not sure if the AG 4D 100's for me. might have to put them up on the FS section.
I just tried out poly main and multi cross (sppp 123/addiction 17) for the first time on my 4D 100 and it just got mush real fast, almost in the same day. Does anyone know if this is normal for the setup or for the strings?
How does multi main and poly cross perform for your 100's?
B5E mains and syngut/multi crosses plays fine. multi mains & poly crosses don't work for me tho in the 100 or other sticks.
Isn't that very similar to Gut/Poly? But why? Very lack of durability?
Anyone using full bed natural gut with the 4D 100? What tension and brand?
How do you like it? thanks
i gave the 4D 100's a month and it just didn't work.
went back to my maxply mcenroe's.
i find the AG4D 100 to defintely be more headlight and a quicker swing...i have the BIOME 100 and it does som ething s in some situations better. forehands are more powerful, serve is more powerful though less precise for me. i have dunlops leather grip on my AG4D 100 and that bumps the statice weight to 11.98 ounces , heaver than my BIOME 100 and it still swings faster.this player doesn't find the 4D100 stiff but comfortable and gives good shot feedback. haven't tried the Bio 100 so can't comment.
You should post this question in the TW Questions/Comments forum.Do you guys know if TW will be getting more shipments of the Bio 100 after the current batch goes out?
I agree. I think the tension range should have been 50-60lbs. I think it plays great between 53-56lbs with a hybrid of multi mains and mono syn gut crosses.
I gave them a year. Just never really caught on with them. Sad... I wanted to like them.
And, of course, I pulled them out of the closet today... and played fine. Really, it's a matter of taste, but I find that the 4D100 is rather string sensitive. Dead feeling strings just don't cut it. Hitting the sweetspot isn't really the problem, and the balance, even stock, is fine.
I like poly (spinny - not SPPP) mains and multi (powerful - not Dunlop Hexy) crosses in the mid to upper 50s.
Thanks for the info.After taking the "NEW" length (shortened to 26+13/16 inches after two hours of stringing = 26.8125") into account with new balance and measuring, after adding leather to the Teal Bio 100, I am now getting the SW of 333, 324, 324, and 324.
I re-did the test for the Green Bio 100 as well with the new length measurement and now getting a SW of 324, 312, 324, 320, and 318; comes to an average of ~320.
So forget the balance of the rackets while unstrung with bare handle I did on my previous post (I call it "naked" weight and balance), because I'm not taking it all apart again. Not in a long time I think.
Well.....there you have it the Green and Teal Bio 100 is very similar after all. I feel a lot better now. LOL.
Thanks for the info.
I just measured the length of two of by strung green Bio 100s and one is 26 7/8" and the other is 26 15/16".
I'm not sure how the TW SW calculator works since I have never used it, but I guess when you plug in a shorter total length with the same balance point (which is measured from the butt cap), you are effectively moving the balance point a bit closer to the top of the hoop? If so, I guess that would make the racquet a bit less headlight and thereby the results of the swingweight calculation would be a bit higher than if you had used 27" as the total length? I assume you don't have access to a RDC machine, right?
BTW, have you played with both the green and the teal versions side-by-side yet? If so, or when you do, please let us know if you feel any differences between the two, especially the swingweight and the flex.
Thanks.
Does everyone add lead to the Bio 100?
The Bio 100 Green is for sale on TW at a great super low price. Too bad it's only in L3. :twisted::twisted:
All gone, both US and Euro versions!
Best deal... Something similar was London Tours for $50.
What else have you played with?
I snatched the 5th to the last one. Only 1 :evil::evil: as collection. Hopefully the teal will be easy to find 6 months from now.
Prince Mono (stolen or I would have kept playing with it) Graphene Speed (nice for serves and volleys, not much everywhere else) before that a PSC clone, Prestige clone and currently with a Max 200G.
And I should add that I don't like hanging around the baseline too much.
Hi CHOcobo, seems you got quite a few bio 100 sticks. Are you interested in letting go a few frames, or maybe a single one. I'm looking for a 4 3/8 grip, whatever version , EU or US in a fairly good condition 8+ (out of 10).
Thanks
Well, when I'm playing singles, I do like to hang around the baseline. I have two 4D100's, one gripped with leather and one with synthetic. The leather grip added some stability but doesn't radically change the racquet - I keep them that way because the difference is noticeable.
Solid on serve, but less dwell time than my London Tours so I struggle when my stroke isn't on - that said, I am known as a streaky server, so I can struggle on serve with any stick - I just struggle more with the 4D100.
Groundies are nice with this stick. My backhand is one-handed and pretty flat, so I almost never shank. My forehand is much more topspin oriented, so I really have to focus on timing because the racquet is narrow, and it's easier to have off days.
Volleys are solid if you can hit the strings. I never feel overpowered, but I play at 4.0/4.5 so it's not like anyone is hitting that hard.
The sticks are just nice, have a solid feel, and are fun to play with. There are times when I long for more dwell time, which is when I switch to something more flexible, but I tend to vacillate. If you're used to playing headlight mids, you will like the 4D100. It's just a matter of mood and feel for me. Pretty much all my racquets have similar balance and weight - it just comes down to feel. The 4D100 is crisp compared to my other sticks: M-Fil 200, NXG Mid, London Tour. Sometimes I really like that feel.
How do you compare London Tour to Bio 100? Which one do you use more you think? I am in similar situation. Love the flexible feel of the London Tour but feel like Bio 100 moves faster through the air (Bio 100 feels narrower even though it's just 19mm and 90in2 vs. 19.5mm and 93in2 for London Tour).
IMP London Tour is more arm friendly by a large margin. But Bio 100 has that crisp feel and with it I feel more confident changing the shot in the very last moment.
What are your thoughts?
What do you love/hate about it?
I would suggest stringing your racquet looser to get more depth when on defense.I love it when I have the initiative on the rally . . . hate it when I am on the defensive as I need a full swing--which I don't always have time for-- to make sure the ball goes deep, otherwise it goes short.
Great on offense, not so much on defense.
I'm 5'7" 133 lbs, there have been more than a few instances when I wished I had a more powerful racket to be able to go toe to toe with some power hitters.
Will string racket with Biphase X-One this coming Thursday to address this power issue.
I would suggest stringing your racquet looser to get more depth when on defense.
Nope, not at all. I have lots of lead on the bumps and it sticks just as well as on any other frame.So ive been using the 4d100 for the past year and just recently switched to bio 100, and i was wondering if anyone has had problems with putting lead on the silly cosmetic bumps around the frame. Normally i put around 20+ grams at 12, so i was worried that the lead might fly off as it has happened with the 4D, that was until i mastered putting the damn thing on lol. BTW if you think putting 20+ grams on the hoop is extreme i have a leather grip and fill whole handle inside with cured silicone to compensate.... great setup IMO!!