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^and what that has to do with Novak and this thread?
Don't ask, no one hears. I've tried already. The only thing you'll get is a clever girlie answer like "Bump please"...LOL
^and what that has to do with Novak and this thread?
^and what that has to do with Novak and this thread?
^and what that has to do with Novak and this thread?
I have no idea what you mean. He's human and can get tired like anybody else."You cannot be serious" as someone would say. There are very few people who can beat Nadal whether it is on HC, grass, and especially clay (it seems it's nearly impossible at this moment). Does not matter whether he is tired or not. He is "ALWAYS" tired the way he plays and is "NEVER" tired at the same time if you know what I mean. He is like the energizer bunny (with extra batteries on his bench) ...
It doesn't,it turned into another childish Fed-Nadal argument mostly thanks to Nadal fans who are bitter about this loss even though their guy is having an amazing year winning everything in sight.I personally liked the way Novak acted yesterday(all focused and business-like) in a match and I find it refreshing that his parents weren't there for a change.
To me, the most surprising thing today on court was Novak's attitude. He wasn't acting like an arrogant a-hole, even though he was winning. None of that stuff.
Perhaps after getting burned a couple of times in the last few months, he finally learned his lesson? I enjoy his game, but I couldn't stand that attitude of his. Hopefully that will fade into irrelevance, and he will gain new fans.
Anyone with me on this?
Tell me one tennis player that didn´t miss a tennis match and won 8-6 in the 5th set having mono.
Ancic had mono last year and was off the courts about 6 months. Honestly it´s hard to believe that Federer was so affected by whatever he had and there´s no evidence of that. Is he playing better now than in January? Definitely not.
Nadal played 9 matches in the last 11 days after a grueling schedule in the last 3 months, those are the facts.
You should be more quiet calling others names on this subject.
It doesn't,it turned into another childish Fed-Nadal argument mostly thanks to Nadal fans who are bitter about this loss even though their guy is having an amazing year winning everything in sight.I personally liked the way Novak acted yesterday(all focused and business-like) in a match and I find it refreshing that his parents weren't there for a change.
How many years have you heard people use mono as an excuse for Roger? Have people told you how many years they intend on using it as an excuse?It depends for how many years you plan on using it...
Since when did it become a fact? It's supposition, not fact.They are not excuses. They are facts that Nadal was tired. It would be a kneejerk reaction for anyone to put more into this match than that. Especially since Cinci is Nadal's least favorite tournament. Bad scheduling and speed of courts.
Yeah but now where is the high-and-mighty rhetoric about how Federer fans are the only ones who put down tiredness and illness and poor light as excuses? Surely you should be above all this. Basically you are starting to act the same, and in time perhaps even worse, than those Fedfans. Whereas before people whined about how this was purely characteristic of a Fedfan. The reality may be that we are all subject to behaving in this way when our fave player becomes top dog.How is that an excuse? That's common sense. We're not talking about light, or mono that may go on for two years. Winning the French, going straight to Queens, winning that, going to Wimbledon, winning that, going to Toronto, winning that, and then coming to Cincinnati and getting to the semifinals. You gotta be kidding if you think anyone wouldn't be tired with that schedule.
Hey, TheLie, I watched all your posts and you always "downgraded" Federer in almost every of your posts. How can you handle double standards?
Nadal is a very good player, but I don't think he will resist as #1 very much. His game is pushing his body too much. He is prone to injuries and that will keep him from a dominant position as #1.
Good post. Like I said before, this "thelie" chump really has a problem with Federer. Even in a thread abou Nadal, the chump still find a way to bash him. The truth my asss
Since when has being a big fan of a certain player make you gay? That is the farthest thing from my mind when in competitive sports. They are like the opposites. I do root for the better looking women most of the times though. Ana Ivanovic, Maria Kirilenko, Elena Dementieva, and etc. I don't get involved in women's tennis because rooting for someone just because they look good is kind of lame. It's about your favorite style of play. I prefer the baseline grinders style (Nadal, Andreev, and Monfils) over the aggressive baseliners. (Djokovic, Blake, Berdych...)Since when did it become a fact? It's supposition, not fact.
Knowing you you probably have made an inspection on Nadal's feet for blisters and offered lewd services to his physician for an inside diagnosis on his general fitness. I wouldn't put it past you my love.
Even mentioning feet makes me sick. I don't want to think about that (unless it is a chick). I want to think about looping forehands and high level performance. I'm sure you felt the pain and excitement of your favorite player as well at some point.:-| You've left me befuzzled
Your post does nothing to answer mine. I can't remember where i might have said you had the hots for a man. Or any tennis player. :|
I never said the physician was male either.
Go to sleep Nadal_Freak. You keep overworking yourself here.
:-| You've left me befuzzled
Your post does nothing to answer mine. I can't remember where i might have said you had the hots for a man. Or any tennis player. :|
I never said the physician was male either.
Go to sleep Nadal_Freak. You keep overworking yourself here.
Yes I guess I should probably tame down my excitement when Rafa wins or pain when Rafa losses. It is better than losing interest in tennis though which has happened to me in basketball within the last couple years.Thanks for the clarification Nadal_Freak.
