XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Had mine (all black) for about 5 weeks. Still love them (yeah, some of the styling is 'quirky' but still not as bad looking as they did in the leaked photos last year). Feel like slippers; only the tiniest signs of wear on the bottoms.
Have you noticed any wear on the shank plate?
 

FiReFTW

Legend
Why did they even bother making the wide version if all they do is put out colorways for regular versions??? And also we have almost no colorways anyway, only a limited few, what the feck Nike??
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
Why did they even bother making the wide version if all they do is put out colorways for regular versions??? And also we have almost no colorways anyway, only a limited few, what the feck Nike??

I'm sure there are going to be a massive amount of different color ways coming over the next 24 months... as they did with previous lines
 

Sixpointone

Professional
As an FYI for those interested, I got to see the white pair in person. The sole itself, and part of the inner side of the shoe is a lighter color grey, as opposed to being 100% white. I think it looks nice, but I'd prefer it to be all white.
 

Devil_dog

Hall of Fame
I wonder if Jason from the TW review (@TW Staff) could provide a bit more insight about the fit. The video mentioned he has a wide fit but didn't much of an issue with the shoe. I, too, have a wide fit and had no issues with the 9/9.5 version but with the X, it felt extremely tight. I really want to like this version since there's no other Nike tennis shoe that fits my feet the way Vapors have in the past. I'm hoping the shoe I tried on was just a QC issue, so I'll likely be trying on another pair for comparison.

edit: I do know they make a wider version but Nike seemingly only has one option for style/color choice. If Nike offered up the other styles in the wide, then my concerns may be moot.
 

TW Staff

Administrator
I wonder if Jason from the TW review (@TW Staff) could provide a bit more insight about the fit. The video mentioned he has a wide fit but didn't much of an issue with the shoe. I, too, have a wide fit and had no issues with the 9/9.5 version but with the X, it felt extremely tight. I really want to like this version since there's no other Nike tennis shoe that fits my feet the way Vapors have in the past. I'm hoping the shoe I tried on was just a QC issue, so I'll likely be trying on another pair for comparison.

edit: I do know they make a wider version but Nike seemingly only has one option for style/color choice. If Nike offered up the other styles in the wide, then my concerns may be moot.

For me, the fit of the regular Vapor X wasn't an issue because the uppers are soft enough that the stretch out to accommodate my foot. I also don't have an extremely wide foot as I'm an E. So if you have a 2E or 4E, then going up to the wide version would probably be best.

Jason, TW
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
For me, the fit of the regular Vapor X wasn't an issue because the uppers are soft enough that the stretch out to accommodate my foot. I also don't have an extremely wide foot as I'm an E. So if you have a 2E or 4E, then going up to the wide version would probably be best.

Jason, TW
did you feel any difference in cushioning from previous version ? did you guys think it was exactly same or slightly improved cushioning ?
 

Tyler91

Rookie
IMHO, the materials comprising the upper are cheap-looking. The 9 and 9.5 were premium shoes and the X kind of looks like a $80 discount version. I've purchased probably 35 pairs of the 9 and 9.5 over the past 6 years. I'm out. Tried the Court FF this week and I think that's my new ride.
 
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Jmauer

Semi-Pro
IMHO, the materials comprising the upper are cheap-looking. The 9 and 9.5 were premium shoes and the X kind of looks like a $80 discount version. I've purchased probably 35 pairs of the 9 and 9.5 over the past 6 years. I'm out. Tried the Court FF this week and I think that's my new ride.

Couldn't agree with you more. I'm so disappointed with this iteration. Vapor is the flagship tennis shoe by Nike and it looks like they sucker-punched us with this one!

Take one look at their basketball shoes. Premium design and materials.

We got the shaaaaaaaaaaft!!!
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
Interesting that the shoe is supposed to have improved durability, yet one of the reviewers said he would wear through it 1-2 weeks? Is that even possible?
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
Couldn't agree with you more. I'm so disappointed with this iteration. Vapor is the flagship tennis shoe by Nike and it looks like they sucker-punched us with this one!

Take one look at their basketball shoes. Premium design and materials.

