StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Fine, I agree 2006 doesn't tell us anything. 2007 not tells us too much as well, though Djokovic still played better than Nadal did in 2015. In 2008 Djokovic was very good and close to his prime on clay though.
2019 ATP Madrid SF: Djokovic [1] vs Thiem [5]
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ANDYbhGENIUS
Professional
I didn't say that, noone else afaik has said that, speaking of ludicrous, lol... Troll on.
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
AO? What do you mean?
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Except 2013? Are you excluding that too now? There is no except. Djokovic pushed nadal to 9-7 in the 5th, that alone is tougher than anything Federer could put up. 2015 counts too. It was a legit match. If we don't count that, then we shouldnt count Nadals wins in 06-07 against Djoko either.
So 1 win, 1 5 setter vs 0 wins and Couple of 4 setters?
Jesus, how pathetic this discussion is.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
The difference is that 2006-2007 Nadal would have probably won against any version of Djokovic in RG. 2015 Djokovic would have probably lost even to 2014 Nadal, leave alone better versions.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Haha more excuses, now Nadal was choking apparently and Djokovic didn't do anything. Getting more and more pathetic all of this.
Djokovic was tougher for Nadal, no matter how many excuses you wanna put up.
Nobody said Djokovic is the King of the planet cause he pushed nadal to 9-7 in the 5th, but it's better than anything Federer could put up wich was the discussion in the 1st place. So stick to what the topic is about and don't wander away cause your pathetic excuses doesnt work.
Isn't it fun just making up stuff to suit your own opinion.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm not making any stuff. Or do you really believe 2015 Djokovic would have won against better versions of Nadal?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I'll give you 2013.
And enough with the 2015 win.
Apparently, beating in form Gonzalez in a slam fi al is the epitome of weakness. Instead, beating the worst Nadal on clay is what legends are made of . You can't make this stuff up.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Fine. Djokovic pushed Nadal once. He has still never beaten a good Nadal at the FO at the end of the day.
Nadal_Django
Legend
While Federer did win.... A set....
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
I think you just proved my theory that you are not a Nadal fan. No Nadal fan in the world would ever bring 2015 Nadal up.While Federer did win.... A set....
TheAssassin
Legend
Hello there Clarky.
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BrokenGears
Guest
I would have liked it if Fed won instead, but whatev. Djokovic plays best in semis and finals, but he plays even better against Ned/Fed. Still, it depends on how much he wants the Madrid title.
Djokovic in 3, but Thiem could easily beat him. I only really care about Rome and RG anyway, although another masters is great
Djokovic in 3, but Thiem could easily beat him. I only really care about Rome and RG anyway, although another masters is great
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
This is massive for both of these guys going forward. I think it saps whoever loses confidence in a big way.
I also feel nadal is improving as we speak, and he will be gunning for whoever wins, if he makes the final.
I feel Djokovic needs this win more IMO.
Most anticipated match of the clay season so far.Really looking forward to it.
I also feel nadal is improving as we speak, and he will be gunning for whoever wins, if he makes the final.
I feel Djokovic needs this win more IMO.
Most anticipated match of the clay season so far.Really looking forward to it.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
It's a good thing that Djokovic-Thiem is first, let's not waste a Saturday evening on Nadal vs Tsitsipas lol
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, Im benched and ready for this!
TheAssassin
Legend
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Deleted member 77403
Guest
This match has Main Event written all over it.
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Deleted member 77403
Guest
Eye of the tiger played as Djokovic makes an entrance. @Hitman loving it I am sure.
You better believe it.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
I think thiem is the slight favourite as he has more matches under his belt and been in better form. However, Novak is improving again and looking to peak for Paris! I think this will go 3 sets, these are both the only 2 who have a chance of beating Nadal at RG! Will be interesting!
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Let's go...
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
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MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm excited. Hope Thiem is up to the challenge and Fedr didn't die for nothing.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
The first rally doesn't look good. Thiem had the whole court open but for some reason he decided to hit a drop shot, and he missed.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Djokovic average first serve speed at MC: 184 km
Madrid: 196 km
TC just showed the graphic.
Madrid: 196 km
TC just showed the graphic.
TheIntrovert
Hall of Fame
Thiem winning this tournament after not only beating Fedalovic back to back to back, but also managing to beat Opelka would be incredible
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Deleted member 77403
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Just heard that Djokovic didn't having a winning H2H against top 10 players overall in a season until 2011.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
It said 192 kmh for Madrid on ESPN. Also said he has had 43% serves unreturned this week, compared to 15% at MC. That's quite the increase....
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
All thanks to A-Rod, obviously.
Meles
Bionic Poster
I thought I saw some disturbingly good service stats from him in the last few matches. Unbroken in two matches at Madrid. Did he not do this in Shanghai to match Zedzilla's Masters feat?
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Deleted member 77403
Guest
That Thiem slice has a sick bite off the dirt
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Thiem was already a great clay courter in 2017 and 2018 but he has improved so much this year.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Two straight UE's from Novak.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Djoko plays more into Thiem's wheelhouse.
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