Yeah i totally understand now cos i once had an orgasm watching slow-mo clips of Federer hitting forehands...
But perhaps you need to calm down sometimes, no?
You could end up giving yourself a stroke!
Nope but i do browse. Are you on there?Nice that you use Federbear as your avatar... are you on Roger's website?
No, I shouldn't. I clearly reinforced the point that when Nadal fans make a reason for him losing, it's just a fact, and when Federer fans make a reason for him losing, it's labeled an 'excuse'? It's a double standard. It's hard to believe that Fed had mono? Right.. because he was only diagnosed with it. Nadal fanboys are all the same. Way to credit Djokovic on such a great match, too. But I'm sure Nadal would've won if the match was a day earlier? Keep dreaming.
Mono isn't a sufficient excuse? You're an absolute Nadal troll.
Hey, TheLie, I watched all your posts and you always "downgraded" Federer in almost every of your posts. How can you handle double standards?
Nadal is a very good player, but I don't think he will resist as #1 very much. His game is pushing his body too much. He is prone to injuries and that will keep him from a dominant position as #1.
TheTruth, you know I like you.
But let's try this:
Rafa was tired after winning 5 straight tournaments, AND
Nole played great tennis on his favorite surface (and left his family at home).
It doesn't have to be binary. Things can have more than one cause.
Let's leave Rogi out of this, OK?
How many years have you heard people use mono as an excuse for Roger? Have people told you how many years they intend on using it as an excuse?
Please, don't overdo it.
On this very forum they said the mono could stay in your system for two years. Weren't you here? Go back and look. Fed Fans say the effects of mono can stay with you all your life.
Since when did it become a fact? It's supposition, not fact.
Knowing you you probably have made an inspection on Nadal's feet for blisters and offered lewd services to his physician for an inside diagnosis on his general fitness. I wouldn't put it past you my love.
The blisters were seen on TV. Everyone saw them. I won't comment on the rest of your content.
Yeah but now where is the high-and-mighty rhetoric about how Federer fans are the only ones who put down tiredness and illness and poor light as excuses? Surely you should be above all this. Basically you are starting to act the same, and in time perhaps even worse, than those Fedfans. Whereas before people whined about how this was purely characteristic of a Fedfan. The reality may be that we are all subject to behaving in this way when our fave player becomes top dog.
Remember the things Uncle Toni told Rafa about not making whiny excuses, look at the man he made Rafa into. And learn from your hero.
There isn't a thread on here that I've ever seen about Fed and tiredness. You're stretching. 5 tournaments back to back is a no-brainer. Light is an excuse because they both played in the same conditions. The mono I've posted about because I read the interviews pre, during, and post, and Fed's answers don't quite get it. And speaking of high and mighty, you're not doing so bad yourself. Top dog? Is that what you think? No, how about he wasn't going to do this, or that, and now it's being rubbed back in people's faces, who can't handle it I might add. P.S.-no one can act worse than those Fed Fans. It isn't possible.
I don't think Nadal will change his attitude after be
coming number 1 but his fans probably will.
Mono isn't a sufficient excuse? You're an absolute Nadal troll.
Federer announced himself in tip-top condition before the tournament began, and throughout. Weeks after he lost he said he was sluggish during the tournament. But his transcripts say otherwise. Please don't call me a troll because we disagree. I don't think you're a troll because of our different views. I read constantly, before, during and after a tournament so when the mono came up months later it sent a red flag, because I knew he had declared himself fit on more than one occasion. I condensed this due to the length.
Pre-Tournament
Federer feeling tip-top
Sunday, 13 January, 2008
By Luke Buttigieg
World number one Roger Federer has shrugged off his lack of match practice in the lead-up to Australian Open 2008, saying he is feeling in top shape as he begins his campaign for a third-straight title at Melbourne Park.
But the three-time Australian Open champion told reporters on tournament eve, a couple of days before he was to take on Argentine Diego Hartfield in the first round, that he is ready for action.
"I've been playing sets the last couple days, you know, which was very important for me, to be able to play points. I'm happy with my form, to be honest. Very pleased. Physically I'm fine now, too. No more issues. I would consider myself a hundred per cent."
Federer added that while the stomach illness that temporarily hospitalised him last week had taken a bit of a toll, he believes the work he did in December before coming to Australia will hold him in good stead.
"I practiced very well in Dubai before coming here, so I definitely, you know, created a good base for this fortnight," he said. "That's what I feel now when I get back on the practice courts. You know, I feel the way I would like to feel."
Roger Federer 15.01.08 (after d. Diego-Hartfield)
Tuesday, 15 January, 2008
Q. Was it just food poisoning that you had? Do you feel completely better?
ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I'm fine now, like nothing ever happened, which is a good thing.
Q. And it was food poisoning?
ROGER FEDERER: Apparently. That's what they told me, and I believed it. I've moved on now mentally. I'm past being sick. Looking forward to a healthy couple of weeks hopefully.
