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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Tiki-Taka

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    Excellent. :) I have always had a nose for enjoyable Champions League nights at Camp Nou. The team allowed more opportunities than I would have liked but it was a quite clinical display in front of goal. That's very good news to a creative but tend-to-be-wasteful team like Barcelona. Messi doing what Messi does, beautiful couple of goals. That's also the end of he's never scored against Buffon comments.

    Anyway, first tough test of the season after the debacle against Real Madrid, and it was passed easily. Future might not be as dark as I thought at first. We shall see.
     
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    Messi's first goals against Buffon. Yeah, he really struggling without Neymar. :cool:
     
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    I don't think we will win the Champions League this season but there is #Excitement. Direct attacking play and the feeling we can at least have a say in it, be among the 4-5 contenders. I didn't have that feeling in 2013-14 and 2015-16.

    It's been over a year since the last loss at Old Trafford. I don't have that feeling at all considering 11 out of the last 32 games there were draws. :rolleyes: Got to score considerably more than last season.
    Not a bad start to the season when it comes to scoring to be fair. 16 in 6 games. I really hope they deliver it against the biggest rivals.
     
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    If Lukaku delivers in big games too, you will have your own Drogba. Or maybe a second Van Nistelrooy? ;)
     
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    Things I've learnt tonight:

    Costa = iPhone 8
    Zappacosta = iPhone X

    Also Christensen needs to be playing instead of Rudiger. You can understand why Barcelona and the top Italian teams wanted him, he'll be one of the best in the game in 3 years if he's given a chance.
     
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    Great start to the Spurs and Dortmund game.

    No problems at Wembley tonight. 3-1 winners.

    Liverpool 2-2 with Sevilla.

    John Stones scored 2 in a 4-0 win for City.

    I certainly hope so.
     
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    Everyone scored tonight except Feyenoord and APOEL. Nice.

    I wonder how will Arsenal and Milan treat the Europa League.
     
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    I finally watched the highlights a minute ago. Some goal. Yes, Zappacosta now outshines Diego in every way. :p Chelsea doing what they should be, beating up the lousy opposition .Good start for most English teams.

    Arsenal managed to get it going in the second half tonight. I hope Arsene laid the smackdown on his team at half time.
     
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    Yeah it was important to win big. I think it's going to be close between Chelsea, Atletico and Roma. Maybe goal difference will come into play later on in the group stages.

    Then again, maybe Zappacosta will be smashing them in the top corner from the sidelines every game and goal difference will be mute. One can hope :p
     
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    Getafe fought well but Barca managed to register a comeback win. Paulinho scored the winning goal with less than 10 minutes remaining. More pressure on Madrid who have a tricky game against Real Sociedad away tomorrow.

    City with another goalfest. Should be on top of the league at the end of the weekend if Man United don't do the same against Everton. Meanwhile Liverpool dropped points against a weaker side.
     
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    Liverpool back to their usual stuttering self.
     
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    Yeah they've never seemed to get going under Klopp, so far. They threaten in spurts and look to be on the right track, then go back to square one for a period.

    City looked ominous again whilst the Spurs voodoo at Wembley continues.

    Chelsea started in a mess but have looked good since. The next few games should give us an idea of the real Chelsea this season, Arsenal, Stoke and Atletico away then Man City. Funny thing is it's been a tough start, fixture wise, but the only loss to this point has been the easiest game.
     
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    crystal palace have set an all time (division one/prem league) record, going back to 1888-89 season. :oops:

    no team has failed to score and also failed to win any points from first 5 league matches.:eek: palace now have zero pts/gls after 5 matches.

    and its hardly going to be a goalfest under new manager roy bodgeson.
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    A few nervous moments when it is 1-0 at Old Trafford. Then Mkhitaryan scored to relax the situation. All the pressure built up and 1 turns to 4. Everton lost four in a row, no goals and conceded 12. Careful, Ronald.

    City on top because of alphabetical order.

    Dembele out for up to four months is a blow. That just totally sucks. Injuries are always bad news but just after you join a new club.
     
