World Tour Finals 2016 RR: Andy Murray vs Kei Nishikori

[Poisoned Slice]

Ice bath on the way, I bet.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Nishikori is so useless, just like Ferrer. Almost never wins, but pushes to the limits. 200 minutes match and now Murray will have just 1 day of rest until the end of the tournament. It's unreal how Djokovic always gets the day rest before the semifinals.

All that rest didn't do Djokovic any good at the U.S. Open.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

''Murray is just a brute.'' I like it.

 

[Steve0904]

Yes, in 2011 he was much better, nothing to compare here. But 2015-2016 is same level. I'm pretty sure he would have won against Murray in Shanghai final. Bautista just played the match of his life, for the first and last time. Murray wasn't impressive there, just won against "real level" Bautista.

But this is how it starts. 1 guy plays the "match of his life," then 5 or 6 others start doing it and before you know it you're in permanent decline. This happened to Federer too. He wasn't losing to young Nadal and Djokovic often in 2010. He usually didn't get that far. It was Soderling, Berdych 2x, Baghdatis, Montanes, Gulbis. Guys he beat with his eyes closed between 2004-2009.

Now the signs are showing with Djokovic. Querrey, RBA, Cilic (who was previously 0-14).Injured and had to pull out of Cincy and Beijing. Lots of miles on that body. In fact, Djokovic has played 101 more matches than Murray in his career right now even though they were only born a week apart.

 

[tennisfan3024]

Good match

Kei always gives Andy problems. Still expect kei to be in the semis.

 

[TheMuzziah]

Is it just me or Murray looks absolutely knackered? Hopefully has got enough left in the tank for the semis.

Anyways great match as expected. Andy wins his first two RR matches for the first time in London (last time he's done that was back in 2008).

Kei was really good today, would like to see him finish second in the group!

 

[Meles]

Fried.*

fryed
To make fun of someone.
Did u see that dudes shape-up? They fryed him so bad they had the whole school laughing.

fried is better.

 

[Desertman]

But this is how it starts. 1 guy plays the "match of his life," then 5 or 6 others start doing it and before you know it you're in permanent decline. This happened to Federer too. He wasn't losing to young Nadal and Djokovic often in 2010. He usually didn't get that far. It was Soderling, Berdych 2x, Baghdatis, Montanes, Gulbis. Guys he beat with his eyes closed between 2004-2009.

Now the signs are showing with Djokovic. Querrey, RBA, Cilic (who was previously 0-14).Injured and had to pull out of Cincy and Beijing. Lots of miles on that body. In fact, Djokovic has played 101 more matches in his career right now even though they were only born a week apart.

And this has what to do with the WTF?

You need to start a "Djokovic is s#*te now" thread

 

[RS92]

VAMOS MURRAY CARAJO

 

[jaggy]

Son of God prevails !!!

Son of Jud

 

[Big_Dangerous]

fryed
To make fun of someone.
Did u see that dudes shape-up? They fryed him so bad they had the whole school laughing.

fried is better.

I hate that we've now accepting grammatically incorrect words as slang these days.

 

[tennisaddict]

Nishikori is so useless, just like Ferrer. Almost never wins, but pushes to the limits. 200 minutes match and now Murray will have just 1 day of rest until the end of the tournament. It's unreal how Djokovic always gets the day rest before the semifinals.

I am hoping Stan will clown away to give an easy SF . RaoMug after that , should not be a problem.

 

[Meles]

I hate that we've now accepting grammatically incorrect words as slang these days.

BigD fryed by fryed.

 

[Meles]

I am hoping Stan will clown away to give an easy SF . RaoMug after that , should not be a problem.

DomiMug.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Just realized that Andy hasn't lost a match since the US Open, if you don't count Davis Cup.

 

[tennisaddict]

DomiMug.

Raonic is Berdych Jr.

Will beat everyone he is supposed to beat.

 

[Meles]

Raonic is Berdych Jr.

Will beat everyone he is supposed to beat.

Now I know why I'm starting to dislike him. ThiMug somehow must save tennis against all odds.

 

[bjsnider]

I don't know if someone has already reported this, but this match was the longest ever played at the WTF (3 hrs, 20 mins).

