Murray vs Safin vs Wawrinka vs Roddick vs Del Potro vs Hewitt?

[JoelSandwich]

Rank the players from greatest to least.

I know Roddick and Del Potro only have 1 slam but Roddick faced peak Fed for 98% of his.
Del Potro also got injured when he could've had his best years. So I decided to include them.

 

[KINGROGER]

Safin > Del Potro > Wawrinka > Roddick > Hewitt > Murray

 

[Pablo1989]

Murray
Wawrinka
Safin
Hewitt
Roddick
Del Potro

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Murray GOAT

'MONNNN!

That is all.

 

[Emperor of Belgrade]

Murray 1st, Del Potro last.

 

[Vanilla Slice]

Murray (consistent)
Wawrinka (inconsistent but clutch)
Safin (lazy)
Roddick (unlucky)
Hewitt (transitional era)
Del Potro (injuries)

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

Murray vs Safin vs Wawrinka vs Roddick vs Del Potro vs Hewitt?


This is like an overwrought Dylan song. . Too many 'verses'

 

[ANDYbhGENIUS]

No-one cares.

 

[Fedeonic]

Career wise: Murray and Hewitt.
Peak play wise: Wawinka and Safin.
Most loved wise: Del Potro and Safin.

 

[90's Clay]

1. Safin- Biggest Underachiever ever next to Rios. Should have won 7-8 slams at least
2. Hewitt- Injuries derailed his career but he was awesome at his peak. Ridiculously good counterpuncher. Injuries really screwed him over.
3. Murray- Boring game, boring player but he's solid.
4. Del Potro- Hard to say what he would have done. Great peak but real erratic.
5. Wawrinka- Similar to Del Potro
6. Roddick- Least talented of all them.

 

[NEW_BORN]

Greatest in terms of career achievements-
Murray (3 slams, OG)
Wawrinka (3 slams)
Hewitt (2 slams, world no.1, 2 WTFs)
Safin (2 slams, world no.1)
Roddick (1 slam, world no.1)
DelPotro (1 slam)

Greatest in terms of peak capabilities-
Wawrinka (AO14)
Safin (AO05)
DelPotro (USO09)
Murray (OG12)
Hewitt (USO01)
Roddick (USO03)

 

[nowhereman]

Murray in terms of accomplishments, Safin in terms of peak level.

 

[Chadillac]

Hewitt for being #1 a couple years.

Roddicks us open was like djoks french this year. Rained out with preferrential scheduling.

 

[tipsa...don'tlikehim!]

Roddick and Del Potro don't belong in this group.

 

[VamosBamos987]

Fognini

 

[Indio]

Murray's two Olympic Golds and twelve Masters titles put him well ahead of whoever's in 2nd place (and that would probably be Hewitt).

 

[metsman]

Murray, Hewitt, Safin, Wawrinka/Roddick, Delpo.

 

[Phoenix1983]

Murray
Hewitt
Wawrinka
Safin
Roddick
Del Potro


Simples.

 

[MarcusInKensington]

Hewitt doesn't belong on that list.

 

[nadalfan2013]

Most successful: Murray

Greatest: Wawrinka

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Hewitt doesn't belong on that list.

Kinda does.

Where else does he belong? With David Ferrer like you and the other mindless nobodies think?

 

[Sysyphus]

Safin > Del Potro > Wawrinka > Roddick > Hewitt > Murray

 

[90's Clay]

My problem with Murray is he has had sooo many chance to add on to his title count and has blown most of what seems like more opportunities than Lendl at this point it seems like. .


How great is he when he constantly gets to finals but for one reason or another always ends up on the losing end. If Safin, Hewitt, made as many finals as he has they would have more to show for themselves. Probably ALOT more. (If Safin wasn't such a nut off the court and Hewitt stayed healthy for more than 2-3 years).

Murray has been in and around the top for 8-9 years and only a few slams to show for himself? And even now he can't dominate (which he should be when you consider Fed semi-retired, Nadal pretty much retired, and Nole's dip in level).

If you think about it Murray should be dominating most of the year under the circumstances. he's always been the "best of the rest" The fact that he isn't.. Knocks him down quite a few notches in my book.

 

[Phoenix1983]

If you think about it Murray should be dominating most of the year under the circumstances. he's always been the "best of the rest" The fact that he isn't.. Knocks him down quite a few notches in my book.

Fortunately your book shall never be published.

