Who's better at Wimbledon, 2022 Sinner, or 2005 Federer?

Who wins the Wimbledon match, 2005 Federer, or 2022 Sinner?


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Pheasant

Legend
The thread 2023 Sinner vs 2006 Federer at the WTF inspired this thread. I was amazed to see Sinner get as many votes as he did for a couple of reasons. 1. He hadn't even won the event yet while 2006 Federer was in the middle of winning 4 straight fast hard court WTF titles(2005 was played on carpet). 2. It's fast hardcourts, which is arguably Fed's best surface. But to be completely fair, tennis is constantly evolving, kind of like how most junior high schoolers nowadays could knock out peak Mike Tyson in the first round. Or how most of the centers on girls' high school teams would hold peak Wilt Chamberlain to 0 rebounds a game.

Now, let's look at Wimbledon. I chose 2005 as Fed's best Wimbledon run. He only dropped one set, a tiebreaker in the 3rd round. From there, he destroyed his next 4 opponents(3 were previous slam winners). In all, he held serve in 93.7% of his service games, yet still managed to win 40.2% of his return points. That breaks down to only dropping 7 games on his serve while breaking his opponents' serve 31 times. 2005 was arguably Fed's best Wimbledon.

However, in 2022, Sinner pushed Djokovic to 5 sets in the Wimbledon QF. ATG players named Van Rijhoven, Kyrgios, Norrie, and Kwon only managed to go 4 sets against Djokovic that year. Sinner was easily the 2nd best player in that tourney by winning TWICE as many sets against Djoker than the legends above. I think that this is solid evidence that Sinner has already peaked higher on grass than Federer ever did. And if we toss in evolution, it's a closed case. It's likely a straight-set win for Sinner with a couple of bread sticks thrown in.

What do you guys think?
 

RS

Bionic Poster
Nah the relative vs absolute doesn't apply to a tier 1 ATG compared to a very good player in the 2000s.

Obviously in 40-50 years time it might though.
 
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The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
But to be completely fair, tennis is constantly evolving
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nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Since this thread was to belittle Djokovic's competition, I have to chose Sinner.

I chose Federer that day for ATP finals.

But it seems like TTW members get frustrated after constant adulation of Nole and some weird Sinner worship by some players. So these threads which are very trashy keeps popping up.
 

Sputnik Bulgorov

Professional
Since this thread was to belittle Djokovic's competition, I have to chose Sinner.

I chose Federer that day for ATP finals.

But it seems like TTW members get frustrated after constant adulation of Nole and some weird Sinner worship by some players. So these threads which are very trashy keeps popping up.

I do think most people rate Sinner, Rune and Alcaraz pretty highly. At the very least, they’re given the benefit of the doubt because all of them are so young. However, the gap between them and Djokovic is too big for them to be considered his main competition. They will either be too young, or Djokovic will be too old. Djokovic’s main rivals from 21 to 23 have been Medvedev, Zverev and Tsitsipas, all of whom are rightly considered as weak competition for the GOAT.
 

Third Serve

Talk Tennis Guru
Tennis is constantly evolving.

Sinner takes this in a close 6-2 6-3 6-1 since 2005 Fed with his Lopez-like backhand and lack of physicality would hardly hope to compete against the fresh poking youngsters of today.

If this was peak 2019 Fed though, Fed could push one of the sets to a tiebreak.
 

dking68

Legend
Since this thread was to belittle Djokovic's competition, I have to chose Sinner.

I chose Federer that day for ATP finals.

But it seems like TTW members get frustrated after constant adulation of Nole and some weird Sinner worship by some players. So these threads which are very trashy keeps popping up.
2008 Nole vs 2022 Sinner at Wimbledon who wins?
 
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