2019 Miami Final: Federer [4] vs Isner [7]

[Mark-Touch]

I just think he's one too much already we've been watching the sky for 20 years now I thought he was going to fade down the rankings and retire like normal old men

Here let me help you polish your English a bit, you young Fed-hater:

"I just think he's one won too much already. we've We've been watching the sky this guy for 20 years now. I thought he was going to fade down the rankings and retire like normal old men."

 

[Mark-Touch]

Yes he could, however Kyrgios would then go on to beat Djokovic, Federer and Nadal to win his first of 9 US Open titles.

And let's not forget Zverev too!

 

[Cfidave]

PFFFT !!! How does FED get all these EASY final wins?? Has he played anyone in the Finals this year, that isn't missing a leg or gone blind over night?? Weak draws I say !!

Before Isner got injured, Fed was beating on him like a drum. The result would have been the same, injury or not. If Isner is not getting a ton of free points on his serve, he is toast.

 

[Mark-Touch]

PFFFT !!! How does FED get all these EASY final wins?? Has he played anyone in the Finals this year, that isn't missing a leg or gone blind over night?? Weak draws I say !!

How quickly you forget?
Why it was just last week...
And Fed did a number on Tsitsi.
He one-upped him by claiming the better record in the last two tournies!

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

You're accusing him of something he didn't say; to the contrary, he was quick to point out that it wouldn't have made any difference to the outcome if he hadn't suffered the injury. Maybe you're projecting a tad?

These accusations make you wonder how someone with a genuinely painful foot would be expected to act... How dare he hobble about and get upset. I don't think Isner has a history of 'timely' injuries neither.

 

[tennis_pro]

Incredible, Federer has won two out of the last three Miami titles, past his 35th birthday. These conditions were some of the worst for him on a hard court, but now a four time champion.

fedr strong, agassian/novack we war you

 

[ductrung3993]

You're accusing him of something he didn't say; to the contrary, he was quick to point out that it wouldn't have made any difference to the outcome if he hadn't suffered the injury. Maybe you're projecting a tad?

My statement was made before the speech, and during his antics so different context. And to my experience, people who have projecting tendency are those that are quick to point that quality to another

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

Fed broke Isner right out of the box.

And that was pretty much it, injury or no injury - no need for the naked eye to overthink this.
.

 

[tudwell]

Here let me help you polish your English a bit, you young Fed-hater:

"I just think he's one won too much already. we've We've been watching the sky this guy for 20 years now. I thought he was going to fade down the rankings and retire like normal old men."

AndyM is a prose stylist beyond our ken. TTW's very own James Joyce. No more butchering his beautiful prose poems!

 

[tenisdecente]

And this guy continues to amaze. Time to go 1988 and put that Depeche Mode album live....

 

[PrinceMoron]

Here let me help you polish your English a bit, you young Fed-hater:

"I just think he's one won too much already. we've We've been watching the sky this guy for 20 years now. I thought he was going to fade down the rankings and retire like normal old men."

46 is not young, even in Fed years

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[Mark-Touch]

46 is not young, even in Fed years

Yes you are right.
I hadn't taken the time to review his personal data.
I just assumed someone so daft had to be green between the ears.

 

[stringertom]

46 is not young, even in Fed years

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Ironic he shares a birthday with stringytom, @natalia and @Smasher08 , three of the most loyal BOTE members.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Here let me help you polish your English a bit, you young Fed-hater:

"I just think he's one won too much already. we've We've been watching the sky this guy for 20 years now. I thought he was going to fade down the rankings and retire like normal old men."

Oh thank you for the translation.

Good to know we have someone who speaks @AndyM . "the sky" = "this guy", excellent.

 

[EloQuent]

Wait so the guy losing it over Federer's age is 46?

Must be a PETE fan, or even McEnroe / Borg.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Wait so the guy losing it over Federer's age is 46?

Must be a PETE fan, or even McEnroe / Borg.

This forum seems extremely middle aged lately tbh.

 

[natalia]

Ironic he shares a birthday with stringytom, @natalia and @Smasher08 , three of the most loyal BOTE members.

