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That guy probably thinks "Roddick Hewitt Safin" is one person.Lol. All time lol statement.
That guy probably thinks "Roddick Hewitt Safin" is one person.Lol. All time lol statement.
His serve isn't anywhere as powerful as Fed's (even at age 39) and Fed has the greatest FH in the history of tennis. The fastest FH the Greek has ever hit in his lifetime is what an average Fed FH was like before the racket change in 2013. Tsitsipas has totally average power. Powerful plays with velocity on their strokes are guys like Nalby, Safin, Basilashvilli or Lion. Tsistipas isn't even in the discussion in terms of power.Tsi has more power...
It's not even about power. I think Tsitsipas has the power, but he lacks the crucial ability to know when to pull the trigger. His tennis IQ is not elite.His serve isn't anywhere as powerful as Fed's (even at age 39) and Fed has the greatest FH in the history of tennis. The fastest FH the Greek has ever hit in his lifetime is what an average Fed FH was like before the racket change in 2013. Tsitsipas has totally average power. Powerful plays with velocity on their strokes are guys like Nalby, Safin, Basilashvilli or Lion. Tsistipas isn't even in the discussion in terms of power.
His serve isn't anywhere as powerful as Fed's (even at age 39)
Yes, and I have the potential to train for the Olympics and surpass Michael Phelps for most Gold Medals.There I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Tsitsipas for the last 4-5 years and I can tell you the Greek has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Tsitsipas is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened in USO 2020 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Tsitsipas to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Federer himself admitted the guy is tough as nails after struggling against him and losing the two biggest encounters between them.
I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Federer had. Tsitsipas’s generation is way more talented than Federer’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Federer’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Roddick, Hewitt and Baghadatis are really nothing compared to Medveved, Sinner, Zverev and Thiem. Besides, Tsitsipas seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Federer. Anyways, that’s not the point.
The point is I believe The Greek God has what it takes to take Federer’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His backhand and RoS still leave a lot to be desired and not at Fed’s level yet but he’ll get there. Federer kept improving even in his 30s so Stefanos has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.
One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Federer in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more active in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!
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Fed's power is one of the most underrated parts of his game. He can crank up the pace big time on the serve and FH when he's comfortable. I don't have the stats but I'd imagine his rally ball speeds in his prime must've higher than any of the other big 4. The kinetic chain on his strokes allows him to get incredible racquet head speed and inject serious pace.His serve isn't anywhere as powerful as Fed's (even at age 39) and Fed has the greatest FH in the history of tennis. The fastest FH the Greek has ever hit in his lifetime is what an average Fed FH was like before the racket change in 2013. Tsitsipas has totally average power. Powerful plays with velocity on their strokes are guys like Nalby, Safin, Basilashvilli or Lion. Tsistipas isn't even in the discussion in terms of power.
97 tournament titles, 20 majors to go.There I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Tsitsipas for the last 4-5 years and I can tell you the Greek has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Tsitsipas is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened in USO 2020 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Tsitsipas to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Federer himself admitted the guy is tough as nails after struggling against him and losing the two biggest encounters between them.
I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Federer had. Tsitsipas’s generation is way more talented than Federer’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Federer’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Roddick, Hewitt and Baghadatis are really nothing compared to Medveved, Sinner, Zverev and Thiem. Besides, Tsitsipas seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Federer. Anyways, that’s not the point.
The point is I believe The Greek God has what it takes to take Federer’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His backhand and RoS still leave a lot to be desired and not at Fed’s level yet but he’ll get there. Federer kept improving even in his 30s so Stefanos has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.
One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Federer in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more active in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!
#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.
Cheers.
I don't think Tsitsi has more power. Fed was known for his fearhand back then. Stefanos doesn't have such a weapon.Tsi has more power, but lacks Fed's agility. That's where his size works against him. His game will just never be as subtle and skillful. It's relatively easy to put down Federer's contemporaries, but the level of their talent/health/dedication, as low or high as it was, surely didn't warrant just about anyone could attain the aura of invincibility Federer did, toying with them ever since the late 03 / early 04. Federer's precision, variety, movement, timing, it was unreal. It's taken for granted now, but it was jaw dropping in 2004/05/06. Just as I was watching it, I was pretty sure I had never seen anyone play at that level before.
