Will you ever like someone betterer than Federer?

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Yeah. When someone that interests me comes along.

Thiem doesn't do it for me.
 
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Yeah. When someone that interests me comes along.
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Nope not going to happen for me.
I don't get it. How can one possibly say about the future ?

It's like saying you'll never fall in love again, and then, BAM, you do.

I was a fan of other players since about 79 or 80. But never as much as Fed. But then there wasn't a place like TW back then. Prior to joining this forum I was very balanced and rooted for the underdog. On at least two occasions I rooted for Djokovic against Federer. Unthinkable today, because of the polarizing environment here. Federer won both those encounters and I was upset !

It will be difficult, I know, but the possibility is always there.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Prior to joining this forum I was very balanced and rooted for the underdog. On at least two occasions I rooted for Djokovic against Federer. Unthinkable today, because of the polarizing environment here. Federer won both those encounters and I was upset !

It will be difficult, I know, but the possibility is always there.

I rooted for Mischa at AO mainly because he was the underdog and also because I loved his style and had wished Fed would also S&V again (though his reasons for not doing so as much as MZ are very rational). But I didn't mention it here.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I rooted for Mischa at AO mainly because he was the underdog and also because I loved his style and had wished Fed would also S&V again (though his reasons for not doing so as much as MZ are very rational). But I didn't mention it here.
Yeah, I love watching MZ, and also others like Llodra, and a couple others, too.
 

Mr Feeny

Hall of Fame
Tennis was here long before Federer, and it shall be here long after he has gone.

So be it.

Yeah. I'm surprised by the number of people definitively stating that they're never going to like another player more than their idol.
Someone always comes along who's interesting. You can always move on to another all time great who comes along and plays just as gracefully (albeit in different ways ) than your guy. Maybe with Federer, it's a little difficult to imagine such a player right now but there someone always comes along.

When Dr J retired, Michael Jordan came along. When Sampras was aging, a younger Federer was coming into his own. When Hulk Hogan retired, a young Dwyane Johnson came in.

That's the way sport, and fake sports, work.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I can't say I'll never like another player better than Federer because I can't foretell the future but at the moment there's absolutely nobody I see out of the younger generations who holds a candle to him. They don't have the talent/shots, they definitely don't have his grace and they don't have what appears to be his unearthly love and respect for the game and don't seem to want the responsibility of being the top dog. Who wants to watch these middling players win nothing? Not me and I don't watch that.

In all seriousness, without Federer and Nadal around, it will be a depressing sport unless some of these youngsters step up and decide to carry on as a role model/ambassador of the sport. None of those younger players seem up to it and none of them are especially likeable.
 

Artist

Rookie
It's impossoble to predict what will happen in the future but one thing I do know for sure, it will take an incredibly special player to ever overtake Federer for me.
 

Druss

Hall of Fame
Tennis is a constantly changing sport as we know. Champions come and go, and we all love our favorite players from whichever generation we grew up with. I grew up while Sampras was on his way out and love his relentlessly attacking forward moving game. He made playing the net look so simple and easy. Then of course came Roger, and I started warming up to him around 2007, and have been a Fed fan ever since.

We've seen a few champions rise since Federer's peak, such as Nadal and Djokovic. Most of us Fed fans haven't been persuaded to move on to either, and I can understand why. For me, neither Nadal nor Djokovic has the completeness of Federer's arsenal, the fullness of his mind, or the perfection of his performance. I often wonder if I would move on if another player with a similarly perfect game started dominating. I never thought I would move past Sampras, then aging Agassi, but did both times.

So my question is if another player came along, dethroned Federer (like Fed did Sampras), and ALSO had a beautiful game and dominated, would you be able to move past Federer and embrace the new King or is Roger your once and future king?

I could only do it once Federer retires, just like I went from Agassi to Fed in late 2005. I am too passionate a fan to have any sort of motivation to follow anyone else in the same vein.
 

Eggshen

New User
Don't worry. It's the age of the spin it in baseliners so it's much easier for a few guys to dominate since everyone basically plays the same. Someone else will come along and start winning lots of trophies and you guys can jump on the bandwagon and add in things like style and personality as reasons. Even tho we know its the winning you like.
 

Roddick85

Hall of Fame
It depends. When you look at the sub-part "failed generation" that followed Federer, it's hard to become invested and root for any of them given the sub par effort and lack of dedication. When Fed retires, someone will eventually rise. It might take a while before it happens, but it should. If I survived Sampras/Agassi's retirement, I'll survive Fedalovic going away as well.
 

