HetTheGreaterer
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We seriously need you guys to shut down this medvedev hype train...
Where are you, rafa and roger??
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Lleytonstation
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All it might take is the AO20. This amazing run by Med Bear is awesome, but it means very little unless he starts winning slams. An early loss or another loss to the big3 in the later rounds will slow this hype.
If he is for real, he will show it at AO20. If not... then he falls back in the Thiem, Zverev category. I mean come on, if he is as great as we say he is, and has improved like his results show, he should win the AO against an aging big3.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
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James P
G.O.A.T.
It would be great if he won it, but I'd be pretty happy with a SF or better in AO2020.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
I don’t care about the AO. I want Med to pull off the W UO double next year.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
It would be nice for the tour. But a SF wont cut it. Not at this point. It would be regression to be honest. A final keeps him about where he has been. But a SF would slow the hype and the "next gen" jokes would continue.
topher
Hall of Fame
Nadal is getting married and about to be world #1. Not to be confused with the dubious title of “Future #1”, a title Medvedev just stole from Tsitsipas, who stole it from Zverev, who stole it from Thiem.
Which isn’t to be confused with “Future Future #1”, a title FAA stole from Shapovalov, who got it from Tiafoe, who took it from Ryan Harrison or Donald Young or somebody.
Roger is zeroing in on slams and knows #3 vs 4 makes no difference there.
topher
Hall of Fame
I don’t really agree, who else among the nextGen has made consecutive slam SFs? Med has them beat between the ears, me thinks.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa was seen partying at a club in Mallorca on Saturday night:
Frank Bannister
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Lleytonstation
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Yes, it is definitely good compared to what we have seen. But Thiem made 4 SF in a row at the FO and two finals. Won a master's as well and beaten the big3. Zverev has done the same but even better, just not at the slams.
While a SF or final is good, it is not going to be anything other than baby steps. He won't win the French or WC, so we have to wait another year for him to breakthrough and win a slam?
Guys need to win slams at age 23 against 33+ years olds to live up to the hype of a potential future "ATG."
ghostofMecir
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Frank Bannister
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TheGhostOfAgassi
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Rafa did his job twice this year regarding trying to stop Medvedev hype train.
James P
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, definitely agree, but I was just talking about the SF in AO2020 earlier. I fully expect him to win a slam next season at some point. The only one that seems impossible in current form is RG. He has three strong shots next year.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I would say 2. But if he wins AO, then his confidence will be out of this world, and we know what that can do for players.
topher
Hall of Fame
I’m not saying he will be a ATG after a SF appearance, I’m saying in two generations of players who are happy to lose, Med keeping an idgaf attitude and backing it up with a second consecutive slam SF will continue my feeling that he is not just another NextGen “let’s just wait until the better players get old” type.
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Rafa beat Medvedev 63 60 at Canada Masters 2019.
Rafa beat Medvedev in 5 Sets at US Open 2019 but bare in mind Rafa led 2 sets to love and up a break in the 3rd Set!
I have to like Rafa's chances of beating Medvedev in straight sets at Paris Indoors and World Tour Finals
Rafa beat Medvedev in 5 Sets at US Open 2019 but bare in mind Rafa led 2 sets to love and up a break in the 3rd Set!
I have to like Rafa's chances of beating Medvedev in straight sets at Paris Indoors and World Tour Finals
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
But if not now? When? I just think he has shown he can and should be winning slams after this run. Now we need to see how he finishes the year, but at this point, you can only win slams to move up. The better plays have been old for a while now.
I simply see a SF appearance as regression. Have to do more than that against a weak young field and a 33+ ATG field.
guitarra
Professional
I agree. I also think the pressure on Medvedev at AO will be pretty big. Especially if he adds 1 or 2 more titles in 2019. Let’s wait and see how he handles it. Judging by his on court interviews and celebrations he seems like he is mentally prepared to go all the way. But is he really? And will he do it?
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Zverev has 0 Slam finals, unlike Medvedev. So no, Medvedev is much better than Zverev. It is an insult to objectivity to compare Medvedev with Zverev.
King_ Zeglan12
Professional
Rafa and Roger can only meet Medvedev in the SF/F of the remaining events..
