Djokovic crying about Centre Court may be the best thing he could have done for himself!

[DRII]

this single act probably played a key factor in Federer falling to Anderson in their 1/4, and if Djokovic beats Nadal, it would have contributed mightily to that as well.

Andrson barely got passed Federer, if they had played on Centre Court where Federer usually plays, by nearly all accounts Federer would most likely have won.

if Federer had won and played Isner in the semi, instead of Anderson, that match would not have taken nearly the 6.5 hours it did today; resulting in Nadal and Djokovic playing their semi with the roof open.

Djokovic squeaked by getting up 2 sets to 1 vs Nadal with the roof closed, Nadal really should be up 2 sets to 1! if the roof were open, not giving Djokovic the advantage of no sun or wind (which benefits players who rely more on precision and have less margin) and also high humidity (which slows play down and lowers the bounce somewhat) it is very likely Nadal would have closed out Djokovic in straight sets!

so congrats to Djokovic and his team for whining to the powers that be, it very well may have won him this Wimbledon title...

 

[scotus]

Whatever

 

[GabeT]

Why would Fed have won in CC?

 

[DRII]

Why would Fed have won in CC?

he's used to CC.

people also say that court 1 plays a little faster which could have aided Anderson's serve.

 

[Rafa24]

Why would Fed have won in CC?

Much more intimidating for Anderson I assume. Not saying it would have changed it but who knows. Not a huge deal. Nadal has won RG 11x and gets thrown on Lenglen. But fed always gets preferential treatment like he did at the ao this year several times.

 

[Technology Ruined Tennis]

4D Chess!

 

[GabeT]

he's used to CC.

people also say that court 1 plays a little faster which could have aided Anderson's serve.

That doesn’t sound very convincing. Fed lost because of a slightly different surface? Now Fed needs slower surfaces to win?

 

[Deon Sanders]

The enemy of the enemy of tennis is my friend

Djoker please win this Wimby

 

[vex]

this single act probably played a key factor in Federer falling to Anderson in their 1/4, and if Djokovic beats Nadal, it would have contributed mightily to that as well.

Andrson barely got passed Federer, if they had played on Centre Court where Federer usually plays, by nearly all accounts Federer would most likely have won.

if Federer had won and played Isner in the semi, instead of Anderson, that match would not have taken nearly the 6.5 hours it did today; resulting in Nadal and Djokovic playing their semi with the roof open.

Djokovic squeaked by getting up 2 sets to 1 vs Nadal with the roof closed, Nadal really should be up 2 sets to 1! if the roof were open, not giving Djokovic the advantage of no sun or wind (which benefits players who rely more on precision and have less margin) and also high humidity (which slows play down and lowers the bounce somewhat) it is very likely Nadal would have closed out Djokovic in straight sets!

so congrats to Djokovic and his team for whining to the powers that be, it very well may have won him this Wimbledon title...

No one cares stop crying. Just gotta win. Fed couldn’t win, didn’t deserve to be in the Semis.

 

[vex]

he's used to CC.

people also say that court 1 plays a little faster which could have aided Anderson's serve.

If he’s the GOAT he can play and win on any court right? If he needs to be on CC to win then he’s not very good

 

[DRII]

If he’s the GOAT he can play and win on any court right? If he needs to be on CC to win then he’s not very good

please!

Federer had match points on Anderson. you don't think if he was playing on CC where he's much more used to the surroundings and conditions (even if only slightly different) he probably wouldn't have won

 

[vex]

please!

Federer had match points on Anderson. you don't think if he was playing on CC where he's much more used to the surroundings and conditions (even if only slightly different) he probably wouldn't have won

But he didn’t win. He choked. That’s on him not the court

 

[GabeT]

please!

Federer had match points on Anderson. you don't think if he was playing on CC where he's much more used to the surroundings and conditions (even if only slightly different) he probably wouldn't have won

This is the strangest rationale I’ve read here and that’s saying something. Is Federer some oldester with memory problems that needs to be in familiar surroundings so as not to get lost?

