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EDBERG AND MCENROE would have been a formidable duo!
slice bh compliment and Kaptain Karl,
Some great players on those lists of yours. SBC, nice touch to add the women - deservedly so.
If I could add a few players to the ones you've mentioned Id nominate
Margaret Court:
2 mixed grand slams (63 and 65) to go with her singles grand slam and 21 doubles majors plus 13 r/u plus 20 mixed (including the Grand Slam) and 4 r/u. I think that last stat, 20 wins from 24 finals is pretty damn impressive no-matter what era. Strangely, she only gets credit for one mixed slam in 63 as part of a team (with Ken Fletcher) but if you count her individual effort in 65 when she won all four but with different partners then she's actually got two. Marty Riessen - no mean doubles player himself- said that the best mixed team ever was... Margaret Court and any guy LOL
Frank Sedgman and Ken McGregor:
the only doubles Grand Slam duo in men's tennis).
Roy Emerson:
even if you leave out the years 63-67 -although he was still up against Newk and Roche- he won 8 majors and played in another 8 finals. Overall total was 16 wins and 12 runner-up placings. That doesn't happen by accident, especially when 6 straight wins were at the French and, at that one tournament, he made the final 10 out of 11 years
Fred Stolle:
10 majors, 6 r/u (one at the 81 US Open when he was 43) plus 6 mixed including one as a 37 year old
What a bump.TRIVIA question (cuz I bet you guys on this thread will know ... and I cannot remember): Who was the player who called Mac to the net after "Tantrum X" and threatened to spank him (or just beat the snot out of him)? I remember Mac truly blanching in fear the guy would do it....
- KK
Margret Court, Doris Hart, Shirley Fry, Maria Bueno, Darlene Hard, Margret O du Pont, Louise Brough, Franciose Durr, Lesley Turner. Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall, Fred Stolle, Lew Hoad, Pancho Gonzalez, Segura, Roy Emerson, Rosie Callals, Virginia Wade-etc.My list is similar to slice bh compliment's. Here it is, with no "ranking"....
The Woodies
Leander Paes
Navratilova
Mac
Frew McMillan
Sherwood Stewart
Bob Lutz
Stan Smith
Tom Okker
Billie Jean King
John Newcombe
Tony Roche
... And my "all time best?" John McEnroe, so good, anyone he played with looked great also.
- KK
fantastic and wise post... tip of the hat to you!I can't believe that everyone's missed the other guy to have been ranked #1 in doubles and singles at the same time (besides McEnroe).
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drum roll please
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anybody remember
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Stefan Edberg?
Edberg most often teamed with Anders Jarryd. He was as good as McEnroe in doubles. His serve, that high kicker, was tailor made for doubles. It let him close the net and since he had a partner, he was nearly impossible to pass. Edberg and Jarryd were both possessed with great hands at net and played some great matches for Sweden.
My favorite doubles teams through the years have to be (in no order)
Newcombe/Roche - one of the all time greats
Newcombe/Stolle - their run at the Open losing to McEnroe/Fleming in the semis in 5 was astounding. Especially since they did it on a lark.
Hewitt/McMillan - these were the first guys I really followed in dubs. McMillan played with that great looking Fischer frame and had two hands on both sides and a bent arm serve. He was as stylish as Hewitt was brutal. McMillan played angles with a regular sized frame that were amazing even today. He also wore that little cap thing from Adidas. Too cool for school.
King/Davidson - won a Grand Slam in mixed
Lutz/Smith - stalwart Davis Cup team, established American dominance in the doubles in any tie they played.
Curren/Denton - great team, both had tremendous serves.
The Gullys - the original brothers act. They played with Adila Cannons and were really fun to watch. They were never consistently the best, but they were fun much like:
The Jensens - These guys were great. They did nothing but give back to the game, show enthusiasm and play for the crowds. Great team.
McEnroe/Fleming - picked up where Lutz/Smith left off. It is interesting that Ashe opted for Lutz/Smith in the tie versus Czechoslavkia in 1981 at Flushing Meadows. Bob Lutz and Stan Smith gave McEnroe a breather and beat Lendl/Smid to earn the doubles point. It is interesting for two reasons. 1) I believe that at the time, McEnroe/Fleming were the #1 team in the world. 2) Lendl/Smid were no slouches in doubles. It was an interesting gambit that turned out for Ashe.
Flach/Seguso - the next great DC team for the US. Many critical points won by this team in less than ideal situations. It seemed that for the majority of their tenure, they were on the road.
Woodies - probably the ultimate doubles paring, these guys made the transition from singles/doubles teams to strictly doubles guys.
Bjorkman/Woodbridge - I just love watching these two play. They both have great court awareness and can volley.
Bryans - they p!ss everyone they play off, but these two can play doubles. And, they love playing Davis Cup. I think PMac waited about a year too long to get these guys on the team. Todd Martin and his various partners didn't do squat for the effort. The Bryans should have been in a long time ago. Even when he let them play their first tie, I think they were ranked #2, he said he'd have to watch them and see how they did. See how they did?
The Bryans are strictly doubles specialists, playing a game much easier than when Mac, Newcombe etc. played.Definitely the Bryans. I reckon they are currently the most successful partnership of all time. But there are still many active players who play amazing doubles - Nestor, Paes, Stepanek, Mahut, Herber, Mello, Murray, Soares, Mirnyi, Benneteau, Roger-Vasselin....the list goes on...
Newk and Mac? What a duo! John and John, righty and lefty. Huge servers, clutch returners, awesome volleyers. Hmmm. They would not lose.Newcombe - record holder of slam doubles titles at 17. Played at a time when the top singles players were still playing doubles.
Imagine Newcombe on the right side of the court, partnered with McEnroe on the left hand side of the court - would they ever lose?
Indeed, rabbit, with yet another sage, menschy, atg poast.fantastic and wise post... tip of the hat to you!
Did Mac and edberg play as a team together? ... man that would have rocked.
Yeah watching Mac and Stich win Wimbledon together was an all time great moment in the sport.Indeed, rabbit, with yet another sage, menschy, atg poast.
I do not recall Mac and Edberg teaming up, but you know who did? Mac and Stich, wimbledon champs in singles and doubles at various times.
Another pretty cool tandem: Arthur Ashe and johnny Mac. Early days. Similar sized fros. Differently sized egos.
The Whiz Kids.What about Hoad and Rosewall
Are you sure, I had Edberg stopping doubles when he was No. 4 in singles. Unless it was a blip. He got to No. 1 singles in 1990 but doubles in 86, he stopped regularly playing not long after. Jarad played with Fitzgerald around late 80s.I can't believe that everyone's missed the other guy to have been ranked #1 in doubles and singles at the same time (besides McEnroe).
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drum roll please
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anybody remember
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Stefan Edberg?
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Wikipedia said:Championship Years Record accomplished Player tied
No. 1 Ranking 1986–1987 Achieved both in singles and doubles John McEnroe
Fewest games match 1987 Triple bagel win (6–0, 6–0, 6–0) Nikola Špear
Karel Nováček
Ivan Lendl
Sergi Bruguera
Andy Murray
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Edberg#Records
total tournaments in doubles for Mac isnt 69, is 78. And Mac also had 269 weeks as No.1 in doubles against 205 for Woody.I'd go for Woodbridge, over McEnroe.
Woodbridge has won all 4 Grand Slams in doubles - Mac never even made a French or Australian open final. Total doubles Grand Slams won - 16 for Woodbridge, 9 for Mac. Total tournaments won in doubles - 83 for Woodbridge, 69 for Mac.