DSH
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Can the "chicken legs" emulate what the charismatic Russian achieved at the Australian Open?
Who can defeat Joker at the Australian Open 2024?
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Can the "chicken legs" emulate what the charismatic Russian achieved at the Australian Open?
Razer
Legend
Thiem displayed a high level of play in 2020 and he was 26-27 and at his peak.
Alcaraz will still be 20 in January.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Exactly, no matter how great he still is at the Australian Open, at this point, Djokovic couldn't beat three top 10s in a row in a GS tournament.
Razer
Legend
Exactly, no matter how great he still is at the Australian Open, at this point, Djokovic couldn't beat three top 10s in a row in a GS tournament.
I dont think Tiley will give him 3 Top 10s to beat, plus Novak is ranked 1/2 next year at the worst, so he could get 2 Top 10s back to back.
I think he can and will beat Alcaraz and Medvedev back to back at least.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Honestly, I would like to see if that is still possible with Djokovic.
Do you recognize that if he had faced Medvedev in the semifinals and then a rested Alcaraz, Djokovic would not have won the recent United States Open?
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
If they put Felix, Casper, and Taylor in Novak's draw then Novak will be fresh as a daisy for the final at AO or anywhere else.
Let's just hope they don't keep giving him these joke draws before people start having suspicions of fixed draws.
USO already exposed itself as giving Novak a fixed draw when they decided to not live-stream the draw ceremony which raised a lot of questions.
And no secret, they did fix the draw by putting Zverev, Sinner, and Medvedev all on Alcaraz's side of the draw
joshuayuan
Professional
Poll options are obviously trolling. Needs an extra poll option:
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Unseeded Player
Hall of Fame
If swiss maestro and spanish bull made only 1 win against him at AO I'm sure the g.o.a.t can beat any draw there.They ain't gonna televise the AO2024 draw.
They'll put Casper, Felix, and Taylor on Novak's side to ensure he makes the final
Unseeded Player
Hall of Fame
The same organization that DQ him in 2020? He did faced Medvedev and we saw what happened. Think Sinner would have better result?USO already exposed itself as giving Novak a fixed draw when they decided to not live-stream the draw ceremony which raised a lot of questions.
And no secret, they did fix the draw by putting Zverev, Sinner, and Medvedev all on Alcaraz's side of the draw
Razer
Legend
If they put Felix, Casper, and Taylor in Novak's draw then Novak will be fresh as a daisy for the final at AO or anywhere else.
Let's just hope they don't keep giving him these joke draws before people start having suspicions of fixed draws.
USO already exposed itself as giving Novak a fixed draw when they decided to not live-stream the draw ceremony which raised a lot of questions.
And no secret, they did fix the draw by putting Zverev, Sinner, and Medvedev all on Alcaraz's side of the draw
Lol, why would I hope for Novak to get tough draw ? I would like to see Novak wins as many slams as he can so that we can witness history being created and we can also witness fedal fanatics get angrier, it is double entertainment.
By the way, USO draw was a fair one. Carlos, Daniil & Alexander are all a decade younger to Novak or more, surely you cannot expect a 36 year old man to fight youngsters while youngsters are cruising there on soft draws, the draw was a fair one and it did provide entertainment to the crowd as expected.
Alcaraz is obviously the most serious threat. Medvedev can beat him only if Novak's fitness level drop, but I still think he would probably handle him. Medvedev would have absolutely no chance against prime, supremely fit Novak(2011, for example). Zverev, Rune, and Sinner probably don't have the mental strength/experience/completeness still to take him down there where he feels the most confident/invincible, but they could be dangerous opponents with potential to take him out.
Only realistic answer is probably Alcaraz, but I think that he would be scared(rattled) a bit by Novak's aura of invincibility and the confidence he has at Australia. Novak believes(knows) that he will beat anyone when he plays at least near his best there and his opponents know that and it gets to their head, I think. Almost similar aura of invincibility that Rafa has at RG(court Philippe Chatrier).
If he is healthy and his fitness doesn't significantly decline in the meantime, I would probably bet on Novak winning AO, again. Alcaraz is only realistic option to stop that, but he would probably have to play the match of his life(so far).
