Which matchup has been more lopsided?

Neptune

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Nole over Rafa on HC?

Rafa over Nole on clay?

Update:
overall:
Nole-Rafa HC 20-7
Rafa-Nole CC 20-8

When both in Top2
Nole-Rafa HC 8-1
Rafa-Nole CC 5-3
 
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nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Oh dear lord. Here we go again.

Beijing 2013 2-0
ATP Finals 2013 2-0
Miami 2014 2-0
Beijing 2015 2-0
ATP finals 2015 2-0
Doha 2016 2-0. IMO This is the best thrashing of all time 6-1 6-2
IW 2016 2-0
AO 2019 3-0
ATP cup 2020 2-0

So a total of 19 sets won in a row. Djokovic ended him on HC. On clay even before 2011 Djokovic at least was competitive. Nadal has been non competitive for a decade now. Some would say, Nadal will never be a threat to him ever again.
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
Hc easily. Djo has straight set him 6 times on clay.

Straight sets (without tie-break) in every major clay tournaments. 6-3 6-3 in Monaco, 7-5 6-4 in Madrid, 6-4 6-4 in Rome, 7-5 6-3 6-1 in RG (+ 2 other in Monaco 2013 and Rome 2016)
Where are Nadal's straight sets wins in Australia, Miami, Canada, Cincinnati, USO, Shanghaï and Paris? Only HC straight-set wins were in IW2007 and WTF2007, during teen Nole's first months in the top-10 (and one in a meaningless half dead rubber round robbin in 2010)
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Straight sets (without tie-break) in every major clay tournaments. 6-3 6-3 in Monaco, 7-5 6-4 in Madrid, 6-4 6-4 in Rome, 7-5 6-3 6-1 in RG (+ 2 other in Monaco 2013 and Rome 2016)
Where are Nadal's straight sets wins in Australia, Miami, Canada, Cincinnati, USO, Shanghaï and Paris? Only HC straight-set wins were in IW2007 and WTF2007, during Nole's first months in the top-10 (and one in a meaningless half dead rubber round robbin in 2010)
Exactly there is no comparison. Djokovic owns him.
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
prime to prime:

Clay - Rafa 6-0
HC - 2-2 or 3-2 Djokovic if you include 2019 AO


clearly Rafa more dominant at RG.
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
Oh dear lord. Here we go again.

Beijing 2013 2-0
ATP Finals 2013 2-0
Miami 2014 2-0
Beijing 2015 2-0
ATP finals 2015 2-0
Doha 2016 2-0. IMO This is the best thrashing of all time 6-1 6-2
IW 2016 2-0
AO 2019 3-0
ATP cup 2020 2-0

So a total of 19 sets won in a row. Djokovic ended him on HC. On clay even before 2011 Djokovic at least was competitive. Nadal has been non competitive for a decade now. Some would say, Nadal will never be a threat to him ever again.
Bunch of Mickey Mouse and bunch of wins in 2014-2016 during Rafa’s off years. Prime for prime, 2-2 at HC slams and 5-0 on clay for Rafa. Slam dunk.


Beijing, Doha, ATP cup, LOL. Hc slams is 3-2 Djokovic, 2-2 prime to prime. Rg h2h is like 5-0 prime to prime. It’s a slam dunk.
 

Neptune

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Slam is tricky, on clay Nole is Rafa's biggest competitor, but on HC many bigger competitors for Nole.

Nole-Rafa 5 HC slam matches all in Finals, 4 of them Nole had 5-set max wear down in SF, the only exception is AO19, and it was a beat down.
 

fedfan24

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Slam is tricky, on clay Nole is Rafa's biggest competitor, but on HC many bigger competitors for Nole.

Nole-Rafa 5 HC slam matches all in Finals, 4 of them Nole had 5-set max wear down in SF, the only exception is AO19, and it was a beat down.
Prime to prime:

6-0 in clay slams for rafa
3-2 in hc slams for Djokovic (being generous including 2019 AO)

Slam dunk. Lol at including bejjing and Doha Mickey Mouse wins vs 15-16 crapdal.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
pardon? Fed was most dominant of the big 3 at 3/4 slams at his peak. djokovic did the best in his 30s vs Mickey Mouse opponents true

when in top5 no bs excuse.

