Which beatdown was Greater?

[aman92]

AO 2019 or RG 2020? My vote goes to RG 2020 considering that Djokovic was undefeated this year, playing near his best and had just won Rome. Whereas despite not dropping a set en route to 2019 final, Nadal hadn't played any tournament prior to it in months and thus was severely short of competitive practice. Plus the historical implications of today's match were way higher IMO..on par with AO 2017.

 

[StrongRule]

Have to go with RG 2020.

 

[Sabrina]

RG 2020. Fewer games lost plus a bagel.

 

[Mainad]

RG 2020 has to take it. Djokovic won 1 game less than Nadal did at 2019 AO and suffered the indignity of a bagel to boot!

 

[Standaa]

RG was way more competitive in rallies and games

Djokovic was definitely a better player today than Nadal was at AO 19, the scoreline lies

 

[Daniel Andrade]

The bagel and the conditions call for it. RG 2020.

 

[StrongRule]

RG was way more competitive in the rallies and games

Djokovic was definitely a better player today than Nadal was at AO 19

Which makes RG 2020 even a more impressive beatdown, no?

 

[ND-13]

The first two sets here could have been 6-0, 6-1.

Nadal is not the one to brag but he almost said today was his day from the get go.

 

[roysid]

AO 2019 final. Nadal never looked in the match from 1st game to the last.

Here Djoker was very much in the match from 3rd set onwards. Till the final game, I never felt novak was out. The margin was pretty thin

 

[Breakpointerer]

This one happened at Djokovic's Open so
(alright last time I'm using that joke)

 

[TheNachoMan]

AO 2019 because it made me feel better..

 

[The Blond Blur]

RAFA was such a savage serving bakery products to a guy with a gluten allergy

 

[K-H]

Honest review:

AO 19:
Not many points were competitive. Djokovic took control of rallies before they even started.
Nadal didn't break once.

RG 20:
Nadal lost fewer games overall in the match.
He actually won a set 6-0. Bagel in a GS final is crazy.
It took djokovic an hour to win the first game.

I'll give the nod to nadal here.

 

[Deleted member 762343]

AO 19. It was initially RG 2020 until the third set. Djokovic was way more competitive in the final set than Nadal ever was throughout the whole AO 19 match.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Which makes RG 2020 even a more impressive beatdown, no?

Hey I was right, huh? Gotta trust my anal-ysis more in the fewcha.

 

[Krish0608]

Of course RG 2020. Djokovic got bageled.

 

[aman92]

AO 2019 final. Nadal never looked in the match from 1st game to the last.

Here Djoker was very much in the match from 3rd set onwards. Till the final game, I never felt novak was out. The margin was pretty thin

Nadal literally dominated most of the rallies from the back of the court...barring middle of the 3rd set, Novak never looked competitive for me.

 

[tennis_pro]

I missed the part when Nadal (ever) plays a 4-5h SF match

 

[StrongRule]

Hey I was right, huh? Gotta trust my anal-ysis more in the fewcha.

Yes, it happens. Came out of nowhere, really.

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

None, because Rafa had returned from months of injury at AO 2019 and Novak was injured at RG 2020 final , he couldn't serve and hit the backhand down the line.

 

[Dilexson]

Did we all forget the hype for the Dal before that AO? Some were calling it his best form since 2014 and he got wrecked like never before in a slam Final.
Either 2019 or a tie.

 

[MeatTornado]

This one happened at Djokovic's Open so
(alright last time I'm using that joke)

Don't know how today could even be in the conversation. Once Nadal got broken back, Novak won in 5. Biggest choke of all time. NID

 

[StrongRule]

I missed the part when Nadal (ever) plays a 4-5h SF match

 

[NoleFam]

Djokovic won a higher percentage of points in 2020 AO although he allowed more games. It was like 63% I believe compared to 58% today. That 1st set was closer than it looked and Djokovic had game point in a couple of games, and couldn't capitalize and hit an ace at deuce in a service game that would have given him game point that was called out.

 

[Djokovic2011]

RG 2020 for the first two sets alone.

 

[The Blond Blur]

I missed the part when Nadal (ever) plays a 4-5h SF match

Joker shouldn't have choked on MP Besides, he only played 45 minutes longer than RAFA did in the SF.

 

[Deleted member 756514]

The bagel takes it.
Nadal has now bageled Djokovic in the last 2 clay finals they have played in.

 

[tennis_pro]

Joker shouldn't have choked on MP Besides, he only played 45 minutes longer than RAFA did in the SF.

Nadal just took 3 hours to beat Djokovic and he lost 7 games.

 

[aldeayeah]

They were both pretty severe beatdowns. I guess RG 2020 was a bit worse.

Neither were as bad as RG 2017, RG 2008 or USO 2004, though.

 

[CYGS]

I am a huge Djokovic fan, but I really do hope this humiliation humbles him down, stops all his activism bs and gets his focus back to tennis. I do not want him to spend even a minute outside of tennis. If he does something stupid again, I will be the first to criticize him on TTW.

Again congrats to Nadal. If Djokovic was not meant to be the GOAT, Nadal would be my ideal choice for the title.