AndyM needs a hug - just doesn’t know how to get one. Poor thing....

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Wait so the guy losing it over Federer's age is 46?

Must be a PETE fan, or even McEnroe / Borg.

PETE smokes the competition.

 

[Fedforever]

FEDERER TOPS ISNER FOR 4TH MIAMI, 28TH MASTERS AND 101ST OVERALL TITLE

That one could have been better phrased.

 

[BeatlesFan]

That one could have been better phrased.

Fixed it for you.

FEDERER TOPS ISNER FOR 9th WIMBLEDON TITLE AND 103rd OVERALL TITLE

A headline coming in July.

 

[Red Rick]

Fixed it for you.

FEDERER TOPS ISNER FOR 9th WIMBLEDON TITLE AND 103rd OVERALL TITLE

A headline coming in July.

I don't know which of the 2 I hate worse. Fed winning again or Isner finalling. Probably Isner making the final

 

[smoledman]

PETE smokes the competition.

What do you call 2004-2007?

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

What do you call 2004-2007?

You have to ask? #WeakEra

 

[3fees]

Congrats to Federer blnt Isner,,Been busy .

Cheers
3Fees

 

[stringertom]

Wait so the guy losing it over Federer's age is 46?

Must be a PETE fan, or even McEnroe / Borg.

60’s Weed is back!

 

[Silence]

60’s Weed is back!

About time! It’s been quiet around here..

 

[oldmanfan]

Fixed it for you.

FEDERER TOPS ISNER FOR 9th WIMBLEDON TITLE AND 103rd OVERALL TITLE

A headline coming in July.

RF#102:

FEDERER TOPS ISNER FOR 2nd ROLAND GARROS TITLE AND 102nd OVERALL TITLE

After winning WB19 over Isner, Fedr will have the distinguished achievement of being the only player to beat Isner 3x in finals in one year. Another record.

 

[Smasher08]

AndyM is a prose stylist beyond our ken. [. . .] No more butchering his beautiful prose poems!

I reJoyce in them.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Link in super HD that isn't 3 minutes behind anyone?

Would you like to join our streams conversation in which we have pretty interesting, non-malware streams?

 

[tennis_pro]

Would you like to join our streams conversation in which we have pretty interesting, non-malware streams?

what's that, who's there knock knock

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

what's that, who's there knock knock

We have beatlesfan, red rick, sport, true fanerer etc rational people there
The streams are HD and work for AO, all masters, 500 and Wtf

 

[tennis_pro]

We have beatlesfan, red rick, sport, true fanerer etc rational people there
The streams are HD and work for AO, all masters, 500 and Wtf

ok, let me see what you're doing there, let me know

 

[EloQuent]

No worries either way but I'd join a stream too if invited.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

We have beatlesfan, red rick, sport, true fanerer etc rational people there
The streams are HD and work for AO, all masters, 500 and Wtf

Sounds good; what's the secret word??

 

[smoledman]

From MTF:

The key for Roger's winning these days is not his serve, contrary to popular belief.

It is the quality of his return play.

In all of his losing matches of the past two years, his returns points won percentage fell below 34%.

4‑Mar‑2019 Indian Wells Masters (7)Dominic Thiem [AUT] d. (4)Federer 3-6 6-3 7-5 33.0%
14‑Jan‑2019 Australian Open (14)Stefanos Tsitsipas [GRE] d. (3)Federer 6-7(11) 7-6(3) 7-5 7-6(5) 27.7%

