California Girls - Indian Wells WTA Discussion
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Tanya
Hall of Fame
One good game doesn't have me convinced, though you're welcome to hold onto that as much as you like Love Game
So true!
Lol @ Petrova... "I feel like I'm doing all the work"
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Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
tee hee ...
good coaching advice to nadia there @ 2-3 ... hope she can put it into practice this time ... coach told her last time and she didnt follow it then
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one thing her coach said was she was swinging too slowly on the second serves .... then, of course, she holds next serve without needing a second serve
good coaching advice to nadia there @ 2-3 ... hope she can put it into practice this time ... coach told her last time and she didnt follow it then
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one thing her coach said was she was swinging too slowly on the second serves .... then, of course, she holds next serve without needing a second serve
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tennisbuck
Hall of Fame
Hopefully that can be a good confidence booster for Caroline. Even still I don't give her much chance in the quarters.
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
agreed. tho i usually diss piotr for not giving caro the space to win on her own, in the case of her facing vika, i'll put aside my dislike, cuz piotr for sure knows (mentally, that is) how to beat vika ..... he's done it in Doha 2009, Tokyo 2010, and Indian Wells 2011.
And believe it or not, Caroline beat Victoria at the US Open in 2008 ... which means she did it on her own, without Piotr.
Youre right that Caro's self-confidence is fragile right now ... but based on the above and the fact that Vika's not at her best yet ... I believe Caro has a pretty good chance!
Luckily, they both have the day off Wednesday ...
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
So Kiri is now sponsored by Stella McCartney too, in addition to Caro ..... that's good on her .... skirts look much better than some of those all revealing postage stamps she used to wear! :shock:
Miss Kitty serving 2-3
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huh? did Kiri just break to love?
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LOL ... Miss Kitty breaks to love, 3-4 ..... WELCOME to the WTA!!! :lol:
Miss Kitty serving 2-3
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huh? did Kiri just break to love?
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LOL ... Miss Kitty breaks to love, 3-4 ..... WELCOME to the WTA!!! :lol:
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SassyRamirez
Banned
Love Game, you can't compare the Azarenka of 2008/2009/2010/etc to the Azarenka of 2012+.
She's a lot better now and has transformed her game to a less error-prone high-percentage grinding style; Azarenka's current game is tailor-made to destroy defensive based opponents like Wozniacki/Radwanska/et al.
Wozniacki will be lucky that she's facing an Azarenka who's playing like absolute crap right now and is sick though, otherwise she'd most likely get the beatdown of a lifetime ala what Azarenka does to Radwanska.
She's a lot better now and has transformed her game to a less error-prone high-percentage grinding style; Azarenka's current game is tailor-made to destroy defensive based opponents like Wozniacki/Radwanska/et al.
Wozniacki will be lucky that she's facing an Azarenka who's playing like absolute crap right now and is sick though, otherwise she'd most likely get the beatdown of a lifetime ala what Azarenka does to Radwanska.
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
bit of an exaggeration your prediction! pfffffft :twisted:
course H2H is a comparison .....
Narcissist
Semi-Pro
Damn Woz looks some plastic porn star in that pic
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Kvitova AO 2013 is back?
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
kvitova misses six serves in a row and throws the second set away with both hands! :shock:
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Have you noticed that whenever caroline's name comes up in a victoria interview that vika gets a sneer on her face. of course, she quickly covers it up, but ... too late ... we've already seen the truth. It's the kind of envy displayed by Salieri toward Mozart in "Amadeus."
i'm sure it absolutely chaps vika's hide that she (whom she obviously believes to be the superior player) has been in the same league with caroline ever since caroline came on the scene (two years AFTER Vika), yet all along caroline had the better record, becoming world no. 1 ahead of vika and holding the no. 1 spot despite challenges by vika and all the rest) ... until caro met rory ...
Weeks @ World no. 1:
WOZNIACKI
-18 weeks ..... total 18
one week in between for Clijsters
- 49 weeks ..... total 67
AZARENKA
- 19 weeks ..... total 19
four weeks in between for Sharapova
- 32 weeks ..... total 61
AZARENKA CAREER TOTAL Wins/Losses: 235-69
WOZNIACKI CAREER TOTAL Wins/Losses: 266-89
As we know by Vika's history of multiple withdrawals and retirements, her record is skewed artificially by her "cowardice" ... that hurts!
