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Nathaniel_Near
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Has one player ever won more than 17 Grand Slam titles?
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AO 2015 - QF - R.Nadal vs. T.Berdych
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jm1980
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SpicyCurry1990
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Laver has 19 slams and Rosewall 23 ;-)
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King Fed WW
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Does Novak really win 3 US Opens when the hard courts are faster?
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Nathaniel_Near
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Djokovic doesn't even have a sniff of Federer at the US Open even hypothetically speaking. There's simply no excusing the 1 out of 5 record. Djokovic just isn't that good at the US Open, it's the AO where he's so awesome. Federer is substantially better overall than Djokovic on that sort of pace of court career wise and clearly Djokovic has the edge on slower hard courts... it's as clear as the difference between night and day regardless of any pseudo-logical and unsatisfactory hypothetical scenarios.
Fed > Nole on faster HC
Nole > Fed on slower HC
Overall, Nole has chances to have a resume as good as Fed's on HC.. he could go on to win 4 more Slams for example and they might all be at the HC Slams, though one hopes for a RG title at some point.
Fed > Nole on faster HC
Nole > Fed on slower HC
Overall, Nole has chances to have a resume as good as Fed's on HC.. he could go on to win 4 more Slams for example and they might all be at the HC Slams, though one hopes for a RG title at some point.
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Nathaniel_Near
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Nope, I said Grand Slam titles and was very careful to do so. We all know there are male players who have won more than 17 Majors (in men's singles competition).
Tuskarr
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Nothing but pouting in last year's aus open final when things werent going his way. This year's aus open final was more of the same.
Some fighter...
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Nathaniel_Near
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Djokovic is a HC beast so many make the assumption that means on all HC types, but he truly has a clear preference for the slower varieties and Federer for the faster varieties which is clear upon observing their career statistics. I'm fair to Djokovic - he whoops any version of Federer at the AO plexicushion including any peak iterations way more often than not. Of course, there are many Federer fans who disagree but they're wrong. :lol:
swordtennis
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Well I am in between Curry and Nathanatu. He has had some cursed luck at the USO. I think he should be at 2 USO titles. Djokovic does well on faster courts as long as they are moderate bounce. Not too low not too high. Federer does better on the two extremes. Prob around equal on the moderate.
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If Djoker converts his two USO losses to Rafa to wins, that's three titles in total for him.
Fed still has five, and had to face many good players, including Djokovic, for those titles.
Fed vs Djokovic argument wasn't my goal here anyway.
I was simply saying that Djokovic is usually sub-par at the USO, thus the Nadal losses and Murray/Nishikori etc. losses, which may not have happened at, say, the AO.
Legend of Borg
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rafa's english is sounding good
Chanwan
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I wouldn't count on it.The good thing about this Nadal loss is that it will finally shut up tennis_commentator and all that nonsense he repeats over and over!
TheMusicLover
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I read in the paper over here that getting beaten 18 times in a row would have been a record. Taking into account the drivel that usually gets posted in the newspapers over here when it comes to tennis, I wouldn't count on it being accurate. So I don't know.
17... yeah it appears to be a magical number. If I'm not mistaken, Haase lost 17 TBs in a row and he's the record holder for that account. :lol:
Perhaps it's written in the stars, haha, but I'd say, it should be 42.
Steve0904
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I agree. If he's anything like the infamous NADALRECORD the losses don't matter. It just makes Nadal stronger apparently. I don't think he's even a Nadal fan tbh.
pame
Hall of Fame
One win? Hasn't Berdych won 4 times against Nadal?
Homeboy Hotel
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I just have to profoundly apologise for my above comments and my gross error of judgement.
Congrats Tomas.
As you were, gentlemen...
West Coast Ace
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Ignore her. She doesn't know anything about tennis; just an overheated female fangirl.
Yes, Berdych won a few times early in Nadal's career.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
He was 3-1 up when the 17-match slide started, all wins at HC Masters (one indoors @Madrid). Nadal's win was on clay @Bastad in their first meeting.
sillymonkey
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Well since Rafa is my favorite, this was a tough loss. Even though we all knew he wasn't in top form. It does seem that he has become so injury-plagued that it's hampered his overall game/confidence significantly.
