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Fred's draw is a damn joke. How can someone be this lucky?!!!
Ace away from beating Djokovic in a Slam final last month.
Not a threat to Djokovic.
Only in your world.
How exactly? Med will probably not even make it that far. Other than that I don't see any threats. Thiem would be much more dangerous for him as a semifinal opponent than Federer.I think in terms of difficulty it's Djokovic, then Federer = Nadal. Big reason for Federer being equal with Nadal being he has to face 2 of the big 3. But given that Federer is seeded #3 and was already guaranteed for that to be the case, this is the easiest draw possible for him (if he plans on winning it that is). Nadal fans should be happy too as only having to face one of Federer/Djokovic boosts his odds of winning by quite a bit. Djokovic = maybe one of the worst draws possible given the circumstances.
You’re right. Thiem , Kachanov and Cilic worry me , But I don’t they will make it
The thing is Nadal actually has a hard draw. It's just that we already know he usually wipes the floor with anyone other than Fed and Djoker when healthy.
Thiem and Verdasco are players who can play on hardcourt. Last year Nadal-Thiem was the match of the tournament. Djokovic used to struggle against them as well from time to time. Federer is not a threat for him for years now. When was the last time Federer actually beat him? Oh right, in 2015, and that was a match which Djokovic probably tanked.Lol. Exactly. In this world cooked and overplayed Thiem with next to zero hardcourt preparation and Verdasco are much more huge threats.
I actually agree here. Still, at his age, nothing is a given anymore.another cuppycake draw for federer
Fed and Nadal haven't been on opposite halves since last year's US OpenIs this the 20th something time that Federer and Djokovic meet in Slam SF while Nadal get some other randos? I remember there was a thread on this.
It is, but Djoker and rafa get easy draws all the time too. Then again, can a draw really be that hard these days.Fred's draw is a damn joke. How can someone be this lucky?!!!
Not sure all Nadal's potential opponents will reach him. But if they do (like it happened last year) then that might become a very tough draw.I think all three of them got tricky draws. Federer has Pouille and Goffin pretty early. Both are in pretty good form.
Nadals draw seems tough to me. He escaped Federer but he got Verdasco early, Isner/Cilic 4th round, Khachanov QFs and Thiem in SFs. Not easy. Kokk 2nd round, a Good player on his Day and has the game.
Federer though IMO got off the easiest. Pretty good draw till SFs compared to djok and ned
Thiem and Verdasco are players who can play on hardcourt. Last year Nadal-Thiem was the match of the tournament. Djokovic used to struggle against them as well from time to time. Federer is not a threat for him for years now. When was the last time Federer actually beat him? Oh right, in 2015, and that was a match which Djokovic probably tanked.
How exactly? Med will probably not even make it that far. Other than that I don't see any threats. Thiem would be much more dangerous for him as a semifinal opponent than Federer.
Federer is a worse threat than Thiem. And I said "given the circumstances." So I challenge you to make a more difficult draw under these circumstances. Maybe you can be it's not gonna be much worse than this.How exactly? Med will probably not even make it that far. Other than that I don't see any threats. Thiem would be much more dangerous for him as a semifinal opponent than Federer.
Last time they met on hardcourt was in 2016 though. Back then Thiem couldn't even push Djokovic on clay. And about "terrible form"-well, last year Thiem dramatically improved for USO and pushed Nadal to the limits. If he can do that again then he might become a threat.Thiem has won like one set against Djokovic in hardcourt. The only times he has threatened Djokovic is on clay. I can't even remember the last time Verdasco beat Djokovic so no. Also, Thiem is in terrible form. He has overplayed a bunch of clay tournaments after Wimbledon and he has nothing left. He'll be lucky to even make the second week. It's bananas saying they are tougher for him than Federer.
okay w/e works for you.It's funny but it's true.
Federer is a worse threat than Thiem. And I said "given the circumstances." So I challenge you to make a more difficult draw under these circumstances. Maybe you can be it's not gonna be much worse than this.
okay w/e works for you.
So we agree yeah? By 'worse' I meant Federer is the more dangerous threat to Djoker than Thiem, and that is before taking into account that Thiem probably won't make it that far anyway.Thiem lost R1 at Wimbledon. He's a big threat but also far less likely to reach the SF.
Lol I don't have to convince you, you already know which is why your tone is sour. He's epic, it's ok!
Last time they met on hardcourt was in 2016 though. Back then Thiem couldn't even push Djokovic on clay. And about "terrible form"-well, last year Thiem dramatically improved for USO and pushed Nadal to the limits. If he can do that again then he might become a threat.