 

[reaper]

he's used to CC.

people also say that court 1 plays a little faster which could have aided Anderson's serve.

The more used to court 1 Federer got the worse he played on it. He started on fire and the longer he played on it the worse he got.

 

[vex]

This is the strangest rationale I’ve read here and that’s saying something. Is Federer some oldester with memory problems that needs to be in familiar surroundings so as not to get lost?

According to (certain) Fed fans, Fed needs Wimby to provide him with court advantages so he can win his matches. Interesting stuff. I thought Fed was better than that

 

[Deleted member 756486]

please!

Federer had match points on Anderson. you don't think if he was playing on CC where he's much more used to the surroundings and conditions (even if only slightly different) he probably wouldn't have won

So Federer had a match point and lost just because he thought to himself, “oh crap. I’m on court 1!”

Come on dude.

 

[vex]

So Federer had a match point and lost just because he thought to himself, “oh crap. I’m on court 1!”

Come on dude.

Dude if he was on CC woulda been 6-0 6-0 6-0, no doubt. No doubt in my mind! Fed was so robbed having to play on an ordinary show court like a peasant

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

The enemy of the enemy of tennis is my friend

Djoker please win this Wimby

Inb4 he wins 9 more slams and surpasses Federer

 

[GabeT]

Dude if he was on CC woulda been 6-0 6-0 6-0, no doubt. No doubt in my mind! Fed was so robbed having to play on an ordinary show court like a peasant

Heck, I could have won in CC. If only they had let me play!

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/if-i-win-this-tournament-i-am-goat.621052/

 

[vex]

Heck, I could have won in CC. If only they had let me play!

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/if-i-win-this-tournament-i-am-goat.621052/

You coulda hit a winner over dem mountains

 

[RF-18]

please!

Federer had match points on Anderson. you don't think if he was playing on CC where he's much more used to the surroundings and conditions (even if only slightly different) he probably wouldn't have won

Sounds very logical.

So you mean federer being 2 sets up and having MPs to end it in 3, he needed CC to close the match? Stop your BS already.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Sounds very logical.

So you mean federer being 2 sets up and having MPs to end it in 3, he needed CC to close the match? Stop your BS already.

You probably think he was peaking at the time too.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Nvm. Each to their own I guess

 

[Sentinel]

he's used to CC.

people also say that court 1 plays a little faster which could have aided Anderson's serve.

Andersons serve had no problems on CC looks like.

If Fed can't win on Court 1 he doesn't deserve to win the title anyway. Can't have everything your way.

In any case, court 1 did not stop him from getting a match point in the 3rd set.

 

[Enga]

Well you know, a lot to winning tournaments, any kind, is just being the biggest *******. Its really the dark side, unglamorous part of competition. We all like to believe wha happens on the court is all that matters, but the truth is, sometimes wanting it the most means you will do things off court that gives you slight advantages, and swings things in your favor. If youre the type who is naturally an *******, then winning tournaments will come more naturally to you.

Not that I'm calling Djokovic an *******, mind you. Desire manifests itself in ways that come off as a-holeish. A guy who wants it the most will certainly complain and cry a lot more than someone who doesnt. Hmm, something McEnroe doesnt get enough credit for, he certainly had desire. It wont win you any friends but it may win you shiny trophies if you're smart about when you let your crybabyish tendencies out.

 

[Feather]

Why would Fed have won in CC?

Roger Federer was two sets up and had match point. If he had converted that he would have won in straight sets. I think Roger thought he was playing in Centre court. When he missed the shot at match point, he realised it was court 1 and that court 1 is faster. Then he knew that he cannot win and he lost

 

[Rafa24]

Roger Federer was two sets up and had match point. If he had converted that he would have won in straight sets. I think Roger thought he was playing in Centre court. When he missed the shot at match point, he realised it was court 1 and that court 1 is faster. Then he knew that he cannot win and he lost

i actually wish he had won now because I think rafa would have routed djoker in the heat and if they played 4-5 sets in 1 day. Don't think his conditioning is where it used to be.