AO for example, Fed only one win over teenager Nole still outside top10
and then 4 losses when Fed in top3, including No.1 at 26.
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
Shameful hater in this thread. Why does Federer have such people? Just too old and bitter guessing.
I could ask the same thing about clowns who try to claim djokovic was more dominant on hc than Nadal on clay based on some bo3 wins vs 2015-2016 crapdal
In Beijing and doha
 

BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
Bunch of Mickey Mouse and bunch of wins in 2014-2016 during Rafa’s off years. Prime for prime, 2-2 at HC slams and 5-0 on clay for Rafa. Slam dunk.


Beijing, Doha, ATP cup, LOL. Hc slams is 3-2 Djokovic, 2-2 prime to prime. Rg h2h is like 5-0 prime to prime. It’s a slam dunk.


I find it hilarious you count USO 2010 but not AO 2019 lol.


Or that you count 2007 for RG.
 

BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
I could ask the same thing about clowns who try to claim djokovic was more dominant on hc than Nadal on clay based on some bo3 wins vs 2015-2016 crapdal
In Beijing and doha


Since you love these nonsensical "prime" definitions, since Djokovic entered his "prime", Nadal has TWO measly wins on HC or outside clay overall.


pardon? Fed was most dominant of the big 3 at 3/4 slams at his peak. djokovic did the best in his 30s vs Mickey Mouse opponents true


It's not Djokovic's fault if Federer exits his prime at 26 or he goes 7 years with 1 slam title.
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
I find it hilarious you count USO 2010 but not AO 2019 lol.


Or that you count 2007 for RG.
ok we can count both

5-0 at rg for Nadal
3-2 on hc for djokovic

this isn’t including 2020/2022 rg either. You can have 2021 despite injury so really can say 7-1 on clay to Nadal, 3-2 to djokovic on hc. Not really a contest unless you’re equating Mickey mouse Beijing wins over 2015 Nadal to prime to prime slam wins.
 

TMF

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Bunch of Mickey Mouse and bunch of wins in 2014-2016 during Rafa’s off years. Prime for prime, 2-2 at HC slams and 5-0 on clay for Rafa. Slam dunk.


Beijing, Doha, ATP cup, LOL. Hc slams is 3-2 Djokovic, 2-2 prime to prime. Rg h2h is like 5-0 prime to prime. It’s a slam dunk.
That's a problem with Djoker fans. They ignore the different weigh of each tournament and players are not always in-form all the time.

Throwing out numbers alone is useless without context
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
Since you love these nonsensical "prime" definitions, since Djokovic entered his "prime", Nadal has TWO measly wins on HC or outside clay overall.





It's not Djokovic's fault if Federer exits his prime at 26 or he goes 7 years with 1 slam title.
It’s more like 29-31 not 26 bud.

Prime to prime djokovic is 2-2 in hc slams vs nadal. Dont think anyone but forum nerds care about Beijing or atp cup micky mouse wins LOL
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Since you love these nonsensical "prime" definitions, since Djokovic entered his "prime", Nadal has TWO measly wins on HC or outside clay overall.





It's not Djokovic's fault if Federer exits his prime at 26 or he goes 7 years with 1 slam title.
I say don't respond to this troll at all. He/She is trying to derail the thread. Go around him/her and make your post.
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
I say don't respond to this troll at all. He/She is trying to derail the thread. Go around him/her and make your post.
Says the troll who posted this:

Beijing 2013 2-0
ATP Finals 2013 2-0
Miami 2014 2-0
Beijing 2015 2-0
ATP finals 2015 2-0
Doha 2016 2-0. IMO This is the best thrashing of all time 6-1 6-2
IW 2016 2-0
AO 2019 3-0
ATP cup 2020 2-0


4 wins over 2015-2016 crapdal in Mickey Mouse BO3 events, then listing ATP cup win and trying to equate this to BO5 slam wins peak for peak! Always enjoyable to expose this kind of trolling agenda :D
 
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fedfan24

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That's a problem with Djoker fans. They ignore the different weigh of each tournament and players are not always in-form all the time.

