Enough with disrespecting Novak with all this "cakewalk" threads.

irishnadalfan1983

Hall of Fame
There would be like five posters left here then. :)

I am being serious! Very annoying but just have to ignore....So apparently if Nole wins tomorrow it doesn’t count (that’s 2 in a row for him as Wimbledon doesn’t count due to roof in semi)...We already know Rafa’s didn’t count in 2017 and of course most of Fed’s don’t count due to weak era....Just 3 really, really lucky guys - luck of the Irish :)
 
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Deleted member 77403

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I am being serious! Very annoying but just have to ignore....So apparently if Nole wins tomorrow it doesn’t count (that’s 2 in a row for him as Wimbledon doesn’t count due to roof in semi)...We already know Rafa’s didn’t count in 2017 and of course most of Fed’s don’t count due to weak era....Just 3 really, really lucky guys - luck of the Irish :)

This forum would need to shut down if you were serious and it was implemented. :)
 

George Turner

Hall of Fame
Not everyone can do a cakewalk.

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Fabresque

Legend
People need to stop looking at names only.

Consider this:
1) Federer is 'supposed' to be hard for Djokovic, BUT only pre-2012-Fed (31yrs old), on HC/Grass.
2) Murray is an easy match up for Djokovic everywhere (edit: HC/clay).
3) Nadal is an easy match up for Djokovic on HC/Grass.

So based on the above match ups, it SHOULD be...
  • 2008 AO SF vs Federer = difficult
  • 2011 AO SF vs Federer, Final vs Murray = semi-difficult
  • 2011 WIM Final vs Nadal = easy-to-normal
  • 2011 USO SF vs Federer, Final vs Nadal = semi-difficult
  • 2012 AO SF vs Murray, Final vs Nadal = easy
  • 2013 AO Final vs Murray. = easy
  • 2014 WIM Final vs Federer = easy bc old-Fed
  • 2015 AO final vs Murray = easy
  • 2015 WIM final vs Federer = easy bc old-Fed
  • 2015 USO final vs Federer = easy bc old-Fed
  • 2016 AO SF vs Federer , Final vs Murray = easy
  • 2016 FO final vs Murray = easy
  • 2018 WIM SF vs Nadal = easy (even though Nadal played great, it's still grassDal vs. grassDjoker AND indoors)
Age and match-ups matter. Or do you think had Federer faced Wawrinka (in SF/F) on many of his HC/Grass slam wins as difficult? (Wawrinka for Fed is similar to Murray for Djokovic).

Djokovic fans have a better case simply by looking at the total slam count without throwing in the opponents he faced. ;)
lol are you calling his wins over Federer Nadal and Murray easy? You need to retire from ever posting on this forum immediately.
 

Plamen1234

Hall of Fame
lol are you calling his wins over Federer Nadal and Murray easy? You need to retire from ever posting on this forum immediately.

Beating old Federer is not so impressive as you might think.I know Djokovic fans have been claiming since forever that he was peak in 2015 but unfortunately for them this is not true.There is no need to make up stuff just to make Djokovic look better.
 

oldmanfan

Legend
I thought you were being objective at first but classifying 2015 WIM vs Fed and 2018 WIM vs Nadal as easy is absurd.

I'm not claiming each individual match was/is/would-be easy against those opponents. Only the 'type' of mactch-up it is before playing the matches.

For example:
For Nadal to beat Federer on HC/Grass is much harder than on clay.
For Djokovic to beat Nadal on HC/Grass is much easier than on clay.
For Murray to beat Djokovic in general is very difficult, but a little easier on grass bc he's 2-0 against Djokovic on grass (but too few grass matches to know for sure).
For Federer to beat Wawrinka on clay is more difficult than on HC/Grass.
For Federer to beat Nadal on clay is much, MUCH more difficult than on HC/Grass.

The above are general match-up difficulties by surface. This doesn't mean they will lose/win 100% of the matches if those surface match-ups are hard/easy, respectively.

Federer would rather play Wawrinka on HC than clay if he could choose. It would be 'easier' to get a win, but not always (he happens to be 100% on HC against Wawrinka but Stan has been close before, like Cincy2018).

Roddick is easy for Federer match-up wise, but he's even easier for Fed if on clay. Same player, one case is easy and the other case is even easier ;) .

General surface match-ups is what I said. And Murray is easiest for Djokovic out of Federer/Nadal/Murray in general, even though he's 0-2 on grass against Murray.

Surface match-ups is very important, not just their names.
Fed on clay is almost a guaranteed win for Nadal, but it's a completely different case on HC/grass.

And age is super important if the opponent is 30yrs+ instead of prime age of 20-29yrs.
 

RS

Bionic Poster
Nole had his fair share of cakewalks tbh, 2014-2016 is easily comparable to feds 2003-2007
2007 was ATG class. 2003 was as well. I would compare 2014-2016 Djokovic to 2004-2006 Federer. I think 2015-16 and 2005-06 are very similar but I think 2014 was stronger than any of them individually.
 
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