 

[Feather]

Sounds very logical.

So you mean federer being 2 sets up and having MPs to end it in 3, he needed CC to close the match? Stop your BS already.

It's an incredibly stupid logic man. The guy had match point in the third set. He was 0-40 when Anderson saved for the set and missed an absolute sitter at 30-40. He could have easily taken it to the tiebreaker. Then onwards it was a different story.

Roger has only himself to blame for the loss. Anyone who says it is due to the court, especially when the losing player had match point in third set, not even fourth set , is ridiculous

 

[Feather]

i actually wish he had won now because I think rafa would have routed djoker in the heat and if they played 4-5 sets in 1 day. Don't think his conditioning is where it used to be.

I also think that if Roger had won, the first semifinal wouldn't have gone this long. Considering how close the match was , outdoor conditions would have helped Rafa and also Novak can't last five sets on a stretch with Rafa at the moment. So it helped Djokovic.

I only find it nonsense that Roger lost due to court 1. The guy had match point in the third set.

 

[Rafa24]

I also think that if Roger had won, the first semifinal wouldn't have gone this long. Considering how close the match was , outdoor conditions would have helped Rafa and also Novak can't last five sets on a stretch with Rafa at the moment. So it helped Djokovic.

I only find it nonsense that Roger lost due to court 1. The guy had match point in the third set.

Yeah he didn't lose due to court 1. He just didn't play great after the first set. But yes, djoker benefited massively from the roof being closed. Fed express would have beat isner in 3-4 sets and if it did go 5 it would have ended much sooner than 26-24.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Good point!
Novak did well for himself!

 

[Tennis_Hands]

this single act probably played a key factor in Federer falling to Anderson in their 1/4, and if Djokovic beats Nadal, it would have contributed mightily to that as well.

Andrson barely got passed Federer, if they had played on Centre Court where Federer usually plays, by nearly all accounts Federer would most likely have won.

if Federer had won and played Isner in the semi, instead of Anderson, that match would not have taken nearly the 6.5 hours it did today; resulting in Nadal and Djokovic playing their semi with the roof open.

Djokovic squeaked by getting up 2 sets to 1 vs Nadal with the roof closed, Nadal really should be up 2 sets to 1! if the roof were open, not giving Djokovic the advantage of no sun or wind (which benefits players who rely more on precision and have less margin) and also high humidity (which slows play down and lowers the bounce somewhat) it is very likely Nadal would have closed out Djokovic in straight sets!

so congrats to Djokovic and his team for whining to the powers that be, it very well may have won him this Wimbledon title...

Lol

This has nothing to do with Federer, and everything to do with Novak making a statement that he is back, and everyone should take notice.

 

[Gary Duane]

this single act probably played a key factor in Federer falling to Anderson in their 1/4, and if Djokovic beats Nadal, it would have contributed mightily to that as well.

Andrson barely got passed Federer, if they had played on Centre Court where Federer usually plays, by nearly all accounts Federer would most likely have won.

if Federer had won and played Isner in the semi, instead of Anderson, that match would not have taken nearly the 6.5 hours it did today; resulting in Nadal and Djokovic playing their semi with the roof open.

Djokovic squeaked by getting up 2 sets to 1 vs Nadal with the roof closed, Nadal really should be up 2 sets to 1! if the roof were open, not giving Djokovic the advantage of no sun or wind (which benefits players who rely more on precision and have less margin) and also high humidity (which slows play down and lowers the bounce somewhat) it is very likely Nadal would have closed out Djokovic in straight sets!

so congrats to Djokovic and his team for whining to the powers that be, it very well may have won him this Wimbledon title...

I don't think Novak whined, and I think he was right too. Whatever breaks he got at best make up for a couple really bad years in an otherwise stellar career.