12‑Nov‑2018 Tour Finals (3)Alexander Zverev [GER] d. (2)Federer 7-5 7-6(5) 20.0%
12‑Nov‑2018 Tour Finals (7)Kei Nishikori [JPN] d. (2)Federer 7-6(4) 6-3 29.4%
29‑Oct‑2018 Paris Masters (2)Novak Djokovic [SRB] d. (3)Federer 7-6(6) 5-7 7-6(3) 25.7%
8‑Oct‑2018 Shanghai Masters (13)Borna Coric [CRO] d. (1)Federer 6-4 6-4 18.4%
27‑Aug‑2018 Us Open John Millman [AUS] d. (2)Federer 3-6 7-5 7-6(7) 7-6(3) 30.6%
13‑Aug‑2018 Cincinnati Masters (10)Novak Djokovic [SRB] d. (2)Federer 6-4 6-4 26.4%
2‑Jul‑2018 Wimbledon (8)Kevin Anderson [RSA] d. (1)Federer 2-6 6-7(5) 7-5 6-4 13-11 31.7%
18‑Jun‑2018 Halle Borna Coric [CRO] d. (1)Federer 7-6(6) 3-6 6-2 32.7%
19‑Mar‑2018 Miami Masters (Q)Thanasi Kokkinakis [AUS] d. (1)Federer 3-6 6-3 7-6(4) 33.6%
5‑Mar‑2018 Indian Wells Masters (6)Juan Martin Del Potro [ARG] d. (1)Federer 6-4 6-7(8) 7-6(2) 27.8%
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Note that there were only 3 matches in 2018-2019 that Federer won when his return point won pct. went below 33%:
25‑Feb‑2019 Dubai (2)Federer d. Fernando Verdasco [ESP] 6-3 3-6 6-3 30.0%
18‑Jun‑2018 Halle (1)Federer d. (Q)Denis Kudla [USA] 7-6(1) 7-5 32.4%
11‑Jun‑2018 Stuttgart (1)Federer d. (7)Milos Raonic [CAN] 6-4 7-6(3) 27.9%

The key to getting these wins was that his opponents' return percentage was even worse than Federer's. Verdasco: 25.6%, Kudla: 26.7%, Raonic: 22.7% - Of course, return win pct. is generally expected to be lower on grass or on faster surfaces.
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In Miami, here were Federer's return point wonpercentages:

(4)Federer d. (7)John Isner [USA] 6-1 6-4 43.4%
(4)Federer d. (20)Denis Shapovalov [CAN] 6-2 6-4 44.8%
(4)Federer d. (6)Kevin Anderson [RSA] 6-0 6-4 52.0%
(4)Federer d. (13)Daniil Medvedev [RUS] 6-4 6-2 39.2%
(4)Federer d. Filip Krajinovic [SRB] 7-5 6-3 43.9%
(4)Federer d. (Q)Radu Albot [MDA] 4-6 7-5 6-3 36.6%

Federer's return was very sharp for the last 3 matches and it needed to be, and was significant in earning him the wins.

Respectfully,
masterclass

 

[Red Rick]

It's also a huge indicaation that he stopped being garbage at the baseline.

 

[smoledman]

Well the key in Miami were 4 things:

1. Did whatever he needed to survive #OurBoyRadu
2. The effectiveness of his 1st serve, when he has making it.
3. Making tons of returns, neutralizing most points on that.
4. Taking initiative on most neutral rallies and not making many errors.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

ok, let me see what you're doing there, let me know

No worries either way but I'd join a stream too if invited.

Sounds good; what's the secret word??

Inviting all 3 of you there...
Welcome my friends

 

[EloQuent]

Inviting all 3 of you there...
Welcome my friends

I must have missed it, where?

 

[underground]

From MTF:

Spot on, I was actually going to mention something similar along these lines, uncanny that this has popped up today.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

I must have missed it, where?

Conversation

 

[VaporDude95]

Congrats to Federer blnt Isner,,Been busy .

Cheers
3Fees

What does blnt mean? Genuine question.

Does it stand for bacon, lettuce, Nutella and tomato?

Or better luck next time?

 

[Mark-Touch]

Federer beating lame nothing-burger two-timing Isner,,

 

[3fees]

What does blnt mean? Genuine question.

Does it stand for bacon, lettuce, Nutella and tomato?

Or better luck next time?

Bacon, Lettuce, and Tomato or better luck next time

Cheers
3Fees

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

What does blnt mean? Genuine question.

Does it stand for bacon, lettuce, Nutella and tomato?

Or better luck next time?

I always read it as blunt.