I do hope he can regroup and do better in the near future and of course for the clay season.
I have had [for a while now] some nagging thought that he may retire soon? I hope my instincts are off.
I do hope he can regroup and do better in the near future and of course for the clay season.
I have had [for a while now] some nagging thought that he may retire soon? I hope my instincts are off.
To me for awhile now it seems like Nadal has reverted back to default settings. As in to his playstyle when he first was transitioning from a clay courter to other surfaces. All his balls now, forehand and backhand appear to be his weaknesses. Opponents even lower tier guys are just ripping into them as they have no pace and too much pure top spin now.
abmk
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If I had to choose one word to reply to your post : "ghanta" ...ya, go google it up ...
federer would've taken atleast 2 out of 3 USO matches vs nadal, not 1
djokovic's consistency is similar to federer's , but peak isn't near federer's at the USO ...and lets not even get into wind, heat etc ....
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terribleIVAN
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Based on what ?
Last time i checked, USO is outdoors, not indoors.
And Fed's still a mental midget against Rafa.
He might not even won a single final if the Wimbledon 2008 Rafa shows up.
Murrayfan31
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Not surprising. Nadal looks done.
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King Fed WW
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Sub-par or the conditions are less favorable him?
movdqa
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I watched the match this morning and this is the best I've seen him play. I think that he had no double-faults and his confidence, even when he lost a few points, was the strongest I've seen.
I'm definitely sold on the value of coaching consultants, from what I've seen with Federer, Murray and now Berdych.
I'm definitely sold on the value of coaching consultants, from what I've seen with Federer, Murray and now Berdych.
Chanwan
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I had forgotten NR! God was he annoying. Not sure about T_c, he's a troll, but I think he's a fan nevertheless.
It's all about how deep he hits them imo. When they land short (inside or near the service line), they are sitting ducks. When they land deep (within 1,5 meter from the baseline), they are still pushing the opponents backwards and making attacking tennis very hard to perform consistently.
The less confident Rafa is, the more he retreats behind the baseline (look at his receiving stand vs. Berdych!!) and, typically, the less depth he'll have on his shots.
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dParis
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There are drugs for that too.
Murrayfan31
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Nadal needs to roid up again. He has lost some of his power.
gerrysbland
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LOL that is funny (and probably true).
Michael88
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The good thing about this Nadal loss is that it will finally shut up tennis_commentator and all that nonsense he repeats over and over!
LOL, wasn't he saying he bet all his money on Nadal? I wonder which street he's sleeping on :lol:
I read in the paper over here that getting beaten 18 times in a row would have been a record. Taking into account the drivel that usually gets posted in the newspapers over here when it comes to tennis, I wouldn't count on it being accurate. So I don't know.
17... yeah it appears to be a magical number. If I'm not mistaken, Haase lost 17 TBs in a row and he's the record holder for that account. :lol:
Perhaps it's written in the stars, haha, but I'd say, it should be 42.
Yes, during the match they showed at least 3 other streaks of that length, I remember Connors vs Lendl was one of them, to my surprise, but 17 seems to be definitely to be the magic number for them to end.
TheMusicLover
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tennis_commentator aka N S K aka TDK aka bullsh*tzilla aka NADALRECORD aka... the entire army. :lol:
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Did he say that? I really try and skip over his posts most of the time. I don't think he is all there if you know what I mean.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Jimmy Connors was the wrong side of 32 at that time. Connors led Lendl 13-5 in the head-to-head when he was 32, and then Lendl won 17 in a row with the head-to-head finishing at 22-13 to Lendl. Ivan Lendl was also 17-0 against Tim Mayotte, and 16-0 against Brad Gilbert.
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
Did he say that? I really try and skip over his posts most of the time. I don't think he is all there if you know what I mean.
Took me some time to dig it up, but yes, he did:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Murrayfan31
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Like I was saying.
furryballs
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nadal has been "down on power" for quite some time now it seems.....just after US open 2013 he has been weakening steadily.
Boom-Boom
Legend
Don't worry he's probably doing it (see weird physical state vs Smyczek) but effects on a 29 yo drained and rusty body aren't exactly the same as before.
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