 

[QuentinFederer]

I'd have to say:
Delpo
Wawrinka
Murray
Roddick
Safin
Hewitt

 

[Mainad]

My problem with Murray is he has had sooo many chance to add on to his title count and has blown most of what seems like more opportunities than Lendl at this point it seems like. .

How great is he when he constantly gets to finals but for one reason or another always ends up on the losing end. If Safin, Hewitt, made as many finals as he has they would have more to show for themselves. Probably ALOT more. (If Safin wasn't such a nut off the court and Hewitt stayed healthy for more than 2-3 years).

So if only Murray had made just a handful of finals like Hewitt and Safin!

Murray has been in and around the top for 8-9 years and only a few slams to show for himself? And even now he can't dominate (which he should be when you consider Fed semi-retired, Nadal pretty much retired, and Nole's dip in level).

Right now he seems to be dominating everyone else apart from Djokovic!

If you think about it Murray should be dominating most of the year under the circumstances. he's always been the "best of the rest" The fact that he isn't.. Knocks him down quite a few notches in my book.

Why should he be dominating most of the year? Djokovic was still at peak form for most of the 1st half and we don't know yet how he will be for the rest of this season.

 

[Mainad]

I'd have to say:
Delpo
Wawrinka
Murray
Roddick
Safin
Hewitt

Delpo greater than 3 and 2 time Slam champions???

 

[QuentinFederer]

Delpo greater than 3 and 2 time Slam champions???

Peak Delpo is for sure, without injury he'd have between 3 and 6 by now.

 

[Mainad]

Peak Delpo is for sure, without injury he'd have between 3 and 6 by now.

But we only ever saw peak Delpo at 2009 US Open and how do we know what he would have won, injured or not? You can only realistically go on facts, not suppositions.

 

[VamosBamos987]

But we only ever saw peak Delpo at 2009 US Open and how do we know what he would have won, injured or not? You can only realistically go on facts, not suppositions.

yes, mury gote.

 

[QuentinFederer]

But we only ever saw peak Delpo at 2009 US Open and how do we know what he would have won, injured or not? You can only realistically go on facts, not suppositions.

Did you see the Davis cup match between Delpo and Murray?

 

[Druss]

Depends what you mean by greatest. If it's implying the most accomplished, sadly it's Murray. If it's implying the most gifted and greatest in terms of playing at their peak, then without a doubt it's the Russian 'giant' Marat Safin.

 

[MichaelNadal]

I'd love to see them compete in other events to make an informed decision

 

[Druss]

Safin > Del Potro > Wawrinka > Roddick > Hewitt > Murray

Safin > Del Potro > Wawrinka = Pre-2006 Hewitt = Murray > Roddick in terms of peak level play. In terms of consistent level of play, Murray surpasses them all by quite a stretch. NB: Post 2005 Hewitt doesn't even come close to them

 

[Hyde]

Murray must be compared with the likes of Becker, Wilander and Edberg, not with the likes of Del Potro and Roddick.

 

[Mainad]

Did you see the Davis cup match between Delpo and Murray?

Yes, but so what? Did you see the Olympic final between Delpo and Murray?

 

[Mainad]

Depends what you mean by greatest. If it's implying the most accomplished, sadly it's Murray. If it's implying the most gifted and greatest in terms of playing at their peak, then without a doubt it's the Russian 'giant' Marat Safin.

Nothing sad about it as far as I'm concerned!

 

[H_Richardson]

Yes, but so what? Did you see the Olympic final between Delpo and Murray?

Slicin' Delpo managed to beat Murray playing the best tennis of his career in the Davis Cup, and almost took him to 5 sets again at the Olympics...he also beat Djokovic and Nadal there.

 

[Jokervich]

From greatest to least great:

Wawrinka
Del Potro
Safin
Roddick
Murray
Hewitt

If you look at it this way: Wawrinka had to beat peak Nadal/Djokovic/still strong Federer to win his slams. Del Potro beat a prime Nadal and prime Federer to win the US Open. Safin beat peak Federer in slams when he was absolutely destroying everyone else on the tour. Roddick had to contend with peak/prime Federer on numerous occasions and came very close to beating him. Murray beat an out-of-sorts Djokovic to win 2 of his slams and a draw of absolute mugs to win his 3rd slam - routinely got crushed by the big 3 when it mattered. Hewitt just got crushed by anyone decent, which is why I put him at the bottom.