Only realistic answer is probably Alcaraz, but I think that he would be scared(rattled) a bit by Novak's aura of invincibility and the confidence he has at Australia. Novak believes(knows) that he will beat anyone when he plays at least near his best there and his opponents know that and it gets to their head, I think. Almost similar aura of invincibility that Rafa has at RG(court Philippe Chatrier).
If he is healthy and his fitness doesn't significantly decline in the meantime, I would probably bet on Novak winning AO, again. Alcaraz is only realistic option to stop that, but he would probably have to play the match of his life(so far).
LaVie en Rose
Hall of Fame
Contradicting yourself a lot.If they put Felix, Casper, and Taylor in Novak's draw then Novak will be fresh as a daisy for the final at AO or anywhere else.
Let's just hope they don't keep giving him these joke draws before people start having suspicions of fixed draws.
USO already exposed itself as giving Novak a fixed draw when they decided to not live-stream the draw ceremony which raised a lot of questions.
And no secret, they did fix the draw by putting Zverev, Sinner, and Medvedev all on Alcaraz's side of the draw
Consistently yapping Djokovic fans are only Serbians ( xenophobia is notable in your body of work on here) Are you saying GS organizers are Serbians?
Why would GS organizers ,mostly western world elite group of businessmen fix draws for unpopular Serbian?
What is with crazy laughs?
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Huh????? The hell do I care if Djokovic is 36 or 66? Nobody should be getting a cushy draw ever!
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Because history-making achievements usually draw bigger crowds and bigger ratings!Contradicting yourself a lot.
Consistently yapping Djokovic fans are only Serbians ( xenophobia is notable in your body of work on here) Are you saying GS organizers are Serbians?
Why would GS organizers ,mostly western world elite group of businessmen fix draws for unpopular Serbian?
What is with crazy laughs?
Didn't you notice the record breaking attendance this year along with the record viewership?
Don't worry about the crazy laughs.
LaVie en Rose
Hall of Fame
So Djokovic is that popular that GS organizers have to fix draws for him in order to win,to please tennis public&make huge profit out of it?
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
The draw all the way to the final was a joke. The whole forum called it as soon as the draw was released.
Medvedev was on the other side of the draw and he'd already peaked for the SF against Alcaraz.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
To make profits, they need to get the audience interested. Coco Gauff did her part on the women's side as they killed it in the ratings.
Djokovic at 36, they figured a cushy draw would ensure he makes the final as they had hoped for a Cincy rematch between him and Alcaraz.
LaVie en Rose
Hall of Fame
According to Mike Sams Djokovic is exceeding Federer level of popularity.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Alcaraz was completely unfazed by Novak's aura at Wimbledon.
And Novak at Wimbledon has an AO level aura.
7 titles there with 4 of them in consecutive years (barring 2020).
Subway Tennis
Legend
Yesdoes NA. stand for 'the NA.dal'?
Subway Tennis
Legend
LaVie en Rose
Hall of Fame
Why then you’re conistently yapping that Novak is not popular ,cheered by just about 6 mill of Serbs,(That’s less than NY populacy)?You want to have your cake and eat it too? Have some consistency in your rants
It's not the same feeling for Novak at AO and Wimbledon, you're mistaken if you think that. Lower bouncing, relatively fast hard court is where he feels the most comfortable. Bounce is predictable,, consistent(unlike grass and clay) and he can play more on the rise(take the ball early, with machine like precision) and you can't bother him there with high kick serve into the backhand(where it jumps above his shoulders), which is Novak's weakest return and general relative weakness of his backhand(breaking of contact point by height variation) etc. - not going into more technical details here...
And by the way, Alcaraz was fazed by Novak's aura at both RG(cramps...) and Wimbledon. Novak dropped his level significantly in the second set at Wimbledon and was very uncharacteristically unclutch(especially in the tiebreak), while Alcaraz was still doubting himself. Alcaraz wasn't sure at that moment if he's able to pull off a victory, but started to believe after winning the tiebreak. He basically said after the match that if he had lost the second set, he had no chance of coming back against Novak.
joshuayuan
Professional
Sinner has too many holes in his game.
this would be sad from an actual djokovic fan. From a guy who used to be a federer fanatic called Sunny, but jumped on the djokovic bandwagon it’s doubly pathetic.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
So did Novak once upon a time, so there's hope.
they will stack Novak’s draw with all the crap top 10s like Tsitsipas, Ruud, Fritz etc. the actual threats, Medvedev, Sinner, Zverev etc will be in alcaraz half.Honestly, I would like to see if that is still possible with Djokovic.
