Stefanos: when are we going to start criticizing him more often?

[ChrisJR3264]

I don’t see much analysis here on his under achievements. The guy made a GS final this year and has always seemed to under perform. I see medvedev catching more crap here than Stefanos when I’m reality medvedev was never projected to be anything special coming through juniors.

I think it’s time we say Stefanos has really been a huge disappointment. Can he rebound his career? Talent really isn’t an issue for him either.

 

[TheNachoMan]

He’s made his money and he gets to go home to Badosa. Not everyone wants to win 20 slams. It is what it is.

 

[dropshotlikeitshot]

Medvedev is criticized here because he can be a legitimate threat at big tournaments.

Tsitsipas is just a meme

 

[Impressario]

Stefanos likes himself naked with his ripped body, but he managed to lose to a 10+ kilos (at least) overweight player.

 

[Terenigma]

To be fair, his slam final run this year wasn't that impressive. The only notable player he beat was Sinner and that was Sinner when he was still in his choking phase and before he got his first big-title. In general he's just not that good of a player and he does get his fair share of judgement but I don't think anyone really expects him to do great because his serve and BH are just not that good. He wins a lot of his matches by relying on his forehand only.

Medvedev gets more judgement because he's actually capable of winning big titles so when he goes out early, it does shock people because we expect more from him. he's actually going deep in tournaments. Hell he won a clay title this year and he's far from a clay-courter. There is difference there.

 

[pico]

Medvedev is criticized here because he can be a legitimate threat at big tournaments.

Tsitsipas is just a meme

Lol cracked me up

 

[ollinger]

Criticize him for not being as good as you erroneously thought he was??

 

[bigbadboaz]

Seems like he gets criticized PLENTY to me.. and I have no problem with that -

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Criticize him for not being as good as you erroneously thought he was??

Being rated in the top 10 - he’s not consisted.
He seems to be getting worse. And while carrying 2 ATP 1000 titles and a coupleGS runner up trophies - he’s declined mentally.

Him changing to Mark P full time I thought would help him. It didn’t

 

[glenWs]

Medvedev is criticized here because he can be a legitimate threat at big tournaments.

Tsitsipas is just a meme

Ahh. He's a kid finding himself. In a few years he's gonna kick himself for posting something so inane and cliche. I think Badosa has liberated him somehow. She must be kicking his ass betwixt the sheets

 

[dking68]

He just is a low ceiling high floor type player. Has enough weapons to get him to slam QFs or so but when he runs into the best - Djokovic, Alcaraz, Medvedev , Sinner - he just gets destroyed

 

[nolefam_2024]

I don’t see much analysis here on his under achievements. The guy made a GS final this year and has always seemed to under perform. I see medvedev catching more crap here than Stefanos when I’m reality medvedev was never projected to be anything special coming through juniors.

I think it’s time we say Stefanos has really been a huge disappointment. Can he rebound his career? Talent really isn’t an issue for him either.

Now. Enough is enough now.

Even ardent tsitsipas fans will say he is biggest loser now.

 

[dking68]

Now. Enough is enough now.

Even ardent tsitsipas fans will say he is biggest loser now.

A 20 year old and a 22 year old are both better than him. He needs to accept the reality

 

[Hood_Man]

If not for an injury I think he would have been French Open champion in 2021.

This year however he got criticised plenty. The reason why that's quietened down I imagine is because we finally have someone like Alcaraz who can actually win the big titles so all our attention is focused on him.

 

[nolefam_2024]

A 20 year old and a 22 year old are both better than him. He needs to accept the reality

If he wanted to be world number 1, he should pretty much retire now. A 38 year old Djokovic and a 19 year old Alcaraz would both be better than peak tsitsipas.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

I think Raonic would have gone further if he just got through drug addled poet boy

 

[dking68]

If he wanted to be world number 1, he should pretty much retire now. A 38 year old Djokovic and a 19 year old Alcaraz would both be better than peak tsitsipas.

It’s not happening. Sinner has a bigger chance of becoming number one because he can beat Alcaraz. Tsitsipas can’t and likely never will.

 

[duaneeo]

We're not experts/pros, so we don't have the right to be critical.

 

[Unseeded Player]

Badosa is waisting his energy a lot

 

[Rurumania]

He's making lots of money and living his life

What is there to crticize? Not everbody is built to win slams

 

[Rurumania]

He’s made his money and he gets to go home to Badosa. Not everyone wants to win 20 slams. It is what it is.

LOL i wrote the same reply before seeing yours

 

[ojo rojo]

he's good for the lulz innit

 

[Backspin1183]

He is just another Dimitrov. Some tennis fans like them because of their one hander backhands.

 

[dking68]

He is just another Dimitrov. Some tennis fans like them just because of their one hander backhands.

Their careers are pretty similar. Reached a career high of #3, won the atp finals, both masters champions. Only difference is Dimitrov never made a major final

 

[Lleytonstation]

I don’t see much analysis here on his under achievements. The guy made a GS final this year and has always seemed to under perform. I see medvedev catching more crap here than Stefanos when I’m reality medvedev was never projected to be anything special coming through juniors.

I think it’s time we say Stefanos has really been a huge disappointment. Can he rebound his career? Talent really isn’t an issue for him either.

Been a mug bum shuffler forever in my book.