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    Goalfest from both Manchester clubs, nice. I hope they will continue to deliver.
    Yes it's bad. Pressure now on Deulofeu and Alcacer to deliver in the attack. Suarez and especially Messi will also have more work but they are used to carrying teams. Good thing we started well in the league and have a few "easier" games coming up.
     
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    1-0 until the 83rd minute, performance average at best, 3 more goals needed to tie City's goal difference. Full time 4-0. o_O

    Not really satisfied with the performance, De Gea denied the equalizer twice. But the team scoring several goals late in the game again is great to see. Valencia with a stunning goal, Stormzy on the scoresheet again. Cool.

    Man United going to Southampton next and City are hosting Palace. Can't see us doing better than them next weekend. Chelsea have a tough schedule but if they do relatively well for the next few games they will be in the mix quickly. Tottenham, Arsenal and Liverpool were less reliable to me before the season started and they all have had slow starts.
     
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    My man Matic teaching these MUGS around him how it's done. Having him fit and ready to play all the time would be great.

    Chelsea are really struggling to finish a match with all 11 men recently. Madman Conte has possessed his players? :D
     
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    Chelsea looked bad. We always bully Arsenal at home, but with no Matic or Costa it was too easy for them.

    Definite red for Luiz. First one that should of been all season, though. Most of the others ranged from questionable to downright bizarre decisions.

    Hopefully it means an extended run for Christensen though!
     
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    To be fair Young, Valencia and De Gea had good games too. Herrera and Martial contributed well from the bench too.
    Pedro was asking for trouble as well, nasty hit from behind. Can't remember what did Cahill and Fabregas do.

    Looking forward to your clash with City in two weeks. Conte had Pep's number last season, but now it's a new one. Can the goalscoring machine be stopped...
     
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    That rocket Valencia has to be a contender for goal of the season.
     
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    The two in the Burnley game were over the top. It was a great game with tackles flying in and Burnley more than played their part, they got yellows for theirs though whilst Chelsea got reds. I think it was Arfield after just coming on, his attempt was worse than the earlier Cahill one but he got a yellow, and rightly so imo. Fair enough if you want to be overly picky as a ref, but when the consistency isn't there, you're inviting trouble.

    As for the City game. I'm expecting a similar approach to the Spurs game. Essentially 5 at the back, 4 packed in tight in midfield and Morata up top. We can't compete with the skill of City, whilst we've lost the power of last season which could effect them. So we're left with parking the bus essentially. A point would be an excellent result.
     
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    Rio Ferdy wants to be a boxer now, he really should just stick to his TV punditry.
     
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    I was looking for the EFL Cup fixtures and kept scrolling past the Carabao Cup. Turns out this competition has changed its name and sponsor again.

    Leicester-Liverpool stands out in the current round. City the only other big team playing a Premier League opponent. Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham hosting Burton, Doncaster, Nottingham and Barnsley.
     
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    Another hattrick for Lionel Messi tonight.

    LOL Ferdinand vs McGregor is coming.
     
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    The little one does it again. That's 12 goals this season already. o_O As long as he is with Barca, they will be challengers for the top prizes. They better not make it complicated with his contract. Sir Alex's quote about Zidane and ten pieces of wood can just as easily be applied for Messi.

    Meanwhile Liverpool lose to Leicester in the Carabao Cup. Ooops.
     
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    There was a time when team's achievements meant nothing in deciding who is the best individual. Brazilian Ronaldo, Weah, Owen, Baggio, Rummenige...

    That's why I am going to cringe badly when Cristiano wins the Ballon d'Or for this year. And that's why I will cringe badly when the new generations go and use Wikipedia to argue that he is on Messi's level.
     
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    As good as Messi? It’s debatable.

    I’ve seen Ronaldo dominate in England when it was the strongest league, he then went to Spain and did the same. He’s also more complete imo. He can smash one in from 40 yards, poach like Klose, bully defenders physically, he’s one of the best around in the air. Not to mention dribbling ability.

    Messi is incredible with the ball at his feet, you know what he’s going to do but even then you can’t stop it half the time.

