in some cases barely remembers some of her records.
Slick Tennis
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The 3 times Guga won the French he had to beat Kafelnikov in the quarters, 2 of those matches were super tough 5 setters and the other one was a crazy 4 setter that should've gone to 5 (Kafelnikov had already played three 5 set matches in the rounds before).
Chanwan
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Boris' is the one that surprised me the most. Thought he was Finnish too son to have that kind of consistency. Edberg's 60+ matches surprised me some too.
where do you look up a stat like this?
Even if you're right, I think it's too early to call it. Up until Wimbledon, he had won everything for a year. Since then, he's struggled some, but still won a Masters and made a slam final (with the most ridiculous route to the final ever, but still). He very well could be back to his dominant self this fall season.
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bitcoinoperated
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We know Shvedova got a Golden Set vs Errani 2012 Wimbledon
Despite the rarity of this she had actually already been one point away from a golden set in a 2006 match against Amy Frazier: she was serving at 5 games to love and 40–0, when she double-faulted. Shvedova went on to lose the match, 6-1, 0-6, 0-6!
Despite the rarity of this she had actually already been one point away from a golden set in a 2006 match against Amy Frazier: she was serving at 5 games to love and 40–0, when she double-faulted. Shvedova went on to lose the match, 6-1, 0-6, 0-6!
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Monica Seles - 8 Slams as a teenager.
PDJ
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The future George VI (The present Queen's father )is the only member of the British royal family ever to have competed in a first-class tennis tournament when he entered the men's doubles event at Wimbledon in 1926, as Duke of York.
Nb- Dan Maskell coached a young Princess Anne and said she could have been a top player had she not gone in to equestrian sports instead.
Nb- Dan Maskell coached a young Princess Anne and said she could have been a top player had she not gone in to equestrian sports instead.
nadalfan2013
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Monica Seles was undefeated in the AO for her first 33 matches and in Australia the country (AO + Sydney) for her first 38 matches.
GabeT
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Actually it doesn't tell you that.
The Joker
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ahaha. spadea ai'nt afraid of yaaaaa ahahaaaa
GabeT
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When was that?
The Joker
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neva. spadea aint afraid of ya. haha
Shaolin
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Oct 03 to Sept 05, won every final he was in (24). Previous best was Borg's 15 straight.
winstonlim8
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Stan Wawrinka is the first man to win a major in rose pink!
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http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/draws/archive/1926/MD/r1s1.html
That's a royal spanking right there.
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I'd call that magenta.
GabeT
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Interesting point a-in how to look at these streaks. While Fed won all the finals he reached at the same time he did not reach every final, or even close. From Paris 2014 to MC 2016 Nole reached the final of every top tournament he played in (slams, wtf, m1000). But he didn't win them all (although he did win most). Which is a greater measure of consistency?
Felix Mantilla twice won matches after saving 9 match points, in R3 at Hamburg in 1998 against Berasategui, and in his SF at Palermo in 2001 against Portas.
Kiefer is the only player to have beaten both Sampras and Federer at the same tournament, and he did it on grass at Halle 2002. He beat Sampras in R2 and Federer in his semi-final, before losing against Kafelnikov in the final.
The other players with victories against them both on grass are Hewitt (beating Sampras at Queen's in 2000 and 2001 and Federer at Halle in 2010) and another Aussie Richard Fromberg (beating Sampras at Queen's in 1990 and Federer at Nottingham in 2000).
Jeremy Chardy beat Frederico Gil in the 1st round of RG, Wimbledon and the US Open in 2008. At both RG and Wimbledon, Chardy had wildcard and Gil was a qualifier.
That match-up really stands out when you consider the other instances in the open era when a male player has beaten an opponent in 3 consecutive majors:
- McEnroe against Connors at RG, Wimbledon and the USO in 1984
- Federer against Kiefer at Wimbledon, the USO and AO in 2005/2006
- Federer against Soderling at RG, Wimbledon and the USO in 2009
- Nadal against Murray at RG, Wimbledon and the USO in 2011
- Djokovic against Nadal at Wimbledon, the USO and AO in 2011/2012
- Djokovic against Murray at the USO, AO and RG in 2014/2015.
Kiefer is the only player to have beaten both Sampras and Federer at the same tournament, and he did it on grass at Halle 2002. He beat Sampras in R2 and Federer in his semi-final, before losing against Kafelnikov in the final.
The other players with victories against them both on grass are Hewitt (beating Sampras at Queen's in 2000 and 2001 and Federer at Halle in 2010) and another Aussie Richard Fromberg (beating Sampras at Queen's in 1990 and Federer at Nottingham in 2000).
Jeremy Chardy beat Frederico Gil in the 1st round of RG, Wimbledon and the US Open in 2008. At both RG and Wimbledon, Chardy had wildcard and Gil was a qualifier.
That match-up really stands out when you consider the other instances in the open era when a male player has beaten an opponent in 3 consecutive majors:
- McEnroe against Connors at RG, Wimbledon and the USO in 1984
- Federer against Kiefer at Wimbledon, the USO and AO in 2005/2006
- Federer against Soderling at RG, Wimbledon and the USO in 2009
- Nadal against Murray at RG, Wimbledon and the USO in 2011
- Djokovic against Nadal at Wimbledon, the USO and AO in 2011/2012
- Djokovic against Murray at the USO, AO and RG in 2014/2015.
Phoenix1983
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Moroccan men seem easily able to reach slam quarter-finals, but get no further.
Both Hicham Arazi (1997, 1998 FO; 2000, 2004 AO) and Younes El Aynaoui (2000, 2003 AO; 2002, 2003 US) made it to four slam quarter-finals without winning one. In El Aynaoui's case, he played the longest slam quarter-final of all time at the 2003 AO against Roddick, losing 19-21 in the fifth, before succumbing to the Moroccan curse.
Not convinced? The curse has affected even those men who were born in Morocco, but have represented another country: Guy Forget, as a Frenchman, lost in five quarter-finals (1991, 1993 AO; 1991, 1992, 1994 W), while Ronald Agenor, as a Haitian, lost in one (1989 FO).
That's a total of 0-14 for Moroccan-born men.
Both Hicham Arazi (1997, 1998 FO; 2000, 2004 AO) and Younes El Aynaoui (2000, 2003 AO; 2002, 2003 US) made it to four slam quarter-finals without winning one. In El Aynaoui's case, he played the longest slam quarter-final of all time at the 2003 AO against Roddick, losing 19-21 in the fifth, before succumbing to the Moroccan curse.
Not convinced? The curse has affected even those men who were born in Morocco, but have represented another country: Guy Forget, as a Frenchman, lost in five quarter-finals (1991, 1993 AO; 1991, 1992, 1994 W), while Ronald Agenor, as a Haitian, lost in one (1989 FO).
That's a total of 0-14 for Moroccan-born men.
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