The Djokovic bubble, when will it pop? A prediction based on actual mileage

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Plamen1234 said:
Remember the time when Djokovic getting to 17 Slams was certainty and it will happen in a short time - just lol.Now Novak fans have new illusion.They believe that 2019 will be repeat of 2011 and 2015.
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You have to admit that 2019 hasn't started off too badly though, right?
 
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Except Murray (probably) they all rised again after som big slumps; Nadal 2014, Federer AO2010, Djokovic FO16. Interestingly the slumps happened to all of them between 27-29, but that could be arbitrary of course.
 
MichaelNadal

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Hitman said:
Yeah, I don't get it. Talk about fickle. I don't think we will ever see cc again.
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I can't blame her, who feels like getting on here dealing with trolls all the time and being attacked? If it wasn't for needing something to do when im at work half the time, id barely ever be here, whether Rafa was winning or not lol. Some of us spend too much time here, myself included.
 
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MichaelNadal said:
I can't blame her, who feels like getting on here dealing with trolls all the time and being attacked? If it wasn't for needing something to do when im at work half the time, id barely ever be here, whether Rafa was winning or not lol. Some of us spend too much time here, myself included.
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We all do.

And far as trolls are concerned...that is what the ignore button is there for.
 
TheGhostOfAgassi

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MichaelNadal said:
I can't blame her, who feels like getting on here dealing with trolls all the time and being attacked? If it wasn't for needing something to do when im at work half the time, id barely ever be here, whether Rafa was winning or not lol. Some of us spend too much time here, myself included.
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Good for her. Managed to quit the addiction of being here.
 
Nadal_Django

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Let's not make a martyr angel out of that poster. An agressive, abusive, insulting Federer sycophant. She was the epitome of rudeness, blind hate and bitterness.
I have never ever seen karma hitting so hard one person like in this case. :D Good riddance, and wish her still many years of enjoyment with the Meles behind, to come. lol
 
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RaulRamirez said:
Interesting, in retrospect. It almost seemed to, but...
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Yep not quite, but I expected Djokovic to reconstitute himself after the bubble burst, but not for this sort of success. Why? Because I made the assumption that by this time some Next Gen (blind faith in probability) would have already been flourishing and entering their prime, creating a very difficult landscape to break through in such dominant fashion.

All this time later, it still is not the case. Instead of grinding out 1 or maybe 2 extra successes, Djokovic could win a bucket load of Majors and he's reaching a level comparable to his other peaks. Actually, it seems to me he has a legit shot of going down as the best of the era.
 
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MichaelNadal said:
I can't blame her, who feels like getting on here dealing with trolls all the time and being attacked? If it wasn't for needing something to do when im at work half the time, id barely ever be here, whether Rafa was winning or not lol. Some of us spend too much time here, myself included.
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cc0 was the one who did the attacking all the time against anyone who thought Djokovic would win anything. During Djokos slump he ridiculed everyone including novak and laughed at people who thought he'd come back and win big again. Hardly a victim here.

Glad that psycho is gone.

Btw, it's a he not she.
 
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RF-18 said:
cc0 was the one who did the attacking all the time against anyone who thought Djokovic would win anything. During Djokos slump he ridiculed everyone including novak and laughed at people who thought he'd come back and win slams.

Btw, it's a he not she.
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Azarenka didn't work out either it seems.
 
RaulRamirez

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-NN- said:
Yep not quite, but I expected Djokovic to reconstitute himself after the bubble burst, but not for this sort of success. Why? Because I made the assumption that by this time some Next Gen (blind faith in probability) would have already been flourishing and entering their prime, creating a very difficult landscape to break through in such dominant fashion.

All this time later, it still is not the case. Instead of grinding out 1 or maybe 2 extra successes, Djokovic could win a bucket load of Majors and he's reaching a level comparable to his other peaks. Actually, it seems to me he has a legit shot of going down as the best of the era.
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Of course, Roger and Rafa have also won 3 since RG 2016, but Novak is, obviously, in the best shape to add the most to his legacy.