    Ronaldo is a grade A pr!ck for sure, but I’d want him over Messi everytime personally. Maybe he’s not as good, but he’s effective.
     
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    I am glad that Ronaldo's finally back for madrid. They basically have to win every game because Barcelona won't lose.
     
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    I would have Ronaldo ahead of Messi if I could only have one. I watched him make the transition from talented kid to world class player while at United, but he certainly didn't peak there. Just unreal to see what he has become. You know I don't watch much Spanish football, but I see enough of them in Europe. Messi at Barcelona. One of those things just meant to be. Become their greatest ever player. I think because we've seen Ronaldo doing it elsewhere, that gives him the edge for me. Can argue that Ronaldo is Real Madrid's greatest ever player.

    A random quote I made up from Phil Taylor. :p

    He's a cracking little player is our Lionel. Always gives it a good go. Has a real bee in his bonnet this season. Firing in those hattricks just like I was firing in the doubles against MVG at the Matchplay, you know what I mean? Fantastic.
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    Yeah I think that sums it up. I’ve seen Ronaldo being kicked up and down the pitch in England, but he’ll still destroy you in a number of ways. Messi is an incredible player and probably the best of all time with the ball at his feet, but I’ve always felt he can be stopped. Maybe that’s the Chelsea fan in me when Chelsea and Barca played 5-6 years in a row in big European games and he never performed.

    I think we did a good job against Ronaldo in ‘07 then next thing you know, he’s leapt above one hell of a Chelsea defence and smashed in a header from nowhere. That’s the difference for me, he’s in the top 2-3 players in the world at every facet of the game. So for effectiveness, he’s the one I’d want in my side.

    Haha you not going to do an Eric Bristow eulogy about Messi, for the sake of balance? ;)
     
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    Let's not forget the most important thing. It has been a while.

    Are you talking about the final header from 2008? Was funny going into work before the final and hearing how he is not a big game player, from the non United fans. Can still remember one guy predicting what was to come for Chelsea back in 2004. While I was still betting on United to win the league. :p Ah, good ol 2008 though. Doesn't quite feel like ancient history like 1999 does now. 1999 is the still the crowning moment for me. One of those things you can't ever see being replaced.

    Can't do Eric Bristow. I have to dedicate myself to ''the master of the name drop'', Sir Phil Taylor. He is just so easy to parody. lol Great stuff. He will make Ronny and Lionel sign the board.

    Roll on Burton for United. Time for Romero to show that he is good, but as long as DDG is around, he'll always be second best. DDG is gold, on the very top tier of goalkeeping. No longer winning player of the year because it looks like our outfield players can now get it done. I'd be one of those pundits that would call DDG the man on the match against Everton just because of the importance of staying alert. His big save was excellent. Not just a camera save.

    How random.
     
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    It's ok, of those who watched the game, most of them will pick Messi and rightfully so. Success in the Premier League was never essential until these Leo-Ronnie debates started. I think Messi scored a similar number of goals against the best English teams as Ronaldo despite only having an occasional crack at them in the Champions League. Chelsea are just an exception, not the norm. I have no doubt that he would turn any English team into the one to beat. But his more loud supporters have to deal with the fact that Ronaldo is in the highest league of footballers as well. A bit like Fed fans in tennis, they will question and criticize other greats in any way possible, because truth hurts.

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    :cool:
     
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    Let's get things straight, Ronaldo didn't dominate it alone while playing for Wolverhampton. It helped that he was in the most dominant team Premier League ever had. :cool::p

    I'll give you the 40 yard rockets and aerial threat for obvious reasons. His weaker foot is better too. But he doesn't score, create or dribble as well or as much as Messi does. In recent years especially he is more of a poacher than anything else. Winger is just his position in the starting line-up, but after that he mostly lurks in the penalty area. All his career though Messi is playing as a striker, a winger, a midfielder all in the same match. Far bigger impact IMO. No I am not butthurt that Ronaldo left for Madrid. :D This is what I think.
     
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    I was just starting to like you guys. Pity.