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Have you noticed that whenever caroline's name comes up in a victoria interview that vika gets a sneer on her face. of course, she quickly covers it up, but ... too late ... we've already seen the truth. It's the kind of envy displayed by Salieri toward Mozart in "Amadeus."
i'm sure it absolutely chaps vika's hide that she (whom she obviously believes to be the superior player) has been in the same league with caroline ever since caroline came on the scene (two years AFTER Vika), yet all along caroline had the better record, becoming world no. 1 ahead of vika and holding the no. 1 spot despite challenges by vika and all the rest) ... until caro met rory ...
Weeks @ World no. 1:
WOZNIACKI
-18 weeks ..... total 18
one week in between for Clijsters
- 49 weeks ..... total 67
AZARENKA
- 19 weeks ..... total 19
four weeks in between for Sharapova
- 32 weeks ..... total 61
AZARENKA CAREER TOTAL Wins/Losses: 235-69
WOZNIACKI CAREER TOTAL Wins/Losses: 266-89
As we know by Vika's history of multiple withdrawals and retirements, her record is skewed artificially by her "cowardice" ... that hurts!
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
And because of her we now have to endure a third set of this match, instead of watching Wawrinka and Fed. Thanks a lot, Kvitova.
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
You must have picked my brain?
What is up with this delay, it's bad enough we're in a 3rd set...
Man, is she crying again?
Duncan Bell
Hall of Fame
Kirilenko hitting some mean shots.
Duncan Bell
Hall of Fame
And Petra on the double fault wagon. Really surprised by this. Thought if she was going to melt it would be earlier.
Kiri's to lose now really.
Kiri's to lose now really.
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Who's the commentator? He sounds p!ssed having to call this 3rd set. Haha.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
HOW MUCH LONGER IS THIS GOING TO TAKE!?????
GOD! 2 hours of play and they barely started the 3rd set.
GOD! 2 hours of play and they barely started the 3rd set.
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
and some people CLAIM that men play more hours per year than women do! :roll: :roll:
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
and some people CLAIM that men play more hours per year than women do! :roll: :roll:
Because they do.
But there's quality to go with quantity!!
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
and some people CLAIM that men play more hours per year than women do! :roll: :roll:
The first 25mins of this 3rd set was wardrobe changes, followed by the onslaught of aces and double faults by Kvitova. That's why it took so long, that 2nd game just didn't end.
TheF1Bob
Banned
Exactly, the Rafito and Novak matches are where they are at. :twisted:
Anything involving Simon too.
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Who said anything about WTA being a good product.
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Finally Kirilenko wins it. After Kvitova gave up the break in that second set, I knew she was going to lose the match.
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Or we could watch Sharapova shriek while Kvitova mindbeeps herself. Can't see how that's any better.
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
prove it!
That match was two-and-a-half hours.
What's Feddy's average time per match? and how many matches does he play per year?
hmmmmm? :???:
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
why futz with all this bother? when you could have been watching the nice, quiet berdych/gasquet match?
Because Tennis Channel wouldn't show it... They like the ladies.
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
revisionist history is only effective at a time DISTANCE! :twisted:
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
best-of-3 in GS and Davis Cup. Nuff said.
Well Federer USUALLY doesn't play long matches but I take a 1 hour Federer match against a journeyman over 3 hours of the best WTA tennis currently possible. Why? Because I will always have it on the back of my mind that the same journeyman who Federer routines 2 and 3 without breaking a set would double golden set Serena in an actual match.
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Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
MELT ..... you may actually have something there ..... some people just do not do well in the heat .... I'm one of those people .... it's in the 90's there today .... that's melting weather in my book ... maybe in Petra's too
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tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
More like Federer-Wawrinka which is coming up next.
President
Legend
. . . hope you dont gamble much!
MELT ..... you may actually have something there ..... some people just do not do well in the heat .... I'm one of those people .... it's in the 90's there today .... that's melting weather in my book.
Are you a professional athlete though? Kvitova REALLY should be in better shape..
Semis I mean
shogun90
Rookie
So much talent, but she just drives me crazy. She should be top 4 and destroy all those below her.
You make a valid point... But how much good would getting fitter really do her? If she has to run, she's gonna lose anyway. She likes to be on top of the baseline, pounding the ball.
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
all beside the point:
i asked about the actual time in reality, not just some general statement. I personally would like an accounting of the hours. women's serve is weaker than men's because of her height and shoulder strength. therefore, her serve is more susceptible to being broken by the ground game of her opponent ... thus leading to longer games, imo.
i was scoffing at the statement that the men play more hours per year than the women do ... I don't believe that, and I've never seen any proof to the contrary.
K?
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