 

[Rago]

Well, scoreline obviously looks worse at RG since it's harder to hold serve on clay.

 

[The Blond Blur]

Nadal just took 3 hours to beat Djokovic and he lost 7 games.

I know, I watched the whole glorious thing. Still doesn't change the fact Joker missed a BH on MP in the SF vs Sissypuss. Even then he barely played longer than RAFA did against Shortsman.

 

[BGod]

Novak undefeated.
Less games won.

Pretty clear 2020 RG.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Novak won 42% of points today. Nadal won 37% of points at the AO in 2020.

Beyond the 1 game difference, there isn't much argument in favour of today being a bigger beatdown. Nadal generated 1 total break point in the 2019 AO match.

 

[onyxrose81]

The bagel today was not ideal to say the least but the score line didn’t tell the whole tale. A bit more luck and a few less UE could have made a minute difference. Nadal was never in the match at AO.

 

[megamind]

Novak won 42% of points today. Nadal won 37% of points at the AO in 2020.

Beyond the 1 game difference, there isn't much argument in favour of today being a bigger beatdown. Nadal generated 1 total break point in the 2019 AO match.

Big points matter in tennis.

Didn't Fedr win more points than Novak at Fortyfifteendon last year?

 

[BackhandDTL]

Meh not a valid argument because the surfaces are different.

Novak won 42% of points today. Nadal won 37% of points at the AO in 2020.

Beyond the 1 game difference, there isn't much argument in favour of today being a bigger beatdown. Nadal generated 1 total break point in the 2019 AO match.

 

[Winner]

I missed the part when Nadal (ever) plays a 4-5h SF match

He did in AO 2009, and he went on to win the final in 5 as well against the GOAT.

 

[Meles]

AO 2019 or RG 2020? My vote goes to RG 2020 considering that Djokovic was undefeated this year, playing near his best and had just won Rome. Whereas despite not dropping a set en route to 2019 final, Nadal hadn't played any tournament prior to it in months and thus was severely short of competitive practice. Plus the historical implications of today's match were way higher IMO..on par with AO 2017.

RG2020 by a wide margin.

 

[tennis_pro]

He did in AO 2009, and he went on to win the final in 5 as well against the GOAT.

drugs were stronger then I think

 

[UnforcedTerror]

AO by far.

RG felt like it was an UE galore from Djokovic. AO was something special. A masterclass. Djokovic absolutely dismantled the Bull on the court.

 

[NoleFam]

Novak won 42% of points today. Nadal won 37% of points at the AO in 2020.

Beyond the 1 game difference, there isn't much argument in favour of today being a bigger beatdown. Nadal generated 1 total break point in the 2019 AO match.

Yep and Nadal did get broken once today.

 

[Djoker11]

I think RG2020 was the better beatdown while AO19 was the easier beatdown if that makes sense to people. Tbh with you both guys on the losing end of those matches both looked done and dusted by the first set so it's hard to really compare.

 

[Nadal_King]

No doubt Rg 2020 since this was considered even and aus open was not, novak coming with huge streak and rafa not beaten djokovic in a slam for 6 years, I used to fear djokovic most in a grand slam not anymore, feel rafa can win 25 now

 

[BackhandDTL]

AO by far.

RG felt like it was an UE galore from Djokovic. AO was something special. Djokovic absolutely dismantled the Bull.

Lol did you not see how poorly Nadal played that AO final? He looked worse than Djokovic did today.

 

[DSH]

Bye, bye, JOKER!

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Meh not a valid argument because the surfaces are different.

Not really. If we look at both serve/return stats:

RG 2020
Novak - 49.5% serve points won
Nadal - 66.7% serve points won

AO 2019
Novak - 80.0% serve points won
Nadal - 51.1% serve points won

Novak did almost as well on return at the AO as Nadal did today (this stat should greatly favor Nadal today since it's easier to win return points on clay), but did way better on serve at the AO than Nadal did today. There is no way to argue that today was a bigger beatdown besides the 1 game difference, which is rather trivial.

 

[Deleted member 771911]

Show me the AO bagel.
Show me all the pundits and fans claiming Nadal was favorite at AO.
This beatdown was the mother of all beatdowns.

 

[TheNachoMan]

I am a huge Djokovic fan, but I really do hope this humiliation humbles him down, stops all his activism bs and gets his focus back to tennis. I do not want him to spend even a minute outside of tennis. If he does something stupid again, I will be the first to criticize him on TTW.

Again congrats to Nadal. If Djokovic was not meant to be the GOAT, Nadal would be my ideal choice for the title.

He needs to ditch Goran. Embarrassing for him to come out and say what he said

 

[WhiskeyEE]

No doubt Rg 2020 since this was considered even and aus open was not, novak coming with huge streak and rafa not beaten djokovic in a slam for 6 years, I used to fear djokovic most in a grand slam not anymore, feel rafa can win 25 now

Actually Nadal was a larger betting favourite today than Novak was at the AO.

AO 2019
Novak: -135
Nadal: +115

RG 2020
Novak: +130
Nadal: -150