Nadal_King
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Djokovic is clear favourite but who of the following would pose biggest challenge to his chances at the Us open. Discuss and vote
Who would Djokovic would be most wary of at Us open for his chances of another grand slam.
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SystemicAnomaly
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Daniil Medvedev? Betting odd currently have him as #4. Novak, then Rafa and Roger are the top 3 -- way ahead of the rest of the pack. Any word on the speed of the USO courts this year?
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic fears no one at this point.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
No idea but probably will be medium to slow court pace with high heat and humidity, should be high bouncing which should help likes of rafa, thiem
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
You should offer multiple options.
He is weary of Kyrgios to a smaller extent (coz 0-2 H2H, even if it was in weak 2017).
Federer who almost beat him at Wimby.
And of course Medvedev who has his number and whom Novak clearly doesn't know how to beat anymore.
Why people voted for Rafa, I have no clue. They must think those wins in 2010 and 2013 make a difference. They don't.
He is weary of Kyrgios to a smaller extent (coz 0-2 H2H, even if it was in weak 2017).
Federer who almost beat him at Wimby.
And of course Medvedev who has his number and whom Novak clearly doesn't know how to beat anymore.
Why people voted for Rafa, I have no clue. They must think those wins in 2010 and 2013 make a difference. They don't.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Fedr
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
USO organizers already planning for a super easy draw for RF. They'll give him Basilashvili for R16, and Zverev for QFs.
And if they could, they'd pair up Nadal and Djokovic in the same half semis. But even USO organizers can't cheat like that, as much as they'd like to.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
That is impossible, federer will definitely have one of djokovic and nadal in his half
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
I would also be shocked if Fed doesn't have a cake draw.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
That is what I'm saying, they would love to break that rule.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
And yet he managed to lose to the likes of Robredo (just one year younger) and Millman.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
Great chances for that infact kyrgios will draw a big seed for 3rd round, if its one of the big 3 especially djokovic it would be awesome.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Djoko would relish that matchup.
Sephiroth
Hall of Fame
In this case I doubt it, they want a Fedal match at the USO more than anything.
Must suck raw ass they haven't got a single Fedal match while the other slams got tons of them. Expect Fedal to be in the same half.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
USO organizers meticulously planning a draw - as we speak - in which Djokovic gets Medvedev in QFs and Kyrgios In early round.
Druss
Hall of Fame
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
That's an irrelevant 0-2 given the context. Djoko will routine Nick in NY. Nick is worthless above the 500 level.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
They'll never get it. Will never happen. Because they want it so bad and because they rig draws more than any other slam, they are cursed and will never get this match.
Druss
Hall of Fame
I’d love to see that! Kyrgios would clear the way for Medv.
ibbi
G.O.A.T.
Medvedev is clearly not a guy he likes to play. Bautista Agut too. Medvedev did give him more trouble than anybody else in Australia which is something to take not of considering the gulf between beating him at bo3 and bo5 is wide as Marcus Willis. He definitely faded hardcore physically down under though, and who knows if things will have changed there.
Yesterday he beat him by going on the attack and being hyper aggressive, which is not his normal game, and not always guaranteed to work given its relatively lower percentage nature. Who is to say if he can replicate a performance like that again.
Though I do think if more of these young guys had the guts to play like that more often these old fellas would probably he hanging around a lot less.
Yesterday he beat him by going on the attack and being hyper aggressive, which is not his normal game, and not always guaranteed to work given its relatively lower percentage nature. Who is to say if he can replicate a performance like that again.
Though I do think if more of these young guys had the guts to play like that more often these old fellas would probably he hanging around a lot less.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
If there really was a conspiracy to make it easier for Roger, why wouldn't they have made the courts faster this year? That certainly could have been done to give Roger an advantage and diminish the chances of Novak and Rafa.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
They can't
Djokodal are top2
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
Fed was asked in Cinci and said he'd heard they were slightly faster than last year.