For the time being, we can be sure of Medvedev making the date as Rafa (rusty) and Federer (not in good form) are not guarantees.
For the time being, we can be sure of Medvedev making the date as Rafa (rusty) and Federer (not in good form) are not guarantees.
Breakpointerer
Legend
Mallorca and Finland
I'm joking
I'm joking
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tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Nadal is far far away from tougher draws.
King_ Zeglan12
Professional
Isn't Roger playing an exho in Tokyo ?Mallorca and Finland
Breakpointerer
Legend
I don't mean he's actually in Finland lol
King_ Zeglan12
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clayqueen
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Deleted member 763691
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He means Federer is done finished kaput!
Done like a two dollar hooker
Done like a two dollar hooker
Frank Bannister
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Write Federer off at your own peril, dummies.
DSH
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King_ Zeglan12
Professional
Can you elaborateWhy don't you call a spade a spade?
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Deleted member 762343
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I like the (not so subtle) dig at Djokovic.
Start da Game
Hall of Fame
there is no hype......the reactions everywhere is a reflection of his stellar consistency in the last six months......
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
This is the last weekend to enjoy his single life. The club, where Rafa partied, seems to be a great place:
Social Club Mallorca
Social Club Mallorca, Palma De Mallorca, Spain. 22,497 likes · 21 talking about this · 20,519 were here. Social, the swanky club that puts the focus back on the experience as a whole and takes you...
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aman92
Legend
Didn't he just beat the guy who is the subject of the this thread in his last 2 finals?
StrongRule
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According to this guy every player who ever lost to Nadal outside of clay is an absolute mug.
beast of mallorca
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HetTheGreaterer
Banned
It's still not stopped.
He needs to do it again, just like he did in Canada & new york this year & roger in Miami earlier this season..
One more 6-3 6-0 or 6-4 6-2 is required (uso could very well be 6-4 6-3 6-4 if bull didn't turn sheet)
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
1) barely
2) first Slam final for Medvedev and he played like dogS in the first 2 sets, the fact that he got so close to winning after being 0-2 down is a near miracle
3) broke in the 5th set after a lucky rally
4) Medvedev's health questionable, Wawrinka should've put that QF match to bed
Not to mention Nadal had a joke draw to get to the final so he was fresh
So basically same old.It's been well established that Nadal can only beat injured, tired opponents or absolute waiters at the US Open.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
If he doesn't find new weapons especially in terms of upping the firepower considerably in areas of ballstriking from both wings, I'm more than sure that the tour will figure him out in the break time & then will tell him to shut his phuck up as a small kid who doesn't know how to fight...
StrongRule
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HetTheGreaterer
Banned
I'm starting a countdown before the medvedev puzzle gets solved.. (fedal have already solved it but won't share the keys ofcourse)
aman92
Legend
1. Destroyed him in Montreal and would have won in straights at the USO if he hadn't missed a simple volley in the third
2. Again, both players showed a very high level throughout the match, the fact that he came back from 2-0 down shows his mental fortitude and tactical awareness.
3. Nadal broke twice in the fifth set..
4. Medvedev has reached 6 straight finals, is 23. Never once did I see him fatiguing, it was Nadal who was running out of stamina towards the end.
So basically all your points are pure BS
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I get what you are saying, I truly do. However, if you look at their resumes, Zverev has 4 big titles (3 masters on two surfaces and a WTF on indoors). Med Bear has 2 all on one surface and all this summer.
While a final is massive, it does not earn him anything. Yes, we can see the light at the end of the tunnel for Med Bear and not quite yet for zverev. That being said, Med Bear is older and Zverev might produce the same at his age.
One slam is really all that separates these two in overall resumes. Plus, Med has only done it on one surface.
So while yes, Med Bear has shown more, they are comparable. Slams? Zero for both.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
I want marriage photographs of nadal..
Provide them please
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
I'm pretty sure it was an overhead..
I still can't believe nadal missed that sort of shot
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Omg Warrior Nadal had to be at his very very best to beat golden Medvedev, what a champion, what a warrior. Humbalito shows the world that he's the GOAT. I can't I can't even
Thomas O’Malley
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Medvedev deserves every bit of hype he gets. Who outside of the big 4 has gone on this kind of sustained stretch in the last 15 years?
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