We got the shaaaaaaaaaaft!!!
COMPLETELY different application of the shoes. And a COMPLETELY different durability/support requirement. I love my KDs... but id roll an ankle and die wearing those on a court... or they'd last all of 5 hours.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Interesting that the shoe is supposed to have improved durability, yet one of the reviewers said he would wear through it 1-2 weeks? Is that even possible?
yes it is possible. James Blake once said, he would totally destroy his tennis shoe in less than 2 weeks and he would need new shoes every 10-14 days and that was costing him ton of money. and once he got a contract with shoe company and started getting free shoes, it was heaven sent.
 

Devil_dog

Hall of Fame
Interesting that the shoe is supposed to have improved durability, yet one of the reviewers said he would wear through it 1-2 weeks? Is that even possible?

I may have to watch the review again but my impression about durability referred to the sole and when the reviewer mentioned he would wear through the shoe was possibly talking about the upper which at first glance does seem flimsier than the last generation.
 

Devil_dog

Hall of Fame
Interesting that the shoe is supposed to have improved durability, yet one of the reviewers said he would wear through it 1-2 weeks? Is that even possible?

I may have to watch the review again but my impression about durability referred to the sole and when the reviewer mentioned he would wear through the shoe was possibly talking about the upper
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
COMPLETELY different application of the shoes. And a COMPLETELY different durability/support requirement. I love my KDs... but id roll an ankle and die wearing those on a court... or they'd last all of 5 hours.

Maybe I wasn’t clear - I was saying they make excellent products for their basketball lines, whereas this seems like a poor effort for Tennis. I don’t know if they didn’t want to pay/couldn’t get Tinker for the X or what - but they have the resources regardless to produce and excellent product for Tennis - which it appears they did not.
 

Vanhalen

Professional
Two things scare me about the X.....width and court slippage. I love a grippy shoe for changing direction. Also I have a tender peroneal tendon and tight shoes kill my left foot.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Two things scare me about the X.....width and court slippage. I love a grippy shoe for changing direction. Also I have a tender peroneal tendon and tight shoes kill my left foot.
one of the reviewers said when you need the Grip on the court, it is there, but when you need to slide, you can do that too.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
May be in the minority, but like these better than 9.5s
I’m not ready to go there yet - I’ll probably wait to go thru 2 pairs - but I’m still quite happy with them. I know not everyone can plunk down $140 to test a new shoe but I think if they did they’d be pleasantly surprised.

Interesting that the shoe is supposed to have improved durability, yet one of the reviewers said he would wear through it 1-2 weeks? Is that even possible?
Agree. Need some context from that person; what shoes they’ve gotten reasonable wear out of.
 

ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
I’m not ready to go there yet - I’ll probably wait to go thru 2 pairs - but I’m still quite happy with them. I know not everyone can plunk down $140 to test a new shoe but I think if they did they’d be pleasantly surprised.

Agree. Need some context from that person; what shoes they’ve gotten reasonable wear out of.

Probably says he goes through barricades in 4 weeks.

Patiently waiting for the “Jordan” Vapor x to go on sale so I can pick another pair up. I am of the age where that original Jordan color is my weakness.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Probably says he goes through barricades in 4 weeks.

Patiently waiting for the “Jordan” Vapor x to go on sale so I can pick another pair up. I am of the age where that original Jordan color is my weakness.
:)

Have you seen them in person? The red is brighter than the pics. And more attractive IMHO - I I will grab a pair too. You and I will clean up on Vapor X’s if no one else wants them - on sale and little fear of not having our sizes.
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
@TW Staff can you tell us any info about a possible Vapor Legacy shoe to come in 2018 (Something akin to the 9/9.5)?

If so, do you know if it will be a take down (a la Vapor Advantage or Oscillate XX) or if it will be a top shelf performance shoe?

Thanks in advance!
 

Frans Bleker

Professional
Here's the review I posted to the Tennis Warehouse product detail page:

Coming from Vapor 9.5, my initial reaction is disappointment with Vapor X. Why did Nike decide to narrow the shoe significantly? I am 28 years old and have worn Nike Vapor for the last 10 years in size 9.5 and the beauty of the shoe was each iteration was nearly identical in fit. The shoe has definitely improved from its early days of Federer wearing at the Australian Open each year, however the X is so narrow that I couldn't even walk around my house in them. If you're looking for the same fit as the Vapor 9.5, I would recommend the Vapor X Wide. The wide version arrived today and the fit is much better, however we are limited to only the plain white shoe. The main differences in the X from the 9.5 is the outsole, there is definitely more material in high wear areas. Aside from the outside, the differences are minimal. Would like to see Nike reconsider its width decision with the Vapor 11 if we ever see it. In the meantime, more colorways would be appreciated for Vapor X Wide.