I'm behind him this year, most of all because I will love seeing people who hate him want to commit suicide if he is victorious!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sport]

Stop with the excuses. If Federer can't win on Court 1 he doesn't deserve the trophy. Period.

Analogously, if Nadal doesn't win on indoor grass, he doesn't deserve the trophy.

If Djokovic does win the title, all the merit for him.

 

[Mr Feeny]

If he’s the GOAT he can play and win on any court right? If he needs to be on CC to win then he’s not very good

He's the GOAT because he has 20 slams. Every player loses a match here and there. Until someone reaches that mark (and Rafa might well do), it's him sitting at the top of the table enjoying being called the greatest ever.

That isn't what the thread is about ofcourse. You just couldn't help taking a shot at Federer. Focus on where the OP said that with an open Roof, Nadal would have dispatched your idol in 3 sets.

 

[Mr Feeny]

i actually wish he had won now because I think rafa would have routed djoker in the heat and if they played 4-5 sets in 1 day. Don't think his conditioning is where it used to be.

I don't know why you guys are convinced he would have routed Djokovic without the roof. Djokovic has beaten him in the heat before. Beaten him outdoors before. You make it sound as if Novak can only play indoors.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

I don't know why you guys are convinced he would have routed Djokovic without the roof. Djokovic has beaten him in the heat before. Beaten him outdoors before. You make it sound as if Novak can only play indoors.

It is similar to all other such instances: claim a scenario that didn't materialise, and speculate from there.

Easy Internetz win.

 

[Raining hopes]

Stop with the excuses. If Federer can't win on Court 1 he doesn't deserve the trophy. Period.

Analogously, if Nadal doesn't win on indoor grass, he doesn't deserve the trophy.

If Djokovic does win the title, all the merit for him.

That's how it should be.


The sport presents you with obstacles of every kind,
If you are not good enough your goddamn fault.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Federer lost fair and square. He had match points and he let it slip. It wasn't like he was blasted off the court in three sets.

 

[zagor]

Don't think Fed would have won on CC, he just wasn't feeling the ball after the 1st set. I can't even remember the last match where he made so many routine FH errors, it was a horror show.

 

[zagor]

Double post.

 

[Deleted member 733170]

Well done OP you have ‘trumped’ yourself and managed to come up with 5 different whinges in just one post.

Chapeau Sir!

 

[DRII]

Like I said!

 

[augustobt]

Don't think Fed would have won on CC, he just wasn't feeling the ball after the 1st set. I can't even remember the last match where he made so many routine FH errors, it was a horror show.

I think he would, as CC plays generally much slower, it would give Oldman a bit of time against Anderson.

 

[DRII]

the 'whining win' is complete!

congrats, the squeaky wheel does get the grease and it definitely worked this time!

 

[Achilles82]

Andrson barely got passed Federer, if they had played on Centre Court where Federer usually plays, by nearly all accounts Federer would most likely have won.

What accounts? Djokovic vs Federer in Wimbledon finals is 2-0 . Novak played absolutely amazing against Nadal, meaning he is back in his old form. He would have beat 37yo Fed no doubt about it.

 

[DRII]

What accounts? Djokovic vs Federer in Wimbledon finals is 2-0 . Novak played absolutely amazing against Nadal, meaning he is back in his old form. He would have beat 37yo Fed no doubt about it.

but he most likely would not have got past Nadal.

 

[Achilles82]

but he most likely would not have got past Nadal.

Its the magic roof! Screw all training and preparation. Just ask for roof to be closed and PUFF you have the Wimbledon title.

 

[deaner2211]

Don't think Fed would have won on CC, he just wasn't feeling the ball after the 1st set. I can't even remember the last match where he made so many routine FH errors, it was a horror show.

How can Fed not feel the ball after the first set when he won the second set and had match point in the third? Unless he played above his head in the first 3 sets then came back down to earth during the match points. There is something seriously wrong with you Fed fans!

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Stay salty OP.