2019 Roland Garros FINAL: Rafael Nadal vs Dominic Thiem

[VaporDude95]

You need to watch court level views of Nadal's shots. The camera angle doesn't do them justice. They look like moonballs from above, but in reality they are 3500rpm rockets traveling at an average speed of about 78 mph.

Nadal has one of the highest average shot speed on tour. Right there with Del Potro.

They’re moonballs. I’ve seen the camera angle and I can tell when they’re floating.

Almost every shot from Thiem is faster too

 

[Subway Tennis]

We're not talking about 2014. That was 5 years ago and a match where Djokovic was throwing up on court. I'm saying based on what I have seen so far, Rafa is not as great today as he has been the last few weeks and Djokovic would have had his chances. Thiem was terrible in set 3 and spraying everything, although Rafa did pick up his level.

A final against Djokovic wouldn't have played out like this. Djokovic never makes these types of mental lapses against Nadal in majors, or at least he hasn't for a long, long time. And Nadal vs Djokovic is played with a different mental power dynamic imo, which affects Nadal.

 

[junior74]

Look at the positives, the grass season starts in 15 minutes.

Nine months without moonballs ahead of us

 

[zagor]

Dang nab it. Doll will likely get smoked by Fed or another then before the final.

Depends on how high the bounce is this year, last Wimbledon it was outrageous.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Thiem doesn’t look tired so i don’t wanna hear that crap.

 

[Lozo1016]

After last year's debacle, Them put forth a performance he can be more proud of today.

 

[Next Gen Volleys]

Thiem looking better. Hopefully he will go out with a fight now.

 

[VaporDude95]

Shhh.

Ah yes, typical

 

[marksn]

is rafa ever getting tired?

 

[zagor]

My bagel prediction still on track.

 

[TripleATeam]

Wait! Thiem says not over yet folks!

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Look at the positives, the grass season starts in 15 minutes.

LOL.

 

[swordtennis]

Yeah the one hander is a liability here.

 

[TU87]

The adrenaline Thiem mentioned yesterday in his presser is gone

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Great serving by nadal.

 

[AndyM]

Djokovic would never miss so many easy returns like team does

 

[Standaa]

Look at the positives, the grass season starts in 15 minutes.

And it lasts like 15 minutes, sadly.

 

[Atherton2003]

Thiem's picking his nose now

 

[VaporDude95]

Depends on how high the bounce is this year, last Wimbledon it was outrageous.

Last years weather was well out of the ordinary.

This year it’s supposed to be much cooler.

Bye bye Nadal

 

[augustobt]

Another BP that came and went by for thiem

 

[Atherton2003]

Nadal is relentless...fiercest competitor...in any sport....period.

 

[cucio]

Thiemanimal backhand.

 

[zagor]

Nadal escapes Djokovic yet again. Must have had a party last night when he saw what happened.

Sad.

Novak's fault honestly, he played a terrible match against Thiem.

 

[MeatTornado]

The fact that he's actually getting BPs is more depressing

 

[ibbi]

Djokovic would never miss so many easy returns like team does

How many times you going to bring up a guy that lost fair and square to one of the guys standing out here now?

 

[Steve0904]

Not theoretically possible, they're on opposite halves.

Isn't it? I thought Fed could be the #2 seed if he won Halle and Nadal didn't pick up any points.

 

[TheIntrovert]

apart from that third set, it’s been a very competitive match

 

[ACE of Hearts]

I thought thiem was tired? Lol the guy looks like he could go another set.

 

[MajesticMoose]

Moya looking like a homeless guy with ball cap on.

 

[swordtennis]

Depends on how high the bounce is this year, last Wimbledon it was outrageous.

Do not think it will be that bad for Fed. He is hitting the forehand from what I see heavier and flatter than he has for years.

 

[True Fanerer]

Uncle Toni looks happy

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Thiem still fighting .

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

How many of his lobs have landed on the line in the last three days...

 

[Next Gen Volleys]

Beautiful defence by Thiem.

 

[NoleFam]

LOL feeling sarcastic today after the choads and their fake news bs. Lousy hate filled mouth breathers. lol.

Didn't you love the fake news of Novak storming out the other day after bullying the organizers to suspend the match and without waiting to see if the match would be called? The lengths some of these people will go...

 

[MeatTornado]

Hitting so many lines this game

 

[Noleberic123]

Nadal is molesting Thiem's backhand

 

[Deleted member 763999]

Shhh.

Forget it man, this guy got no class, unlike Federer.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

The fact that he's actually getting BPs is more depressing

We’ve watched enough Federer to not react to break points anymore.

 

[VaporDude95]

Another missed opportunity from Thiem

Ugh

 

[TripleATeam]

Another BP for Thiem...

 

[NoleFam]

A final against Djokovic wouldn't have played out like this. Djokovic never makes these types of mental lapses against Nadal in majors, or at least he hasn't for a long, long time. And Nadal vs Djokovic is played with a different mental power dynamic imo, which affects Nadal.

Exactly, which is what I was saying. I'm not sure how anyone else doesn't get that valid point you just made.

 

[augustobt]

Another netted ROS on BP. Can't believe that.

 

[AndyM]

I've never seen a guy Miss so many easy returns

 

[MeatTornado]

How do you let Nadal servebot his way out of trouble on clay like it's Isner at Wimbledon?

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Just too good by nadal.

 

[mikej]

You need to watch court level views of Nadal's shots. The camera angle doesn't do them justice. They look like moonballs from above, but in reality they are 3500rpm rockets traveling at an average speed of about 78 mph.

Nadal has one of the highest average shot speed on tour. Right there with Del Potro.

yep, there's a reason people who call nadal a "pusher" or "moonballer" never provide any data to support such claims - data flies directly in the face of any such claims

for example, in this match, at this point:
winners - 32 to 25 nadal
net points - 21 to 13 nadal
he's the attacking player in this match

i've provided the australian open average forehand and backhand miles per hour data from several years ago several times in the past on talk TW (the only such data i'm aware of - will find it again shortly), and it supports nadal being a bigger hitting baseliner than federer (especially off the backhand wing)

but data doesn't matter to people who like to try to take away from nadal's incredible accomplishments, and who are probably in most instances absolute garbage athletes and 3.5 tennis players themselves who barely understand tennis

 

[Krish872007]

Thiem is mentally fatigued, not physically. Nadal is too intense for a bit too long in these kinds of matches

 

[AndyM]

Teams return position is horrible

 

[Steve0904]

Thiem's return position is disgusting. He hasn't made either return on BPs either. Reminds me of watching Federer and I didn't want that today.