This!
 

ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
:)

Have you seen them in person? The red is brighter than the pics. And more attractive IMHO - I I will grab a pair too. You and I will clean up on Vapor X’s if no one else wants them - on sale and little fear of not having our sizes.


They are great in person and the color I am currently using. Sucker for all things Jordan colors. Not a big RF fan, so passed on the Lava Glow ones because of the RF on the heel. If I could have obtained the same as the pros have (without the big RF), I would have bought that color as well.
 

TW Staff

Administrator
I’m not ready to go there yet - I’ll probably wait to go thru 2 pairs - but I’m still quite happy with them. I know not everyone can plunk down $140 to test a new shoe but I think if they did they’d be pleasantly surprised.

Agree. Need some context from that person; what shoes they’ve gotten reasonable wear out of.

Hi @West Coast Ace,
To provide some context, I was getting about 5-6 weeks out of the Gel Resolution 7s when it was my go-to-shoe last year, but that was to the point of wearing a hole all the way through!
Hope that helps!
-Sean, TW
 
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Hi Sean, Just wondering, are you wearing through the toes of the shoes on serve or through doing something specific, or just general wear from what incidentally looks to be pretty high level movement? :) Also, any issues with 'slip/sliding away' - especially a la Jack Sock - on the shank plate ridge? Thanks, JMac. P.S. I really like the personalised contact you guys provide - great service!! :)
 

TW Staff

Administrator
Hi Sean, Just wondering, are you wearing through the toes of the shoes on serve or through doing something specific, or just general wear from what incidentally looks to be pretty high level movement? :) Also, any issues with 'slip/sliding away' - especially a la Jack Sock - on the shank plate ridge? Thanks, JMac. P.S. I really like the personalised contact you guys provide - great service!! :)

@jmacdaununder2

Thanks for the compliment! Personally, I tend to wear out the toe on my left shoe from serving and sliding it forward on my backhand, but the right shoe isn't far behind. The rest of the tread pattern doesn't take nearly as much wear, and is usually still pretty fresh by the time I've worn through the toes.

I will say that I slipped once in the first week I was playing in them, and it was due to the shank plate ridge making contact with the ground! There were times when I thought I was stepping on a rock, but it turned out to be that shank plate. At the end of the playtest I could visibly see the wear on that area, but luckily it got shaved down so that within a few days of wearing them I wasn't having that clatter anymore.

Let me know if there's anything else I can answer!
P.S. J-Mac is my favorite all time player

-Sean, TW
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
Seriously i don’t understand all the negative customer reviews on tennis wearhouse. People these days all do is b.... and moan. I have had 2 playing sessions with vapor X and i absolute love it so far. From the first time you put it on the shoe clearly feels like a step forward evolution of 9.5’s. Beware that it needs a 2-3 hours break in period.

The general playability reminds 9.5 in a lot of areas. It’s less connected to the ground because the sole area is a lot more reinforced and bulky. It doesn’t plays soft (Asics shoes) like waking on pillows. It is stiffer than 9.5 but without getting vibrations and putting pressure on your knees. It’s mostly performance oriented and that’s why i like it. Yes it slides more than 9.5 but it seems also to be a lot more durable. Same quickness,acceleration and stop n goes with 9.5 and probably best lateral stability on the shoe market. The lacing system is weird to lock it down..it doesn’t let you squeeze them on your feet and you may feel not secure but on playability you will have no issues in terms of stability. Also the upper part behaves and feels exactly like 9.5. And ofcource I prefer the wider toe area....why everyone is complaining about that; Don’t you want more freedom and space for your toes ;
 
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Jmauer

Semi-Pro
Seriously i don’t understand all the negative customer reviews on tennis wearhouse. People these days all do is b.... and moan. I have had 2 playing sessions with vapor X and i absolute love it so far. From the first time you put it on the shoe clearly feels like a step forward evolution of 9.5’s. Beware that it needs a 2-3 hours break in period.

