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French Open Draw: Thiem and Rafa will not be on the same half.
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weakera
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weakera
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He has needed so much help on clay lol
Raul_SJ
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Having Rafa and Thiem as top two seeds instead of Rafa and Joker does not solve anything. The draw will still be rigged with Thiem and Joker in the same half.
TheGhostOfAgassi
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So you expect Thiem not to be in Novak’s half 3 out of 3 slams this year, or you call it rigged?
TheGhostOfAgassi
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Wouldn’t have won a slam without it
Hitman
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Nadal has lost 2 matches in BO5 on clay in his entire life. Including when Rome was BO5 finals against peak Fed/Coria and Davis cup matches..... I don't think it's about the draw bruh
merlinpinpin
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In AO Rafa had Thiem in his half, was that rigged as well?
Was Thiem in Novak’s half in NY? Nope
So Novak fans have gotten Thiem in Novak’s half in one out of 3 slams and you calling it rigged?
Just like Nadal fans were hollering that the draw was rigged when Nads got Djokovic in his half at slams some 10 years ago when this happened like twice in 18 times. People never change.
TheGhostOfAgassi
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10 years ago? Where were this people saying that, here in this forum? It was before my and most people’s here time.
MichaelNadal
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Is that Lanny Poffo? Lol hard to tell.
Def gonna watch some 80s wrestling the next few days w my bro
Hitman
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Yes it is. This is from Saturday Night's Main Event November 1989.
The genius. Loved that character.
MichaelNadal
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Brain/Gorilla and Jesse/Gorilla are so pleasing to hear on commentary. Really havent had great commentary since Peak JR/King
all 3 duos really made everything so entertaining. A lost art
Hitman
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Brain/Gorilla and Jesse/Gorilla are so pleasing to hear on commentary. Really havent had great commentary since Peak JR/King
Jesse/Vince use to do Saturday Night's Main Event. They were good also.
Jesse/Gorrila were for PPV
Brain/Gorrila did Wrestling Challenge and then some PPV after Jesse left
Have you watched the latest Stone Cold Broke Skull with Jerry Lawler? He says that the reason why commentators are not so special today is, back in their day, the commentators themselves were superstars and attractions. That is not true now.
MichaelNadal
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zagor
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I do think (I'm almost certain) they'll put Thiem on Novak's half but I'm not sure if the former is even gonna be a factor, think USO win took a lot out of him. Both physically and emotionally.
The only real threat to Nadal at the FO this year is Novak, whose glory days at FO might just be behind him. In other words, Nadal 95%, field combined 5%.
The only real threat to Nadal at the FO this year is Novak, whose glory days at FO might just be behind him. In other words, Nadal 95%, field combined 5%.
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Since when are Spaniards given special treatment in France?
I've always heard its the other way around, that France has a racism problem....
And what would the Roland Garros tournament director get from helping Nadal?
Anyway, no proof that the draw has ever been rigged.
I've always heard its the other way around, that France has a racism problem....
And what would the Roland Garros tournament director get from helping Nadal?
Anyway, no proof that the draw has ever been rigged.
HetTheGreaterer
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Is that even a question??
merlinpinpin
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Clearly a loaded question. The true Rafa fans are hoping for a Nadal-Anderson final anyway.
HetTheGreaterer
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Bro wtf
woodrow1029
Hall of Fame
they actually can change the seedings. All grand slams can if they choose... per the grand slam Rulebook, the selection of seeds will beat the discretion of each individual grand slam tournament committee; however, the computer ranking list shall be a primary, but not sole basis for such selection.
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Nadal will reach the final and either Thiem or Djokovic will be his final opponent. Also, guaranteed this year’s RG will be played on red clay.
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BillKid
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Nadal has yet to play against the new Thiem
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jm1980
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What does TTW's resident rigged draw divinator @Tennis_Hands think?
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I'm hope for Djokovic-Nadal at Rome and Roland Garros, so Nadal can increase the slam h2h lead to 10-6, and cut the h2h deficit to 28-29.
Hitman
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G.O.A.T.
You're really out for blood, aren't you?