My point is that Thiem at least potentially has the game which can trouble Djokovic. If he plays his best that can be a match. Federer on the other hand is completely out of ideas in this matchup and Djokovic is in his head. After Wimbledon it probably got even worse.
annoyingly inaccurate doesn't even begin to cover your posts.
Yeah, like Djokovic never struggled against big hitters on hardcourt? Good that Wawrinka doesn't read your BS. Against last year's Thiem Djokovic would at least have problems.He didn't do.a
Saying Thiem is more of a threat than Federer on a faster hardcourt is fantasy, especially given that he is fatigued right now. He might trouble Nadal on a slower hardcourt but he has yet to push Djokovic on any hardcourt. Until that happens, he is not the kind of threat that Federer is for Djokovic.
Not on a faster hardcourt he doesn't. Djokovic is not Nadal on hardcourt, something you don't seem to realize.
Federer who didn't beat Djokovic for more than 4 years (I don't count that WTF match which Djokovic tanked. In the final we saw who is the better player) and who was just destroyed by Rublev. Sure.Just to make it clear, Thiem FOR SURE would be a threat to Djokovic here, but Fed a lot more so.
Yeah, like Djokovic never struggled against big hitters on hardcourt? Good that Wawrinka doesn't read your BS. Against last year's Thiem Djokovic would at least have problems.
Sad that Djokovic fans believe that he is a god who loses only when he is injured/tanks/mentally broken (LOL!)/doesn't care/in terrible form. According to you these are the only reasons why he ever lost a match in his career. And I didn't even write that Thiem would definitely beat him.
A beast on faster hardcourt who was just destroyed by Rublev in arguably the fastest conditions in the current tour? Djokovic lost in Cincinnati as well, but at least he lost to a good player, and in a close match.You must not realize Thiem is good on slow hardcourt but not fast. They said the conditioms are faster this year. That is not good for Thiem's game, and he certainly isn't Wawrinka on hardcourt at I don't know what you are trying to prove with that comparison. Djokovic would not have needed 5 sets to defeat last year's Thiem. I am 95% sure of that.
No one is saying any of this make believe you are talking but it sure ain't Thiem that Djokovic would be shaking in his boots over, especially compared to Federer who is a beast in faster hardcourt conditions. Sorry if I am not going along with this just so you can make Nadal's draw seem harder.
I don't recall Thiem beating Djokovic on hardcourt in his entire lifespan? Let alone in a HC GS SF.Federer who didn't beat Djokovic for more than 4 years (I don't count that WTF match which Djokovic tanked. In the final we saw who is the better player) and who was just destroyed by Rublev. Sure.
Cilic is in terrible form this year. If Nadal can't beat current Cilic then he doesn't deserve to even reach the 1/4 finals.In Nadal’s path, R3 Verdasco has always had upset potential. If it’s Isner that ends up in round 4 then you’re right until the SF, but if it’s Cilic then that’s a tough 4th round match. People seem to forget that Cilic is usually a deep competitor in all majors, very consistent. Thiem is also a threat to Nadal even though Rafa has had his number, but I don’t think Thiem is going that deep to begin with. Great draw for him, hopefully he stays healthy because he *should* be in the final based off of his form in recent USO’s.
Federer has a pretty easy path although Goffin and Nishikori could at least push him even though they will lose. That might be bad for Fed’s energy going into the Djokovic match.
Djokovic might get a little pressured by Querrey but after that he will cruise. Wawrinka isn’t that great and I don’t think he stands a chance against Novak.
A beast on faster hardcourt who was just destroyed by Rublev in arguably the fastest conditions in the current tour? Djokovic lost in Cincinnati as well, but at least he lost to a good player, and in a close match.
By the way, I didn't even mention Nadal's draw. I am talking about who is tougher for Djokovic. Right now I don't see how mentally broken Federer might be a threat to him.
I agree, Nadal should be in the finals barring a physical breakdown. But, Cilic is still decent at the USO and if he doesn’t get upset he might get some confidence with a “nothing to lose” mentality against Nadal.Cilic is in terrible form this year. If Nadal can't beat current Cilic then he doesn't deserve to even reach the 1/4 finals.
Fred's draw is a damn joke. How can someone be this lucky?!!!
Federer will be out in 3rd round..pouille or evans will take him out.
R4: Wawrinka
QF: Medvedev
SF: Federer
F: Nadal
Holy ****. Can't get harder than this. If he wins the tournament, this should count as 2 GS titles.
R4: Wawrinka
QF: Medvedev
SF: Federer
F: Nadal
Holy ****. Can't get harder than this. If he wins the tournament, this should count as 2 GS titles.