The general playability reminds 9.5 in a lot of areas. It’s less connected to the ground because the sole area is a lot more reinforced and bulky. It doesn’t plays soft (Asics shoes) like waking on pillows. It is stiffer than 9.5 but without getting vibrations and putting pressure on your knees. It’s mostly performance oriented and that’s why i like it. Yes it slides more than 9.5 but it seems also to be a lot more durable. Same quickness,acceleration and stop n goes with 9.5 and probably best lateral stability on the shoe market. The lacing system is weird to lock it down..it doesn’t let you squeeze them on your feet and you may feel not secure but on playability you will have no issues in terms of stability. Also the upper part behaves and feels exactly like 9.5. And ofcource I prefer the wider toe area....why everyone is complaining about that; Don’t you want more freedom and space for your toes ;

You know what I think it is, for me? I think I was spoiled by the 9. It boggles my mind that Tinker drew the shoe in ten minutes on his iPad. I think having him create a shoe for Tennis (vapor 9) raised the bar so high, that the next iteration was bound to receive some backlash.

Just my .02
 

lockbox

Rookie
So just got my Vapor X and it feels great. Not sure if it's been addressed, but on my old vapors, I've always lock-laced. But it seemed there wasn't enough slack on the X to do so. Are the laces shorter or is it just the fact that it is new for me that's causing the issue?
 

ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
So just got my Vapor X and it feels great. Not sure if it's been addressed, but on my old vapors, I've always lock-laced. But it seemed there wasn't enough slack on the X to do so. Are the laces shorter or is it just the fact that it is new for me that's causing the issue?

Consensus appears that the laces may be shorter. I've had luck with aftermarket laces from lace lab if you need longer. Order laces from there to replace laces on my Asics shoes. Asics makes great shoes but their standard laces are turrible.
 

bezs

G.O.A.T.
That rf air max 95 looks a bit odd with the Vapor X sole on it, just not used to seeing that on a AM95 i guess.

Nike's product description "sports colours inspired by the courts where the champion continues to relentlessly collect titles"

Hmm, i get the blue is for the Aussie Open, red the clay, green Wimby so the yellow for...
 
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Jmauer

Semi-Pro
Brilliant creation, imho, to put the am 95 on a vapor x sole BUT they should have kept all lime green accents like OG that would have been PERFECT all the colors look a bit silly
 

bezs

G.O.A.T.
There will be a neon version as well in the classic Air Max 95 colours.

NikeCourt-VaporRF-Air-Max-95-Neon-AO8759-078-Release-Date.jpg


https://sneakerbardetroit.com/nikecourt-vapor-rf-air-max-95-neon-ao8759-078-release-date/
 

Vanhalen

Professional
I am watching the Taylor fritz match and he’s wearing the goofy pink pajama outfit and he has slipped twice with his vapor X shoes and did a quick look at the soles. No thanks to both.
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
When I read about the above monstrosity being described as "brilliant creation" I start to doubt the sanity and aesthetic values of the people.

:cool:

That is a great point. I love it. Not the silly clown colors but the lime green homage to the original, of course. Isn’t that so crazy about aesthetic values? One person can think it is horrible and the other beautiful. The ol beholder sitch. Too bad they will be gone before most (who want) will get a chance to snag em!
 

Roddick85

Hall of Fame
I gotta say I'm quite disappointed with these shoes. I've been wearing Vapors since what late 2010? Having bought 20+ pairs since then. I was at my local tennis shop yesterday and saw these, figured I'd at least try them out to see how they feel/fit even though I don't like the current color scheme. As much as the previous Vapors were comfortable from the very beginning, these definitely feel stiffer and nowhere near as comfortable. According to my sales rep, there's definitely a bit of a break-in period with these. Might not be as bad as my old CB 2.3/3.3 that I tried briefly in 2011 who were a huge pain to break, bad memories, but for the price Nike is asking for these, I'm not convinced.

It's a bit sad because the Vapors were my go ahead shoes, other alternative is the Air Zoom and it seems that they require break in as well. I'm not sure what direction Nike is going with their tennis gear (the Nike RF stuff looks atrocious this year), but they will most likely lose me as a customer.
 
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