nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Let's see. He has a lot of time so it's possible. But this year RG he is big favorite.
Dimitrov v Sinner Miami 2024 Final
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dking68
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He can win Roland sure, but the last piece of the puzzle - Australian Open, it will be very difficult for him to win. He plays with too much topspin and people like Medvedev, Zverev and Sinner, especially Sinner will defeat him on those low bouncing fast surfaces. If a mug like Dimitrov nearly gave Alcaraz 3 games, he ain’t winning Australian anytime soon. Even Nole in 2008 was better at Miami than Alcaraz
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Dimitrov is not mug. He is just part of the lost gen. He is just a notch below Medvedev Zverev.
But yes he did hand a big blow to Alcaraz. But that was this year. Raz has a lot of time at his hand.
dking68
Legend
And Nadal, tbh, Federer choked that AO 2009 final. He should’ve won it. Nadal shouldn’t even have won AO 2022 but such is life. I actually think if Federer didn’t have the pressure of equaling Sampras he would’ve defeated Nadal in AO 2009 in straights
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think so. Straight up fight and Nadal at disadvantage but he won. Federer couldn't stop him.
dking68
Legend
Either way Alcaraz game is poor for Australian Open. He needs to change his game if he wants to win.
Apun94
Hall of Fame
Quantifiable? Show me the stats to support your argument.
It's not nostalgia if it's true. Again, obviously this is my opinion and not a fact. So is your "opinion" which is definitely not quantifiable.
Pls give me something otherwise Ill keep thinking youre needy because you literally thanked me when I praised Djokovic (which just shows youre desperate that people praise Djokovic, brother). I still have a soft spot for you because i know youre better than this
Apun94
Hall of Fame
everyone is entitled to their own opinion so you do you, but why would anyone need variety when ball bashing and stifling Djokovic-like movement and defense can win you a Slam and 2 masters in around 6 months. Again, these things come natural to him and the only reason he will add more variety is if his plan A is not good enough. Till then this is what he is mate
Apun94
Hall of Fame
I find it very weird (but totally predictable) that @nolefam_2024 is heavily defending Sinner now since Sinners game is so like djokovic's and hates alcaraz because he plays more like Federer. (he wont admit he hates either Fed or alcaraz btw) It just confirms to me that he has some ego defense mechanism problem. He identifies with djokovic so much that he is desperate to cling onto any other player that reminds him of djokovic. Very interesting.
Again I am not hating on him, I (as a budding psychiatrist) find this very fascinating
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
All the stats are right here in this thread.
If you want details check here. The dominance ratio the return pts won and the hold percentage are all like fedkovic best years.
It's proven with numbers.
dking68
Legend
Nolefams are Sinnerfams. He’s a Sinnerfam once Djokovic retires
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Nope. We will see. I am Nolefam. Sinner is the next atg and I will defend him from lies.
Apun94
Hall of Fame
The field os very week. Dont just tell me 2+2=4. I can read. Explain me the numbers with context of the game. Also having a hot 6 months doesnt all of a sudden make sinner's level an ATG level
Apun94
Hall of Fame
Oh God theres another idiot right here. I can only deal with nolefam's idiocity for now. Dont reply to this message, dont want to waste my energy on low IQ trolls
Apun94
Hall of Fame
Lol so you will now have another player to latch on to when Djokovic retires. Buddy get help, I am serious. There is no us against the world thing going on here, no secret conspiracy against Sinner from anyone. Your whole us against the world mentality is very bad for your mental health
dking68
Legend
You will be Sinnerfam, just watch lol. He’s a grinder just like Djokovic and you will have no choice but to support
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Ray Mercer
Hall of Fame
No slice, net game, droppers etc. He’s not Federer. He’s a Djokovic clone who plays more offensive.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
This is no analysis but I think this can be explained by a couple of things:
1) Dimitrov performing overall well - no surprise after his great run and his current Elo - but getting outplayed by a Sinner masterclass.
2) Aggressive returning against strong (first) serving will be hit or forced miss. Indeed only one early break ball, no contest in most Sinner service games.
3) Attacking tennis, clean serve plus, getting rushed by heavy balls or passed will not result in unforced errors.
4) Sinner often forcing errors through repeated shot quality rather than outright winners. Heavy weight with a good margin of safety which translate into (very) high quality shot for a in-the-zone Sinner.
5) Sinner being a brick wall meant that almost only ‘true‘ winners passed. Short or soft balls were prey and got returned with great interest.
Might have been match performance of the year so far…
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TheSlicer
Professional
And even then was an entertaining match
Apun94
Hall of Fame
Show me the numbers brother, where it says next gen is better than old gen
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
What is old gen ? The Medvedev gen or Nadal Djokovic gen?
It's already proven sinner is ahead of Medvddev gen.
What numbers do you want for big 3? I gave you return percentage, hold percentage etc. I didn't say he is above big 3, I said he is similar to big 3 so don't try to turn it around now
Apun94
Hall of Fame
The nadal Djokovic gen obviously. We all know hes ahead of the Medvi gen, thats obvious.
Sinner is playing against the current gen, and his return, hold percentages and all those stats are because of the bad competition (apart from a few) he faces. Like I said, stats without context hold no value. This is always going to be subjective debate and I have always said that this is my OPINION, not facts. Whereas you say that these are facts that Sinner is playing at an ATG level. these are not facts
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Sinner is playing in another world right now
I was always a doubter, but he keeps on improving every aspect of his game and there’s nowhere for the opposition to go. Grigor Dimitrov was playing really really well in the first four games, got to breakpoint, sinner saved it again as he has all year long, and then only gave up two more games...
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nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
It's just instinct of Nostalgia fans to always deny someone new replicating what their favorite did long time back.
And downright arrogant to assume only their fav could do so.
And downright arrogant to assume only their fav could do so.
Vincent-C
Hall of Fame
Who's dont ?
dking68
Legend
@nolefam_2024 What does Sinner need to do to surpass Andy by the end of 2024? I really believe if he wins Wimbledon, he will win USO.
Vincent-C
Hall of Fame
An impossibility, since Shapovalov is winning Wimbledon 2024. It's already booked.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
No chance even if he wins Wimby and USO.
Don't be greedy and wait for few years and he would be better than Andy Murray.
dking68
Legend
End of 2025 latest. He’ll be an ATG by 2026
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Let's see.
mightyjeditribble
Hall of Fame
I think he needs to at least get to #1 and win another slam to surpass Andy Roddick.
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