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Raonic is Berdych Jr.

Will beat everyone he is supposed to beat.

Except when he plays Albert Ramos-Vinolas at the French Open.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

I don't know if someone has already reported this, but this match was the longest ever played at the WTF (3 hrs, 20 mins).

Surely it cannot be, as many years ago the matches used to be best 3/5 sets. I remember Federer vs Nalbandian in the final of 2005 had to be longer than 3 hrs 20 mins.

It's got to be the longest match since the WTFs moved to the O2 arena in London.

 

[batz]

The EMB grinds out another win. Rejoice!

 

[I Am Finnish]

VAMOS MURRAY CARAJO

What is a carajo?

 

[WarrenMP]

This match was actually good. I enjoyed it. I am glad to see Murray pull the win.

 

[RF-18]

3 and a half hour match for mirray?

Wow Thats gonna hurt him.

 

[helennnnnn]

@andy_murray d. #Nishikori 67 64 64 in 3h, 20m -- longest #ATPFinals best-of-3 match on record (since 1991).

Previous longest #ATPFInals best-of-3 sets match was 3h, 12m in 2010 SF -- @RafaelNadal d. #Murray 76 36 76.

 

[Mainad]

What a fool Andy was for not closing out that 1st set when he had a set point (netted a routine forehand down the line) and then squandering his mini break in the tie-break. He could have closed it out in straights, instead he had to grind it out for over 3 hours. Couldn't even serve it out at the first opportunity. With his energy levels obviously already low after playing so much tennis recently, a match of this length was the last thing he needed!

Given that he finished top of the group with 2 wins (same as Djokovic), how come he hasn't already qualified for the semis like Novak?

 

[Sysyphus]

What a fool Andy was for not closing out that 1st set when he had a set point (netted a routine forehand down the line) and then squandering his mini break in the tie-break. He could have closed it out in straights, instead he had to grind it out for over 3 hours. Couldn't even serve it out at the first opportunity. With his energy levels obviously already low after playing so much tennis recently, a match of this length was the last thing he needed!

Given that he finished top of the group with 2 wins (same as Djokovic), how come he hasn't already qualified for the semis like Novak?

because there's no possible way for two players to finish above Novak by now, whereas there is technically in Murray's group. If Cilic beats Wowrinka tonight, Murray's through.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

What is a carajo?

Espanol for a four letter word.

Think of wtf or que carajo!

 

[donquijote]

What a fool Andy was for not closing out that 1st set when he had a set point (netted a routine forehand down the line) and then squandering his mini break in the tie-break. He could have closed it out in straights, instead he had to grind it out for over 3 hours. Couldn't even serve it out at the first opportunity. With his energy levels obviously already low after playing so much tennis recently, a match of this length was the last thing he needed!

Given that he finished top of the group with 2 wins (same as Djokovic), how come he hasn't already qualified for the semis like Novak?

Stan beats Cilic
Nishi beats Cilic
Stan beats Murray

All three will have 2 wins.

 

[Mainad]

because there's no possible way for two players to finish above Novak by now, whereas there is technically in Murray's group. If Cilic beats Wowrinka tonight, Murray's through.

Stan beats Cilic
Nishi beats Cilic
Stan beats Murray

All three will have 2 wins.

Thanks guys.

 

[Sysyphus]

But if Thiem or Raonic win their next match and Djokovic were to lose to Monfils, why couldn't either of them finish above him?

One can but not both.. One wins and the other loses, so one of them will end up with just one win.
Djoko at worst finishes #2.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

NVM

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Stan beats Cilic
Nishi beats Cilic
Stan beats Murray

All three will have 2 wins.

Do we really think Stan is going to win 2 matches though?

 

[Mainad]

Do we really think Stan is going to win 2 matches though?

The point is that he still theoretically can.

 

[donquijote]

Do we really think Stan is going to win 2 matches though?

Ask the tournament organizers lol.
They should have called a Murray-Djokovic final without going all through this.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

One can but not both.. One wins and the other loses, so one of them will end up with just one win.
Djoko at worst finishes #2.