Talker

Hall of Fame
Nice. Someone with a current fav because of how they play and not their results. Hope Del Po can get it together for the Open. May be a tough draw for someone early.

I'm always watching for a DelPo breakthrough, a period where things go right for him.

I'd like a good showing at the USO, Washington is next on his schedule so that should give some indication where his game is.
 

Jackuar

Hall of Fame
What the **** are you on about ? Sportspeople do all that to make money. The nicer they are the more money they make. And what does God have to do with anything ??!! Really ?

Is Federer a role model when he says his opponent got lucky after he loses ? When he uses an injury as an excuse for a loss ? When he puts all his humility on display to say that he is talented ??

Role models should be your family or close friends, people you actually know not some guy who swings a racquet that you don't even know.

Sounds like you're b u t t h u r t with his success and you think you deserve a crumb out of the pie for being anyone's fan. Just because he got success he shouldn't make money is it? You may not be a fan of sportsperson, but tell me if you are not a fan of any actor, any person who is successful - a scientist, a politician, a friend, anyone..? I don't get what your problem is - them being nicer or them making money? And what are you hurt of - mentioning humanity or God? I think you don't care about both because you don't believe in either. Tell me there is no single person you look up to ? You say family should be role models - tell that to someone who father was a drug addict and mother was wayward. You'd still say that? I don't think so. There's no rule that says looking beyond your family is wrong? Is there an obligation that I should always look upto my mom and dad and ignore people who are successful in life, consider them and the way they've come up as a motivation ?

So to be a role model Fed should always say that he played bad whenever he loses? and never quote any injury and always downplay his talent? Your argument is absurd, you're expecting him to say "Ya I'm not good enough, I sucked". Why should he when he firmly believes that he played better than what the result actually says? If he thinks that his opponent got lucky at crucial points to take away the match, so what? He becomes all of a sudden a bad model because he didn't say what you expect? Give me a break.

This is what F spreads apart from tennis.:

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"Ambassadors of humanity", give me a break!

:D

Why don't you start with yourself, sell your riches, distribute them 100% to poor and live equally with anyone and everyone. As if any successful person doesn't deserve to enjoy his cake. You seem to say all successful people are selfish and anything they should do to be called "humane" is to throw away all his money and show that he doesn't care about money.

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Geez, people!
 

newpball

Legend
Why don't you start with yourself, sell your riches, distribute them 100% to poor and live equally with anyone and everyone. As if any successful person doesn't deserve to enjoy his cake. You seem to say all successful people are selfish and anything they should do to be called "humane" is to throw away all his money and show that he doesn't care about money.

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Geez, people!
You are jumping into conclusions that are founded on quicksand. What F should do with his money and image is entirely up to him. Having money I find not intrinsically wrong or immoral.

However do I think he is a good role model exposing himself like that?
I say no, he is as much as a good role model as some rapper with a Ferrari with some half naked women talking about doing drugs.

Modesty, my friend, I find a virtue.
Look at a man like Warren Buffet, he is over 150 times as rich as F, yes, 150 F's still do not match this man's net worth.
But is this man showing off his riches?

:D
 

Purplemonster

Hall of Fame
Sounds like you're b u t t h u r t with his success and you think you deserve a crumb out of the pie for being anyone's fan. Just because he got success he shouldn't make money is it? You may not be a fan of sportsperson, but tell me if you are not a fan of any actor, any person who is successful - a scientist, a politician, a friend, anyone..? I don't get what your problem is - them being nicer or them making money? And what are you hurt of - mentioning humanity or God? I think you don't care about both because you don't believe in either. Tell me there is no single person you look up to ? You say family should be role models - tell that to someone who father was a drug addict and mother was wayward. You'd still say that? I don't think so. There's no rule that says looking beyond your family is wrong? Is there an obligation that I should always look upto my mom and dad and ignore people who are successful in life, consider them and the way they've come up as a motivation ?

So to be a role model Fed should always say that he played bad whenever he loses? and never quote any injury and always downplay his talent? Your argument is absurd, you're expecting him to say "Ya I'm not good enough, I sucked". Why should he when he firmly believes that he played better than what the result actually says? If he thinks that his opponent got lucky at crucial points to take away the match, so what? He becomes all of a sudden a bad model because he didn't say what you expect? Give me a break.