I've posted many times that I think that all 3 members of The Big 3 are very close in career achievements, and Novak may well be the best of the GOATs. Let Next Gen dominate a few years down the road.
 
Plamen1234

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Hitman said:
You have to admit that 2019 hasn't started off too badly though, right?
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Dont celebrate too early.It could backfire.A lot of Djokovic fanatics were saying in 2016 that he is going to get the Slam record very soon.3 years later he still havent been able to pass Nadal in Slams.So once 2019 ends you can bump my comment and see whether I was wrong or not.Now it is too early to say.
 
GabeT

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Plamen1234 said:
Remember the time when Djokovic getting to 17 Slams was certainty and it will happen in a short time - just lol.Now Novak fans have new illusion.They believe that 2019 will be repeat of 2011 and 2015.
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And right after this post Nole went on to win three slams in a row!

In fact since this post Nole´s wins are close to what he won in 2011 and many of his numbers are even better than in 2011.

Things change fast in tennis.
 
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His bubble popped in 2017. So he blew another one.

But seriously, did his bubble pop? He may have declined slightly, but I don't think 2017 was because of age. He was injured and got surgery for it.
 
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GabeT said:
And right after this post Nole went on to win three slams in a row!

In fact since this post Nole´s wins are close to what he won in 2011 and many of his numbers are even better than in 2011.

Things change fast in tennis.
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The problem is the same as in the past for any of the greats; too much success wears you down and they're likely to acquire an injury or just be bone tired! Mentally it's already a strain being #1, but expectations build up within and without! :unsure: :cautious: ;)
 
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Tony48 said:
His bubble popped in 2017. So he blew another one.

But seriously, did his bubble pop? He may have declined slightly, but I don't think 2017 was because of age. He was injured and got surgery for it.
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Making final after final has to be traumatic to the mind and body! People don't realize, back in 2015, even if Nole didn't win an event, he made the final so he never really got a break besides skipping 1 of the 9 Masters! He still made all 8 finals winning 6 which is a record that'll be hard to break! He won 3 majors and was in the final of the FO dropping it to Stan! The same thing happened to Martina Navratilova; winning almost became boring after 5 years of dominance and she lost her motivation for a couple years! It started in '87 when she didn't win anything until Wimbledon over Graf! Before that, she was going thru the motions and even a lead wasn't safe! She played at Eastbourne with a 5-1 lead in the final over Helena Sukova and lost that set and the match! :unsure: :cautious: :( ;)
 
GabeT

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Fiero425 said:
The problem is the same as in the past for any of the greats; too much success wears you down and they're likely to acquire an injury or just be bone tired! Mentally it's already a strain being #1, but expectations build up within and without! :unsure::cautious:;)
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Of course. At this point I think any further wins are gravy and don’t really care for the slam race. He´s won enough. But I think, and hope, he will win a bit more.
 
astronautzor

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Oh god this sweetness of reading past comments here, the sad part is that a large part of the posts made in this forum today, are the same people that laughed and called Djokovic fans "morons" "clueless kids" for "thinking he can get to 17+ slams" earlier in this thread.

Yet i´m called a troll for starting a thread of H2H vs Nr #1 in Finals , because only Federer had a negative ratio there out of the big 3
Even brainwashed and groomed Djokovic fan @Djokodal Fan attacked me.

This is why i never get involved in stupid and egoisticall "prediction threads" gloating and ridiculing all time greats calling for their decline, and when they decline
Calling OP a master genius, the fanbase of the declined player "morons" etc etc..

The double standard in this forum is beyond delusions, BEYOND!

I stick to facts and numbers, i will never wish Federer an injury or Nadal for that matter..
But if i can back my guy up with numbers, obviously i will.. if a Federer fan can back it up with other facts and not (Age excuses, Mono, Clay is unfair) etc, i will gladly accept the counter argument.

Facts and numbers are never trolling, threads like these and the people gloating over it is..