Roger Federer 19.01.08
Saturday, 19 January, 2008 (After Janko)
Q. Given the recent illness, was there any stage where it particularly set in and you felt you were getting low on the tank?
ROGER FEDERER: I just felt slow from the start really. No, I mean, I'm happy that the sickness didn't bother me today in the match, and that's what I told you guys. I wasn't bluffing or anything. I thought I was ready for those matches, and I proved it tonight, which is nice.
Q. Any effects from the five-set match the other night? Defeat Berdych
ROGER FEDERER: I felt good. Of course, it throws off your rhythm a little bit, playing a five-setter, especially during a tournament. Usually I play five-setters in finals, like in Miami, Rome, Wimbledon. So it's a bit different to back it up.
But honestly, I felt good. Looking forward to see how I feel in the next match again.
The interviews stop after his defeat by Novak
Several months later...International Herald Tribune
By Christopher Clarey Published: March 7, 2008
At age 26, He has also been struggling with his health. Last month, after falling ill for the third time in six weeks, he underwent extensive tests in his native country of Switzerland and his part-time residence of Dubai. According to Federer, the conclusion was that he had contracted mononucleosis.
Federer already had been diagnosed with food poisoning prior to the Australian Open, which severely disrupted his preparation for that tournament, eventually won by Djokovic. But Federer, who complained of feeling sluggish during the Open, said it now appears that the mononucleosis was the more serious issue.
"The doctors said I must have had it for at least six weeks, which went all the way back to December," Federer said in a telephone interview from Dubai, explaining that he had now been medically cleared to compete.
Federer said he was unable to practice for about 10 days in February and received medical clearance to begin training normally five days before the tournament in Dubai began on Monday.
How could he have not known he was feeling sluggish?
Thanks for the interview. Please make a point.
The point is he declared himself well throughout the tournament. Said he was 100%. After the loss, months later he said he was sluggish and that was the reason for the bad results. Not only that, but the interviews stopped after he lost to Djoker. Kaput! Now, how could he not know he was sluggish at the time, when he insisted he was feeling well? My post was in response to you calling me a troll for not believing the mono excuse. This is why I don't believe it. You can't declare yourself fit, then turn around and say that's why you lost. Now do you see where I'm coming from?
The point is he declared himself well throughout the tournament. Said he was 100%. After the loss, months later he said he was sluggish and that was the reason for the bad results. Not only that, but the interviews stopped after he lost to Djoker. Kaput! Now, how could he not know he was sluggish at the time, when he insisted he was feeling well? My post was in response to you calling me a troll for not believing the mono excuse. This is why I don't believe it. You can't declare yourself fit, then turn around and say that's why you lost. Now do you see where I'm coming from?
Nadal fans are ridiculous right now. And they blame us for making excuses. I thought you're Nadal won't get burned out?
No, I don't. The point is that he had mono. End of story.
"You can't declare yourself fit, then turn around and say that's why you lost. Now do you see where I'm coming from?"
Oh? And why not? Since he did, does that mean he is automatically cured of mono? Whole thing is a complete lie?
This is the first I've been aware of an animosity between Rafa fans and Roger fans.
When did this start?
Is it one of those manufactured rivalries to gin up interest?
Luv ya!
Mean it!
Nadal just gave up like a wuss. Wasn't there a thread saying unlike Nadal, Sampras just gave up? What a joke.
And I thought the thread was about Djokovic :???::???:
would you really want to tell your opponent that you're not 100% fit before a match?
You're just giving your opponent more confidence to beat you
Stop making sense!
Actually, what you say makes perfect sense to me.
No, I don't. The point is that he had mono. End of story.
"You can't declare yourself fit, then turn around and say that's why you lost. Now do you see where I'm coming from?"
Oh? And why not? Since he did, does that mean he is automatically cured of mono? Whole thing is a complete lie?
You really shouldn't respond, because no matter what someone says you're going to pretend it isn't true despite evidence to the contrary. The words came from Federer's own mouth. They flip-flopped back and forth over the months after his loss. The reason I posted it is because you accused me of being a troll for not believing the mono story. I showed you why I don't believe it. You can skew my response any way you'd like.
would you really want to tell your opponent that you're not 100% fit before a match?
You're just giving your opponent more confidence to beat you
Respond to this, you Nadal fanboy. Your first sentence describes yourself and every other Nadal fanboy on this forum. Troll.
Why the hell would you tell anyone during the tournament, that you're sluggish, or not 100%? Like tom said, it will give other players more confidence. They will figure Fed can be hurt by a lack of stamina, footwork, speed, etc.
Until you come up with some substantial evidence supporting your argument (whatever it may be, you haven't even made any points), I see no reason to respond to your sad posts. You can't attack me like you do to Federer fanboys, because I am a fan of tennis, and not of a particular player. Keep on masturbating to Nadal pics.
Great comeback.
1. Ignore that you started it by calling me a troll.
2. Ignore that my reasons are valid.
3. Accept that you are no match for logical and reasonable analysis.
4. Accept that everyone won't like your hero.
5. Don't be so bitter, neither Rafa's or Fed's results affect our lives.
Chill!