Why don't you start with yourself, sell your riches, distribute them 100% to poor and live equally with anyone and everyone. As if any successful person doesn't deserve to enjoy his cake. You seem to say all successful people are selfish and anything they should do to be called "humane" is to throw away all his money and show that he doesn't care about money.

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Geez, people!

Didn't read what you wrote, way too long and if it's anything like the previous post you wrote it's probably more garbage.
 

Jackuar

Hall of Fame
However do I think he is a good role model exposing himself like that?
I say no, he is as much as a good role model as some rapper with a Ferrari with some half naked women talking about doing drugs.

Modesty, my friend, I find a virtue.
Look at a man like Warren Buffet, he is over 150 times as rich as F, yes, 150 F's still do not match this man's net worth.
But is this man showing off his riches?

:D

Ok, so he makes money by the sponsors and doing his obligatory shoots as part of his sponsorships is wrong? Or a magazine wants to cover him in their issue and him posing for that is wrong? Do you think a rapper hanging with naked women, booze and doze is worth looking up to and equal to someone who sets an example of balancing professional life, family and charity? Great standards, good luck!

As for Buffet not showing off his riches, please, enjoy the gallery here. Some people show off their riches without putting their face up front, and you're willing to believe them modest.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ant-50th-anniversary-event.html?frame=3289138
 

Purplemonster

Hall of Fame
You are jumping into conclusions that are founded on quicksand. What F should do with his money and image is entirely up to him. Having money I find not intrinsically wrong or immoral.

However do I think he is a good role model exposing himself like that?
I say no, he is as much as a good role model as some rapper with a Ferrari with some half naked women talking about doing drugs.

Modesty, my friend, I find a virtue.
Look at a man like Warren Buffet, he is over 150 times as rich as F, yes, 150 F's still do not match this man's net worth.
But is this man showing off his riches?

:D

Clever post.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
If someone plays as beautifully as Fed and dominated like him, we can move on from Fed.

But chances of such a player emerging is 0%

No, it's not 0%, it's closer to 100% unless tennis dies as a sport and goes the way of Latin tomorrow.

The issue is time, and whether we'll see someone like Federer within our lifetimes, which is a complete unknown.


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cronus

Professional
Winning in blue clay is the greatest and toughest challenge in the history of tennis, this also happens to be a one of a kind event which wont ever happen again and by that logic Federer has infinite slams according many experts.

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Prabhanjan

Professional
Young boy: Becker
Clay champ: Nadal
Clay-grass switch: Borg
Smash-dunk shot: Sampras
Second Serve: Sampras
Ace: Ivanesevic
Taking-the-ball-on-rise: Agassi/Djokovic

And many other cases where others are certainly more likable than Fed.
 

Prabhanjan

Professional
Young boy: Becker
Clay champ: Nadal
Clay-grass switch: Borg
Smash-dunk shot: Sampras
Second Serve: Sampras
Ace: Ivanesevic
Taking-the-ball-on-rise: Agassi/Djokovic

And many other cases where others are certainly more likable than Fed.
 

cronus

Professional
it's good to be in the front page
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But never in the history of mankind some one said they got a piece of banana stuck in their throat, it looked totally legit including uncle tony's expressions.

 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
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But never in the history of mankind some one said they got a piece of banana stuck in their throat, it looked totally legit including uncle tony's expressions.


Fed's 'bee sting incident': "I just wanted to speak to the trainer..."
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LOL
at the beginning of the bio passport era
 
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cronus

Professional
Fed's 'bee sting incident': "I just wanted to speak to the trainer..."
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LOL
at the beginning of the bio passport era


Even if i take your inability to read the "English" news column properly bee sting still sounds more legit than choking on a banana.
 

cronus

Professional
Fed has wanted to speak/talk/chat during a match. Another example:

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lol! your come back is even worse than the so called Raafa's 2017 Wimbledon, i am posting a never before heard incident like "choking on a banana" with a video and you are posting Roger "wanted to" "tried to" "talk to" ? if we go by this trend all of your allegations will fit into one title " Life and career of Raafa".
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
lol! your come back is even worse than the so called Raafa's 2017 Wimbledon, i am posting a never before heard incident like "choking on a banana" with a video and you are posting Roger "wanted to" "tried to" "talk to" ? if we go by this trend all of your allegations will fit into one title " Life and career of Raafa".

I posted Fed's 'bee sting incident'.
 
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