    :p
     
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    Ronaldo ahead of Messi for me. I like his movement better. He makes football more fun. And its not because he is good looking, he is not my type.

     
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    He is like 70% machine 30% magician while Messi is the opposite. It's up to each individual to decide what he or she prefers. I like them both.

    I watched that a few years ago. Stunning positioning and reading of the game. :)
     
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    Haha maybe it's the Britishness in us! Ronaldo is what you'd imagine a truly elite, GOAT level player to be if they were born in Rotherham :p
     
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    Always nice being treated to a goalfest on birthdays, even if it's against a Championship side.

    All favorites today progressed.
     
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    Man United doing what you would expect them to do against Burton. Good going forward. Jose looking happy. Luke Shaw has been located. Brought on to start the second half.

    Happy Birthday @Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

    You're a fair man, I'm sure you can learn to start liking me again. :p
     
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    With Lukaku, Martial, Rashford and some others the future should have many more goalfests in store. Hopefully some of the big sides will be on the receiving end too.

    Happy birthday Doc.
     
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    So Real Madrid scored in 73 consecutive matches. That run came to an end tonight.

    When I heard the guy say that, I thought it was just a frustrating 0-0 draw.

    But they lost 0-1 at home. After conceding in the 94th minute.

    ROFLMAO now that's a beautiful present. Thank you Real Betis.
     
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    Happy birthday.

    Not going to lie, even though I am way past that stage of caring about all of Real Madrid's results as I was in younger days, this brought a smile to my face. 7 points ahead of them with only 4 games played. That's similar to how 2012-13 started. We absolutely cruised to the title then. Here is hoping it's the same outcome again. :)
     
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    Three La Liga games at the Bernabeu so far. 2 draws, 1 loss. When was the last time that happened? As TTW would say,

    YOU MUGS! :mad:
     
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    I was out last night. When I went to check up on the news there were dozens of Man Utd articles! Turns out they beat Burton 4-1. Chelsea also beat a Championship side (and a better side at that, 5-1). No mention though :D
     
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    Last 16 draw:

    Tottenham vs West Ham
    Bristol City vs Crystal Palace
    Swansea City vs Manchester United
    Arsenal vs Norwich
    Chelsea vs Everton
    Manchester City vs Wolves
    Leicester City vs Leeds United
    Bournemouth vs Middlesbrough

    Chelsea vs Everton and Tottenham vs West Ham stand out.
     
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    Wonder which day I’ll have to seek the highlights out on Channel 5 at 2am on. You know Swansea and United will be the live game on Sky ;)
     
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    They know who puts on the best show. :p

    I am sure there will be a stream of every game somewhere. How often do you attend Chelsea's home games?
     
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    Man Utd are the top drawing card. Think of 80s Hulkamania, brother. lol The match against Southampton will be the first time they are not on Sky or BT this season.
     
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    so far this season in la liga messi 9. Ronaldo 0. that ban makes it difficult to score goals.

    2-2 draw so far for both in champions league.
     
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    Chelsea have only been on twice, the Spurs and Arsenal games. I can understand Man Utd getting plenty of games, but still, they didn’t show the defending champions on the opening weekend for the first time in living memory! (What a game it turned out to be too, 3-2 and 2 sendings off). Everton game wasn’t aired, Leicester (the last two Champions playing a great game). Stoke this weekend isn’t on TV either, we’ve discussed before how that’s always an interesting game for the top teams etc.. it’s like they’re playing some sick joke when you can’t see those games because they’re showing Brighton and Newcastle, as this weeks example, instead :D

    I go to a couple of home games a year usually. I go to a lot of away games though. I’m in the Midlands so historically there are a lot of teams within 45 mins of me (Aston Villa, Birmingham, West Brom, Stoke, Leicester, Wolves). Then Manchester, Wigan and teams around there are just over an hour away.

    You spend longer on the Underground in London than the entire journey to these games! Not to mention the traffic out of London. Plus you get the hardcore crazy fans at the away games so it feels like a better atmosphere, personally.
     

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