Throwing out numbers alone is useless without context
Bingo. Quite amusing to try to equal 2015 Beijing win to 2013 Roland Garros for example.
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
Anyway back on topic, if we say 2008-2014 prime to prime:
RG, 4-0 to nadal
HC, 2-2 (tie)

Overall including all years:
RG, 8-2 to nadal
HC, 3-2 to djokovic


Seems comprehensive no matter how you split it. Couldn’t care less about ATP cup or Beijing.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
overall:
Nole-Rafa HC 20-7
Rafa-Nole CC 20-8

When both in Top2
Nole-Rafa HC 8-1
Rafa-Nole CC 5-3
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
2010 is "prime" Djokovic when he had his worst season ever outside the injury-ridden 2017, but 2019 when Nadal was #1, won 2 slams and made another final without dropping a set doesn't count lol.
2010 Djokovic came into the final on the back defeating a very good federer in 5 sets. 2019 Nadal had an easy run to the final and wasn’t tested. Can count both, 3-2 to Djokovic overall.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
2010 Djokovic came into the final on the back defeating a very good federer in 5 sets. 2019 Nadal had an easy run to the final and wasn’t tested. Can count both, 3-2 to Djokovic overall.

How many times Rafa NOT having an easy run to the final on HC?
 
Did all these djokovic stans just get out of bed? Don't y'all got anything better to do than talk about the same mundane things every day? :-D
Yeah it really gets unbearable lately. Regurgitating the same boring talking points and even bumping countless old threads. Not a Djoko hater by any means but just for those idiots I am inclined to wish him an early loss at the AO.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Yeah it really gets unbearable lately. Regurgitating the same boring talking points and even bumping countless old threads. Not a Djoko hater by any means but just for those idiots I am inclined to wish him an early loss at the AO.
Do you think his early loss will discourage the fans or encourage even further? You should want him to keep winning so focus is on new topics.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
Yeah it really gets unbearable lately. Regurgitating the same boring talking points and even bumping countless old threads. Not a Djoko hater by any means but just for those idiots I am inclined to wish him an early loss at the AO.

If you are no fan no hater of any big3, why would you be so invested? isn't very easy to skip all those threads?
 
Do you think his early loss will discourage the fans or encourage even further? You should want him to keep winning so focus is on new topics.
I seriously don't care what you guys focus on in your weird hero worshipping. I am here to discuss tennis or to some extent other sports, not worshipping a guy who couldnt care less about my existence. Thank God there is still the FPP section.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
I seriously don't care what you guys focus on in your weird hero worshipping. I am here to discuss tennis or to some extent other sports, not worshipping a guy who couldnt care less about my existence. Thank God there is still the FPP section.
And what we are discussing isn't tennis?We are talking Australian opens and US opens.
 
If you are no fan no hater of any big3, why would you be so invested? isn't very easy to skip all those threads?
I am indeed no fan nor hater of any big 3 and could indeed skip those threads. However, reasonable and well-balanced posters are already posting less here which is a shame since we are getting less and less interesting discussions.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
I am indeed no fan nor hater of any big 3 and could indeed skip those threads. However, reasonable and well-balanced posters are already posting less here which is a shame since we are getting less and less interesting discussions.

Well, why would you try to control others? are you trying to be mod and ban whoever you don't like?
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Tennis in general not limited to one guy, have you ever started a thread that does not involve Djokovic?
Just this week. I like many tennis players. But Djokovic is the one I support. It's in my username so don't be so frustrated.


Also why not talk about the best player in the history and reigning world number 1. There is no one better..
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
I am indeed no fan nor hater of any big 3 and could indeed skip those threads. However, reasonable and well-balanced posters are already posting less here which is a shame since we are getting less and less interesting discussions.
Reasonable?

Many tennis posters are having agendas. You are here long enough. Shorter time than me but even you know this. Only the ones with failed logic are leaving. Or creating topics like CIE.
 
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