 

[MrFlip]

We often remember the lyrics to a song but struggle to recall what we learned in school.
Loses R2 US Open to Stricker, a guy who almost lost in qualifiers to Lamas Ruiz 13-11 in the final set tiebreaker.
TOUR IS A JOKE TOUR IS A JOKE

 

[tennis3]

I criticize him every Tuesday at 4pm.

Is that not often enough?

 

[Krish0608]

He just is a low ceiling high floor type player. Has enough weapons to get him to slam QFs or so but when he runs into the best - Djokovic, Alcaraz, Medvedev , Sinner - he just gets destroyed

Cheeky of you to sneakily Sinner in that list against whom this mug is 5-2 and 2-0 in slams. But Sinner fans gotta Sinner. I understand.

 

[pabletion]

I don’t see much analysis here on his under achievements. The guy made a GS final this year and has always seemed to under perform. I see medvedev catching more crap here than Stefanos when I’m reality medvedev was never projected to be anything special coming through juniors.

I think it’s time we say Stefanos has really been a huge disappointment. Can he rebound his career? Talent really isn’t an issue for him either.

About what? About him not being in the best physical condition due to the fact hea exhausted bc of Badosa? Or about him preventing us from some regular Badosa scheduling on account of Tsitsi not letting that back heal fully???

 

[bitcoinoperated]

How big is his D tho?

 

[Bhagi Katbamna]

Medvedev is criticized here because he can be a legitimate threat at big tournaments.

Tsitsipas is just a meme

What a tool.

 

[ronalditop]

Its the badosa effect.

 

[accidental]

He made the Aus Open final this year

 

[pedro94]

Badosa is waisting his energy a lot

No one can blame him for that tbh

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Cheeky of you to sneakily Sinner in that list against whom this mug is 5-2 and 2-0 in slams. But Sinner fans gotta Sinner. I understand.

If Sinner wins a slam though you will have to eat your words. Let’s be honest at this point he’s more likely to than tsitsipas going forward it seems.

 

[Curtennis]

To be fair, his slam final run this year wasn't that impressive. The only notable player he beat was Sinner and that was Sinner when he was still in his choking phase and before he got his first big-title. In general he's just not that good of a player and he does get his fair share of judgement but I don't think anyone really expects him to do great because his serve and BH are just not that good. He wins a lot of his matches by relying on his forehand only.

Medvedev gets more judgement because he's actually capable of winning big titles so when he goes out early, it does shock people because we expect more from him. he's actually going deep in tournaments. Hell he won a clay title this year and he's far from a clay-courter. There is difference there.

The excuses made for sinner are absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Krish0608]

If Sinner wins a slam though you will have to eat your words. Let’s be honest at this point he’s more likely to than tsitsipas going forward it seems.

Yes but it was disingenuous to put Sinner in that list. That’s my point. He has nothing on Stef so far.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Stefanos likes himself naked with his ripped body, but he managed to lose to a 10+ kilos (at least) overweight player.

Stricker wasn't as much of a porker when he trained with Roger in 2020. Too much Raclette and Fondue.

 

[I Am Finnish]

This all Paula's fault

 

[dking68]

Cheeky of you to sneakily Sinner in that list against whom this mug is 5-2 and 2-0 in slams. But Sinner fans gotta Sinner. I understand.

Dude your favorite player has 2 20 year olds and 22 year old ahead of him. Just accept it

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Yes but it was disingenuous to put Sinner in that list. That’s my point. He has nothing on Stef so far.

Fair enough so far I agree. Let’s see what happens going forward.

 

[dking68]

Yes but it was disingenuous to put Sinner in that list. That’s my point. He has nothing on Stef so far.

Bro your favorite player has stagnated. Sinner is leagues ahead right now

 

[dking68]

Yes but it was disingenuous to put Sinner in that list. That’s my point. He has nothing on Stef so far.

Sinner is better

 

[ChrisJR3264]

The excuses made for sinner are absolutely ridiculous.

Sinner atleast is still 21-22. He’s got another 2 years before we call him overrated without a slam.

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Sinner is better

We’ll see what he does in the upcoming year or 2.

 

[dking68]

Sinner atleast is still 21-22. He’s got another 2 years before we call him overrated without a slam.

When do you think he will win one?

 

[Fabresque]

Medvedev = Crappy pusher not real player just makes ball in court

Tsitsipas = WAWOWOWOWOW ONE HANDED BACKHAND

Everybody loves the swanky one handers even tho it’s pretty obvious Stef isn’t that good. Those 3 guys at the top are miles, miles, miles ahead of him. And Alcaraz ain’t going anywhere.

 

[ChrisJR3264]

When do you think he will win one?

So he’s the only one that I’ve seen outside of Novak that can probably take out Carlos in a slam.
However he still hasn’t figured out how to play medvedev before his legs give out.

 

[dking68]

So he’s the only one that I’ve seen outside of Novak that can probably take out Carlos in a slam.
However he still hasn’t figured out how to play medvedev before his legs give out.

Yes I agree with your take. If he doesn’t win this USO, I’m 100% sure he wins one next year

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Yes I agree with your take. If he doesn’t win this USO, I’m 100% sure he wins one next year

I should also note I don’t know if he can take Novak in 5 either.
Really last year he was a serve away of putting Carlos out in 4. That was such a tough loss for him.
I agree. I think the first final he gets through is probably Austrailia. His draw is too tough this year in NY. I just don’t know if he’ll make it through.