Was an awesome read nevertheless.. :D
 
jm1980

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Plamen1234 said:
Dont celebrate too early.It could backfire.A lot of Djokovic fanatics were saying in 2016 that he is going to get the Slam record very soon.3 years later he still havent been able to pass Nadal in Slams.So once 2019 ends you can bump my comment and see whether I was wrong or not.Now it is too early to say.
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That's fair, but I reckon he's won 1 more Slam this year than you thought he would
 
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jm1980 said:
That's fair, but I reckon he's won 1 more Slam this year than you thought he would
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Many thought he was done, but surprised us all taking Wimbledon and USO last year! That put him back on schedule to possibly overtake Roger eventually! :cautious: ;)
 
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Plamen1234 said:
Dont celebrate too early.It could backfire.A lot of Djokovic fanatics were saying in 2016 that he is going to get the Slam record very soon.3 years later he still havent been able to pass Nadal in Slams.So once 2019 ends you can bump my comment and see whether I was wrong or not.Now it is too early to say.
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MichaelNadal said:
I can't blame her, who feels like getting on here dealing with trolls all the time and being attacked? If it wasn't for needing something to do when im at work half the time, id barely ever be here, whether Rafa was winning or not lol. Some of us spend too much time here, myself included.
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I got along fine with cc but he was often incredibly unfair in his appraisals of people and would constantly resort to nebulous mind-reading. This got so bad that even a handful of Federer fans that don’t like Djokovic defended @RF-18 in a back-and-forth the two had.
 
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Jokervich said:
I predict Djokovic will face a sharp decline after AO 2017. He might get to a few more finals after that, but won't win another. I predict in total Djokovic will end up with 13 Grand Slams at the end of his career, 1 short of Nadal, and everyone will be going on about how he finished his career on "unlucky 13" :rolleyes: I also predict he won't win the French. The 3 slams I believe he will win are AO 2016, Wimbledon 2016 and AO 2017.

Now I hope someone bumps this in 5-6 years time and proves me correct. :cool: Or this prediction could go horribly wrong. :p
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Gary Duane

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Well, since someone else bumped this:
Crionics said:
Just like with the stock market, the perception of future results of current players is either overly optimistic when everything is going well (think Djokovic 2015 or stock market in 2000 and 2007) or overly pessimistic when everything is going down the drain (think Nadal 2015 or stock market in march 2009).
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If anything this highlights the uselessness of predictions. If you want to put a career into perspective, wait until it is over.

I remember 2015, when Jokofans thought he would never lose again. Then the way even his fans turned against him when things turned bad. Now his fans think he'll go on winning forever. In a few years we'll know. But right now we all blowing smoke out of our bums.
 
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Gary Duane said:
Well, since someone else bumped this:

If anything this highlights the uselessness of predictions. If you want to put a career into perspective, wait until it is over.

I remember 2015, when Jokofans thought he would never lose again. Then the way even his fans turned against him when things bad. Now his fans think he'll go on winning forever. In a few years we'll know. But right now we all blowing smoke out of our bums.
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It's not like that.

They do hope he'll stay on track for a few more years.
 
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Novichok said:
Djokovic bubble still going strong
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He won only one RG up until now, which is not what most that were touting his "versatility" thought would happen, and he hasn't won the WTF since forever. I would say that his bubble the way it was in 2015 is pretty deflated, and it is getting even more so with every passing day on multiple fronts. The only bubble that is still going stronk is the statistical one, but we know why that is.

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Tennis_Hands said:
He won only one RG up until now, which is not what most that were touting his "versatility" thought would happen, and he hasn't won the WTF since forever. I would say that his bubble the way it was in 2015 is pretty deflated, and it is getting even more so with every passing day on multiple fronts. The only bubble that is still going stronk is the statistical one, but we know why that is.

:cool:
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Why?
 
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Sysyphus said:
Great prediction -- till it wasn't
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When will people learn to stop predicting age related collapses for the Big 3? First Fed was gonna be done at 30, then Rafa wouldn't make it to 30, then Novak wasted too much of his career to break the Slam record and so on etc.
 
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