Suspect the important thing for him is the weather.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
As usual it's Federer and Nadal. Djokovic always raises his level in slams these days and his resilience becomes unpararelled. The issues he is having with Medvedev is worrying, but in bo5 Djokovic should solve him like in AO. Also Djokovic will ought to look for revenge cause losing 2 times in a row against the same guy pisses him off.
Fed and Nadal are the biggest threat to Djokovic, then Maybe Medvedev arrives into the picture.
Fed and Nadal are the biggest threat to Djokovic, then Maybe Medvedev arrives into the picture.
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
Yeah, in a slam Djoko definitely the favorite. I'm sure he'd to prefer to avoid him though as it would likely be a physically draining match, especially in the heat.
Druss
Hall of Fame
I just want to see one of the younger guys break through.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
This is exactly what I think will happen.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
I think they will draw federer, nadal in one half with djokovic having thiem, kyrgios, Medvedev in his half.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Almost identical to Bautista problems he had earlier in the year where he lost 2 matches being 1 set up. Looked to have major issues with his game but come Wimbledon he won pretty routinely and was never in danger. There is something about Djoko that lights up when the slam arrives.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
I think Medvedev problem shouldn't be looked in that way as djokovic seriously has matchup problems with Medvedev and Medvedev on a whole is playing well against most players and is very consistent.Still djokovic will be favoured in best of 5 but Medvedev has the weapons that geniunely trouble djokovic.Bautista agut also troubles djokovic but overall its easier to handle his game when he is on fire than meddy.
airchallenge2
Hall of Fame
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
All I say is true. Other inferior posters should learn from me.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
Is that who Kyrgios learned it from
Username_
Hall of Fame
Pfft Djokovic has a lot to learn from Kyrgios. Needs to drink before a Wimbledon match and go on court playing with a hangover i.e Kyrgios v Nadal 2019
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
None of this matters once we get to slam Novak, he's a different guy and could win with a draw of 2-8 ranked players for his 7 matches.
Remember after November when it was unironically talked about that he should hope Khachanov & Zverev don't land in his AO half because of what happened in Paris & London?
Remember after November when it was unironically talked about that he should hope Khachanov & Zverev don't land in his AO half because of what happened in Paris & London?
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer probably, if they meet.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
This is just something you made up and is not based on what the players and commentators said just this week in Cincy. Fed already said that Ljub was on Ashe last week and said the courts are slightly faster than last year with "not as much bounce." Gilbert said, "slow, but better than last year, balls sliding through without kick." The long-range weather forecast for the NYC area is also mild.
So basically your entire post is wrong on every single point.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Ofc...
He'll actually return serves unlike 2017 IW
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Because they'd risk ruining tennis as a whole. That wouldn't be in anyone's interest to bring us back into the 90s when aces and service winners decided nearly every match. Not even if it meant making RF fans happy.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Medvedev will beat Goffin, this much is certain, which will make him 5th seed.
1st seed vs 5th is an idiotic rule, but it does happen often. We'll have that nonsense again at USO.
1 vs 5
4 vs 8
Am I the only one who notices the utter illogic?
Should be
1 vs 8
4 vs 5
Otherwise you punish the no 1 for doing well. And you punish the no 5.
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
There are a number of events that have been faster than the USO in recent years. It has not ruined tennis as you suggest. Not sure about this year, but Cincinatti courts are usually faster than the USO. Shanghai, Paris, London and a number of others are typically faster.
Grass, in the 90s, was the biggest problem. However, he has been slowed to the extent that several hard court events appear to be faster than Wimbledon.
A number of other changes have been made since those short rally days of the 90s. Tennis balls are brighter and have a little bit more felt then they did 25+ years ago. Possibly more important, string technology has changed quite a bit. Along with these changes, stroke mechanics and playing styles have you evolved.
So it is doubtful that speeding up the US Open courts a bit will return us to the game of the 90s that were largely determined by service winners or return winners.