Djokovic defeated both Raonic and Thiem so neither can finish above him. He won his group.

 

[Sysyphus]

Djokovic defeated both Raonic and Thiem so neither can finish above him. He won his group.

oh, h2h goes ahead of sets won?

 

[Big_Dangerous]

The point is that he still theoretically can.

http://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/53454af5-4188-4635-b622-e187582d4095

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Ask the tournament organizers lol.
They should have called a Murray-Djokovic final without going all through this.

Well I don't know about that.

 

[tennisaddict]

oh, h2h goes ahead of sets won?

It is first h2h amongst the people who are on same number of points. If that is the same then sets won-lost comes into play. If that is tied, I guess they go for games

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

oh, h2h goes ahead of sets won?

http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en/event/semifinal-qualifying-procedure

When two players have the same number of wins, yes. If three players have the same number of wins then sets won is looked. But since only one between Raonic and Thiem can match Djokovic's number of wins because they will play each other, it means Djokovic has secured the top spot in the group because he defeated both of them.

 

[Steve0904]

oh, h2h goes ahead of sets won?

Yes. It does. Djokovic has finished first even if he by some miracle loses to Monfils. Because only one of Raonic or Thiem can go 2-1 and Djokovic has already beaten both of them. In the case of a 2 way breaker, H2H is the first TB'er.

 

[Meles]

Pikiakori match

 

[Meles]

Yes. It does. Djokovic has finished first even if he by some miracle loses to Monfils. Because only one of Raonic or Thiem can go 2-1 and Djokovic has already beaten both of them. In the case of a 2 way breaker, H2H is the first TB'er.

If Raonic had won over Djoko and Thiem beat Raonic and all were 2-1, then how would the first and second player from the group be selected?

 

[Big_Dangerous]

http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en/event/semifinal-qualifying-procedure

When two players have the same number of wins, yes. If three players have the same number of wins then sets won is looked. But since only one between Raonic and Thiem can match Djokovic's number of wins because they will play each other, it means Djokovic has secured the top spot in the group because he defeated both of them.

Is he going to tank against Monfils? Lol, Monfils might tank too. Could be an entertaining match as neither guy has anything to really play for.

 

[Steve0904]

If Raonic had won over Djoko and Thiem beat Raonic and all were 2-1, then how would the first and second player from the group be selected?

Set W/L percentage. So for example Murray's set W/L % right now 4/5 or 80%. Then after that it's game W/L%. So if you win a set 6-3 your game W/L % is 6/9 or 66%. That actually happened before. In 2009, Federer, Murray, and Delpo all had a 1-1 H2H and equal set W/L %, but Murray was eliminated on game %.

 

[Soul_Evisceration]

because there's no possible way for two players to finish above Novak by now, whereas there is technically in Murray's group. If Cilic beats Wowrinka tonight, Murray's through.

LMAO at the Stan's name for his woeful performance. I love it

 

[Chanwan]

But this is how it starts. 1 guy plays the "match of his life," then 5 or 6 others start doing it and before you know it you're in permanent decline. This happened to Federer too. He wasn't losing to young Nadal and Djokovic often in 2010. He usually didn't get that far. It was Soderling, Berdych 2x, Baghdatis, Montanes, Gulbis. Guys he beat with his eyes closed between 2004-2009.

Now the signs are showing with Djokovic. Querrey, RBA, Cilic (who was previously 0-14).Injured and had to pull out of Cincy and Beijing. Lots of miles on that body. In fact, Djokovic has played 101 more matches than Murray in his career right now even though they were only born a week apart.

he went 4-1 vs. Djoko in 2010 iirc. 1-1 vs. Rafa.
Rafa didn't play that many top-10'ers before the WTF that year, because the rest of the field was quite awful for much of the year.
Edit: Rafa went 7-5 vs. top-10'ers in 2010 prior to the WTF if I can count. 11-6 after, having his best WTF ever.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

sad result...

 

[helennnnnn]

Is he going to tank against Monfils? Lol, Monfils might tank too. Could be an entertaining match as neither guy has anything to really play for.

Doesn't Djokovic have points to play for to try to catch up with Murray?