The most appealing thing about these is that they don't have a white/off-white/ultra light gray sole on them. I'd buy them for that alone.
NikeCourt Zoom Vapor 11 (2023)
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The most appealing thing about these is that they don't have a white/off-white/ultra light gray sole on them. I'd buy them for that alone.
David Le
Hall of Fame
ZVC4 is up to it’s 3rd this coming year. Introduced in 2020
d-quik
Hall of Fame
Wow you are right. Seemed like it was around for WAY longer!
Babolast
Legend
I do and no I won't be posting.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
No word on the Cage 4 replacement though right?
Do you know if there will be any new color ways for the court nxt? I see all the current models on sale. Curious if it will be discontinued after the launch of the new vapors? Thanks!
David Le
Hall of Fame
Two new colorways are coming soon.
Approximate timeline, E.G. early '23?
Why not?
Because if he post them, TT removes them and warns Babolast....
!<-_->!
Hall of Fame
Are you able to comment whether the shoe is fundamentally the same as the old one and they're just launching new colorways that you can't share?
Babolast
Legend
Looks exactly the same to me just new colourways.
How do you know they're coming out?
I'm skeptical there will be a 9.5 re-release...why would Nike re-release a shoe synonymous with Federer? And Nike is all about putting out new and "better" models with "better technology (they've failed at that in tennis for years now). I haven't seen any evidence anywhere on the internet...
!<-_->!
Hall of Fame
Why does Jordan brand release retros?
Subway Tennis
Legend
I think a lot of the Jordan brand retros are released because they sell like hotcakes as casual sneakers.
They also do limited releases as an important marketing device to get attention in the sneaker community and reinforce their reputation as not only a sports company but an influential fashion / lifestyle brand by showing how many popular older models / silhouettes they have created.
There are sought after tennis shoe retros that are done for similar reasons (Nike Air Oscillate / Mcenroes / Agassi signatures) but I think with the 9.5 it would have to be for a different reason.
It could be that Nike has realised they have players advocating for the shoe and that there is a big enough market for the shoe in the playing community. Rather than looking at it as a retro, maybe Nike also believes that from a performance standpoint it is still very competitive with current models.
It’s hard to predict with Nike at the moment. There have been some bizarre decisions. The GP Turbo was a revolutionary shoe that sold well, and they scrapped it. Even more confusing were the NikeCourt React Vapor NXT and NikeCourt Zoom NXT - I’ve never seen Nike make a decision that bad with one flagship shoe before, but in this case they did it with two consecutive models that were both awful shoes.
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Babolast
Legend
Good for you.
Maverick13
Semi-Pro
Let’s not forget, Babolast knows all; he’ll just never prove it.
Babolast
Legend
Just goes to show how clueless you are.
XFactorer
Hall of Fame
Totally guessing here based on having had connections with someone who worked for Nike. They plan things out way in advance and they produce catalogs either for internal use or for limited external vendors. And then the Nike Sports schools would get to see these early so they can order team uniforms for the upcoming year (also know from experience). And giant retailers would get to see next-seasons' stuff, too. So, some people outside of Nike would be in the know and some people within Nike would know - but they're not supposed to say anything or share anything because the knowledge is not for message boards.
So at this point, you can look at Babolast's track record and decide if you trust him or not. But he would be jeopardizing his apparent access to insider knowledge if he proved anything to us.
vieterer
New User
So what’s the track record looking like? Seems like he didn’t know about the Vapor Pro’s or the Vapor NXT back in 2021
XFactorer
Hall of Fame
*shrug* I’m not keeping track. Would be interesting to look at… If the V9.5s come out, my credit card company will know. If they don’t, I’ll have the V11 to look forward to. Or both.
Subway Tennis
Legend
I think that’s a very good way of looking at it. Even if we don’t get the 9.5s it does look like there are some fantastic shoes on the horizon.
henrytennisadelaide
Semi-Pro
Maverick13
Semi-Pro
You’re welcome to post the pictures of the new 9.5 and prove me wrong…
Babolast
Legend
Nice try. Respect forum rules and maybe one day you will be respected.
Hi, unfortunately he cannot do it; I guarantee you a few years ago it did but the photos were removed from tt.TW and Babolast was scolded ....
We have to settle for his information or from other users when they have it ... Regards
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Presumably the pics will appear on N!ket@lk soon enough; Babolast’s information should be accurate unless Nike decide to change things up after publication of their dealer catalogues - this happens from time to time.
Subway Tennis
Legend
I wonder if any of these 9.5s are going to make their way onto the Australian Nike site, or are we going to get screwed over like normal
gino
Legend
best way to split the difference on this topic. be at peace with what random other posters decide to share or withhold. shame TT doesnt operate as freely as swoosh talk
bwongman
Rookie
The apparel industry usually comes out with designs and a catalogue almost a year before they are released. This is used by authorized dealers to order from for the next season. I am in this industry and I am currently ordering items for Fall/Winter 2023.
There are probably 2 reasons why Babolast cannot post the pictures. First is that it is against the rules of this forum to do so. Second is that, if he is an authorized seller, he probably has signed an agreement with these apparel companies to keep the information confidential or risk losing the right to sell from the brand. Either way, it is really not worth the risk.
It is just how the industry works. So please be respectful and be happy you get any information at all.
There are probably 2 reasons why Babolast cannot post the pictures. First is that it is against the rules of this forum to do so. Second is that, if he is an authorized seller, he probably has signed an agreement with these apparel companies to keep the information confidential or risk losing the right to sell from the brand. Either way, it is really not worth the risk.
It is just how the industry works. So please be respectful and be happy you get any information at all.
Potential timeline you can share?
Salomonzar12
New User
Are you awesome!
bert96
Rookie
Sry, i didnt specify my question, i meant the vapor 9.5
XFactorer
Hall of Fame
Nostalgia.
Also, the forefoot/mid-foot fit was more accommodating to many foot types. It was a generally-loved blend of lightweight and performance. The biggest knock was usually the durability.