Are you hoping for the same match-ups but believing Djokovic can do the job, especially at RG?
socallefty
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It is a question with an obvious answer - post#30 answered it. It is meant to make the OP think about the premise of his post on what is good for the tournament. I don’t think draws are rigged. Just in case they are, the organizers would be thinking about what’s good for the FO and not what is good for Nadal - it is not one and the same.
Hitman
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I wouldn't have it any other way.
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G.O.A.T.
Yes but I'm asking do you give Djokovic a good shot (let's say 30+%) of defeating Nadal at RG?
mike danny
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I don't believe in draw rigging, but Fedovic being in the same half a whooping 16 out of 20 times in 2008-2012 was really suspect.
Hitman
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Yes. I give him a good shot of defeating Nadal.
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Yes, and the road has been cleared with Thiem's commitment to the US Open.You're really out for blood, aren't you?
Hitman
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socallefty
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Hopefully Thiem doesn’t get upset in the first week as he has to adjust to clay quickly after not playing Rome. If he makes it to the second week, he is going to be a tougher threat to Nadal than in the past because he has that first Slam under his belt and will be more confident. Rafa will still be the favorite against Thiem, but we might be lucky enough to see an epic match.
I think that the odds are poor that Djokovic can beat Thiem this year at the FO when he has already lost to him twice in the past at Roland Garros. Thiem has improved and has more confidence whereas Novak continues to have more intensity fluctuations in difficult matches and Thiem is good enough to out-hit him on slow clay.
If I were Rafa, I would want both of them in the other half and face only one of them in the final after presumably a semi against a weaker opponent. If I were Novak, I would want to play Rafa in the semi and not in the final where Rafa is at his best - then hope that Thiem has nerves in the final. If Thiem is in Novak’s half, Thiem would probably be more relaxed playing Novak in the semi than in the final - so, I think it would be better for Novak to play Thiem in the final and Rafa in the semis.
if I were the organizers, I would hold an honest tournament and not rig the draw. But, I would know that a Rafa-Novak final would be the best for ratings. Also, a Rafa-Thiem semi would probably generate more ratings than a Thiem-Novak semi.
I think that the odds are poor that Djokovic can beat Thiem this year at the FO when he has already lost to him twice in the past at Roland Garros. Thiem has improved and has more confidence whereas Novak continues to have more intensity fluctuations in difficult matches and Thiem is good enough to out-hit him on slow clay.
If I were Rafa, I would want both of them in the other half and face only one of them in the final after presumably a semi against a weaker opponent. If I were Novak, I would want to play Rafa in the semi and not in the final where Rafa is at his best - then hope that Thiem has nerves in the final. If Thiem is in Novak’s half, Thiem would probably be more relaxed playing Novak in the semi than in the final - so, I think it would be better for Novak to play Thiem in the final and Rafa in the semis.
if I were the organizers, I would hold an honest tournament and not rig the draw. But, I would know that a Rafa-Novak final would be the best for ratings. Also, a Rafa-Thiem semi would probably generate more ratings than a Thiem-Novak semi.
StrongRule
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I guess this means you know RG is now DO.
Hitman
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StrongRule
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But you know it's true. Djokovic is now a lock for this title.LOL
That's not what I mean.
Hitman
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How is he a lock for the title exactly?
mike danny
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Nadal is not losing to Thiem at RG no matter how confident Thiem is.
StrongRule
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Because the conditions are now perfect for him, with roof, lights and so on. So now this tournament is DO. Might turn into his favorite slam.
StrongRule
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Nadal might lose to anyone at this point of his career. He was absolutely terrible for a big part of the 2019 clay season. Problem is, when Nadal is out of form, he is VERY out of form.
Hitman
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It's still clay and nobody moves better on clay than Nadal.
socallefty
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Going by Nadal’s track record, that would be the safe bet. But, many uncertainties this year are new - no long clay season, long break, Fall weather, roof if there is rain etc. More to look forward to this year if they play the final than in the past.
mike danny
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StrongRule
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Nadal is 34 years old and after a very long break. I have a feeling he isn't winning it. 20 slams are too good to be true.
Hitman
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We don't know what the long break will become for Rafa yet. Rafa has come back from long periods without tennis before also and done just fine.
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