Who can beat Roger Federer?

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Hey bigserve when was this when henman beat fed?This was before fed became dominant,dont give me that crap.

Nadal has beat fed in his prime,in finals.The only players i can think of who have done that since fed started winning everything is safin once+nalby once.How do you explain nadal beating him 2 out of 3 on the hardcourts?
 

Mick

Legend
jmsx521 said:
Who can beat Roger:

1. Safin, with a new brain-implant.

i read an interview with Pete Sampras on the 2005 tennis magazine and Sampras also said the same thing. He said Safin could stop Federer but Safin was years behind in the mental toughness department. He went on to say Hewitt, Roddick were not good enough.
 

SteveI

Legend
theace21 said:
As long as he continues to train and improve, he is going to have success. Now if he decides to get into designing clothes, modeling, having a reality show - his game is going to suffer. If the desire stays, we will have an opportunity to say we watched the greatest player of all time...

Geee... I hope his butt does not grow any bigger.. :)

Steve
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
The facts are in that no-one but Nadal can or will be Roger, after Nadal only Roger will beat Roger.


At some point in his career he is going to get tired, his level will drop may even become sick or injured at some point, but we are talking a good 1.5-2.5 years from now. By which time he may break the slam record
 

superman1

Legend
Just look to the guy that does beat him. Rafael Nadal. A lot of the guys CAN beat Federer, but they never do. Like Nadal, you have to be at 100% on every point and not let up for a second. We see it so often. A guy has Federer at 0-40, or he's up a break and trying to hold serve. Then he plays a loose point, Federer cracks a winner, suddenly the match turns around and Federer rolls through and doesn't look back. Federer beat Agassi 6-3 6-4 once but you wouldn't know from the score that Agassi had tons of chances and that was a very close match. Yet it will go down in the history books as an easy straight set romp. That's the difference. It's very small, but it's the difference between winning and losing. Nadal is the only guy that doesn't let up. Andy Murray is another guy with potential because he doesn't give away free points. Federer was too tired to play through Murray, so he instead played defensively and hoped for Murray to make errors. Didn't happen.
 
Yeah the AO match is misleading, Federer should have won it but he was a little off that day in some patches not to mention there was all the talk about the blisters BEFORE the match even started!
 

FitzRoy

Professional
ACE of Hearts said:
Safin cant beat Fed consistently.Fed has no problems with Safin, people get worked up over that Aussie Open result.

Safin can't beat anybody consistently, that's why his ranking has fallen out of the top 100. He can beat anybody, though, including Federer. He has that kind of game and talent. If he's on he's bombing 135 anywhere he wants in the box at a good percentage, following it up with the hardest struck groundstrokes on tour, hit on the rise off both sides anywhere he wants. He's physically overpowering and very athletic, and hits well on the move. I'm not saying he'll beat Federer consistently, but if they met, say, in the 4th round of a Grand Slam, you'd have to say that it wouldn't be totally shocking if Safin came away with an upset.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Of all the guys I've watched in the last couple of years, only 1 stands out as a guy who can reach that next level, where he can challenge Federer on a hard court in a best-of-5-set match. That's baghdatis. Remember, he was a raw 19-yr-old when he faced Fed in the AO final. Give him 2 or 3 more years, and I think he will be the guy, rather than Nadal, that becomes the first to dethrone Fed on hardcourt in a slam. I like Nadal, but I seriously doubt that Nadal will ever win a US Open. And I believe Baghdatis has at least 1 US Open title in him, and at least 1 Wimbledon too. Safin? I don't see him getting back to the top. Nalbandian? He's fat and done - a shadow of his old speedy self.
 

superman1

Legend
I agree. Baghdatis is the best of the bunch. He has a complete game. Big serve, very fast, very solid from the baseline. He's a different version of Agassi. Still has a very long way to go to be compared to Andre, though. Gasquet, Berdych and Murray also have a ton of potential. I'm not convinced on Monfils yet.
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
superman1 said:
Just look to the guy that does beat him. Rafael Nadal. A lot of the guys CAN beat Federer, but they never do. Like Nadal, you have to be at 100% on every point and not let up for a second. We see it so often. A guy has Federer at 0-40, or he's up a break and trying to hold serve. Then he plays a loose point, Federer cracks a winner, suddenly the match turns around and Federer rolls through and doesn't look back. Federer beat Agassi 6-3 6-4 once but you wouldn't know from the score that Agassi had tons of chances and that was a very close match. Yet it will go down in the history books as an easy straight set romp. That's the difference. It's very small, but it's the difference between winning and losing. Nadal is the only guy that doesn't let up. Andy Murray is another guy with potential because he doesn't give away free points. Federer was too tired to play through Murray, so he instead played defensively and hoped for Murray to make errors. Didn't happen.


You are 100% correct and this is one of the biggest parts of Roger's success.

He will keep hanging in there not letting up, not panicing, just playing it looking for the opening, sure he messes up here in there.

We have see that so many times the player is up, and oh it looks as if it is going to happen this time!

Then they crap it, latest example of that is Roddick.

Roger disconects himself, stays calms and just treats each shot like it is a whole shot of it's own, as a result of him staying and giving so much attention to each stroke like that he ends up with a much higher percentage of better cleaner, more penetrating well placed shots.

That is what made Roger "Roger" before he would always get upset like other players and just give up, not anymore.

Heck we have even seen when Nadal is spanking him and Nadal slightly lets up as it looks as if Roger has given up, but then he starts to push back again and then Nadal has to scamble to to reasert control of the match.

He so relaxed and calm, any time you get any feelings that even slightly distract everything falls apart
 
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