Do you recognize that if he had faced Medvedev in the semifinals and then a rested Alcaraz, Djokovic would not have won the recent United States Open?
alexio
G.O.A.T.
dang, the ominous reflection of strong flashed across quickly and immediately disappeared
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Off topic, but if the player (whatever his name is) fails to comply with the rules he must be sanctioned.
But what happened in the past did not prevent Djokovic from having a much easier draw than the first seed in the recently concluded US Open.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Sinner, I think has a good game for the low bouncing courts of Melbourne, it's ideal for his ball striking.
With him, its all mental really. The guy can implode, but on his day, he is a handful.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
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Semi-Pro
The correct answer is nobody. #25 is coming…resistance is futile
Vincent-C
Hall of Fame
Whose Nadal
The guy who owned peak Federer.
SonicNirvana
Hall of Fame
a kangaroo
DSH
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DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
I’d be interested in hearing the reasons why you felt his level dropped so significantly.
The reasons, I'm not so sure. But I've felt that he kinda took his foot off the gas after winning the first set so easily. Maybe he thought that he could relax a bit, drop his intensity/focus/level and still beat Alcaraz, thus underestimating him in process. Novak does that often throughout his career, that's how he manages matches. Much different from Nadal, for example, who plays every set/game/point/match the same, basically and gives everything he has at the moment.
Alcaraz was playing better(less tight) in the second set, but I could see/sense that he didn't quite believe in his possible victory after Novak schooled him in the first set. I remember that Novak's serving dropped significantly in the second set(1st serve percentage at least, he missed like 5-6 consecutive first serves at one point). Shot tolerance got lower, Djokovic started to miss more routine shots from the baseline and his depth decreased a bit which allowed Alcaraz to control/dominate points more and overpower him from the baseline.
But, what was most important and surprising was Novak's unclutchness in the tiebreak. On set point he missed a completely ordinary, regular rally backhand. The point after, same situation, ordinary backhand into the net. That doesn't happen with Novak, 99% of the time(best ask Federer). He had also a terrible drop shot(both shot selection and it's execution) while leading 3-0 in the tiebreak. Then, the decision to serve and volley on set point against great returner like Alcaraz who is also extremely fast and would likely reach the volley even if Novak made one.
Alcaraz started to believe in victory after winning the second set, Novak never quite recovered after that, even though he still could've possibly won the match(missed break point in the 5th set...). 3rd set was lost as a direct consequence of losing the second. Novak was down(psychologically, maybe a bit physically as well), Alcaraz completely took the momentum and it carried him.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Seems like people are still suffering PTSD about hamstring tears.
I think the player who wins the Men’s AO is the player who is playing the best during that fortnight and is able to focus on the task in hand.
The other thing is that everything is evolving and changing and one must make the best of the circumstances in front of them. Novak has done this better than anyone else on the tour but at the same time we must acknowledge that life is uncertain, so I always say that judging by current and historical data that their is a likely hood of a certain player to win but as life is unpredictable there are quite a few other guys out there that can win.
Even at this years AO no body knew that Carlos would withdraw injured or that Nick’s knee would flare up even though he played the exhibition, so let’s see what happens.
I think the player who wins the Men’s AO is the player who is playing the best during that fortnight and is able to focus on the task in hand.
The other thing is that everything is evolving and changing and one must make the best of the circumstances in front of them. Novak has done this better than anyone else on the tour but at the same time we must acknowledge that life is uncertain, so I always say that judging by current and historical data that their is a likely hood of a certain player to win but as life is unpredictable there are quite a few other guys out there that can win.
Even at this years AO no body knew that Carlos would withdraw injured or that Nick’s knee would flare up even though he played the exhibition, so let’s see what happens.
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