 

[Mainad]

Slicin' Delpo managed to beat Murray playing the best tennis of his career in the Davis Cup, and almost took him to 5 sets again at the Olympics...he also beat Djokovic and Nadal there.

Very commendable it was too but it still doesn't make him greater than any of them as their respective H2Hs and career achievements amply prove.

 

[QuentinFederer]

Yes, but so what? Did you see the Olympic final between Delpo and Murray?

I did, and Murray played well but Delpo was tired that match.

 

[Mainad]

From greatest to least great:

Wawrinka
Del Potro
Safin
Roddick
Murray
Hewitt

You seem to be confusing your your personal likes and dislikes with who is actually the greater. Difficult for some of us to be truly objective at times, isn't it?

 

[Mainad]

I did, and Murray played well but Delpo was tired that match.

Oh yeah, Murray was pretty tired too in the DC match. If you think you can justify Delpo's occasional victories by appealing to his genius while excusing his many losses on account of him being 'tired' or 'injured', think again!

 

[Jokervich]

You seem to be confusing your your personal likes and dislikes with who is actually the greater. Difficult for some of us to be truly objective at times, isn't it?

Added extra to my post. Murray got crushed by top players whenever it mattered. All the other guys (bar Hewitt) gave guys like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic close matches in the slams and even beat them when they were playing at peak/close to peak form. Please don't include M1000 tournaments btw, because those tournaments don't matter. Slams are what count.

Additionally, Murray got beaten by post-prime Roddick at Wimbledon.

 

[Mainad]

Added extra to my post. Murray got crushed by top players whenever it mattered. All the other guys (bar Hewitt) gave guys like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic close matches in the slams and even beat them when they were playing at peak/close to peak form. Please don't include M1000 tournaments btw, because those tournaments don't matter. Slams are what count.

Additionally, Murray got beaten by post-prime Roddick at Wimbledon.

Murray beat Djokovic and Nadal twice at the Slams and Federer once. Moreover Murray beat Djokovic, the world number #1 player, TWICE in Slam finals. Murray has made 10 Slam finals, Roddick just 4 and won only 1. Murray also beat peak Roddick at 2006 Wimbledon where he was a 2 time defending finalist. If we're just talking about the Slams, Murray beats Roddick hands down without any question. It's not even up for serious discussion...lol!

To come out with all that absurd guff merely proves you don't know much about Murray's career at all or don't seem to care. Either way, you've simply let your personal prejudices about a player affect your judgement which is an occupational hazard for too many posters on here.

 

[Mainad]

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[mike danny]

Murray must be compared with the likes of Becker, Wilander and Edberg, not with the likes of Del Potro and Roddick.

He is a lesser player than Becker, Edberg and Wilander. Those guys are all-time greats while Murray is not.

What's to compare?

 

[Mainad]

He is a lesser player than Becker, Edberg and Wilander. Those guys are all-time greats while Murray is not.

What's to compare?

How about their claycourt results?

Murray: 1 RG final, 2 claycourt Masters, 1 other title.

Edberg: 1 RG final, 1 claycourt Masters, 2 other titles.

Becker: 0 RG finals, no claycourt titles.

Or grasscourt results?

Becker: 3 Wimbledons, 4 other finals, 4 Queens titles.

Murray: 2 Wimbledons, 1 other final, 5 Queens titles.

Edberg: 2 Wimbledons, 1 other final, 1 Queens and 2 other titles

 

[H_Richardson]

Very commendable it was too but it still doesn't make him greater than any of them as their respective H2Hs and career achievements amply prove.

Yeah but I thought the conversation was about their peak levels as @QuentinFederer was saying, Delpo's peak is extremely high and probably higher than Murray's on hard courts. Of course he doesn't have the consistency though and Murray is easily the better player day in day out and overall.

 

[QuentinFederer]

Yeah but I thought the conversation was about their peak levels as @QuentinFederer was saying, Delpo's peak is extremely high and probably higher than Murray's on hard courts. Of course he doesn't have the consistency though and Murray is easily the better player day in day out and overall.

I was discussing peak levels, and we will never know just what Delpo could have achieved without injuries. I think he'd possibly have won more majors than Murray but I don't think Delpo's game would have the week in week out consistency that Murray's game has. I think Delpo would be like Stan, peak level pretty much unbeatable but that level is hard to sustain, but when they can put in those performances in the 2nd week of the slams then they will win them.