I'm not saying Stefanos is not amazing, but he doesn't make me think we're seeing Federer supercharged or anything.
Tsitsipas is better at philosophy and instagramming.I can't think of a single thing Tsits does better than Fed in his heyday.
Tsi's serve speed average in the matches collected from 17 to 19:
110.4
Fed's:
108.8
The gap between them is only slightly narrower than the gap between Federer and Nadal, and wider than the one between Tsi and Del Potro.
If we trim it down to 1st serve speed only, which people mostly mean when talking about speed, it gets wider:
Tsi:
119.8
Fed:
115.7
He stands on one leg in deserts like an absolute pro. However, we've yet to see Fed's capabilities at such a task - since his balance and footwork was/is so good, it's hard to see Tsits winning even this comparison.I can't think of a single thing Tsits does better than Fed in his heyday.
I can't think of a single thing Tsits does better than Fed in his heyday.
#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.
Someone failed the eye test
Federer's FH was monstrous, his BH had 10 times the variety, he had a stronger serve, surer return game and was a much better net player, and better footwork.
Tsitsipas has the better BH topspin, nothing else.
Being more prolific doesn't necessarily make one better.Tsitsipas is better at philosophy and instagramming.
Did this person honestly just say he has a higher ceiling than Fed.......I need to sit down after thatThere I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Tsitsipas for the last 4-5 years and I can tell you the Greek has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Tsitsipas is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened in USO 2020 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Tsitsipas to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Federer himself admitted the guy is tough as nails after struggling against him and losing the two biggest encounters between them.
I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Federer had. Tsitsipas’s generation is way more talented than Federer’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Federer’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Roddick, Hewitt and Baghadatis are really nothing compared to Medveved, Sinner, Zverev and Thiem. Besides, Tsitsipas seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Federer. Anyways, that’s not the point.
The point is I believe The Greek God has what it takes to take Federer’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His backhand and RoS still leave a lot to be desired and not at Fed’s level yet but he’ll get there. Federer kept improving even in his 30s so Stefanos has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.
One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Federer in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more active in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!
#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.
Cheers.
Exactly! The tour doesn't fear Tsitsipas from the baseline like they would of feared Fed...I'm not even a Fed fan but I can't believe this mug is being compared to FedI don't think Tsitsi has more power. Fed was known for his fearhand back then. Stefanos doesn't have such a weapon.
This is the funny thing - Tsits is going to have DRAMATICALLY easier competition than Federer who faced a murder’s row at every slam from 2011 on.... Despite that Tsits isn’t going to come close to 20 slams. Conversely if you dropped 22 year old Federer into 2021 he’d probably win 30+ slams.If Tsisipas should do anything to approach Federer's career accomplishments, there would be 2 things he should be thankful for: a) there's no clay king stopping him at every RG; and b) there's no HC/grass prince stopping him at almost every AO and Wimbledon!
I beg to disagree. There is a reason why he is nicknamed Socrates. Federer doesn’t hold a candle to Socrates in matters of philosophy and contemplations on life and other deep thoughts.Being more prolific doesn't necessarily make one better.
This is hilarious.I beg to disagree. There is a reason why he is nicknamed Socrates. Federer doesn’t hold a candle to Socrates in matters of philosophy and contemplations on life and other deep thoughts.
Obviously I don't think Tsitsipas has a higher ceiling than Federer, but I do think he has more power off both wings.
Me too, but we're in minority here.
Sorry, the idea that Tsitsipas hits bigger forehands than prime Federer is goddamn ridiculous.
Could be, but then again, there are people that won't have you ever saying anyone has more anything than Rog. You say Djoker has more hair? Hah! They'll come back with the explanation why you're deluded and misled (Roger has a bigger head; even though he has as much hair as Djok or even more, it looks so sparse because of his gigantic, unparalleled superhead that only masterfully pretends to be a lot balder than Djoker's).
The dude is a tennis analyst. Watch your tone.Who???
I can't think of a single thing Tsits does better than Fed in his heyday.