Topspin One handed backhand forward swing

Curious

G.O.A.T.
And all this talk about pronation, drop first then swing etc is a good reminder that this forum could really be dangerous!
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
Completely loosen your arm when serving and take a vid. Let's see if it makes a difference.
I've tried it on the court, my timing is way off with the toss and I'm unable to get the serve anywhere near in. I think for me, itll be like switching to a 2hbh - a completely different stroke with different timing and feel. I'll need a bucket of balls and many hours dedication. Maybe a party hat...
 

zill

Legend
I've tried it on the court, my timing is way off with the toss and I'm unable to get the serve anywhere near in. I think for me, itll be like switching to a 2hbh - a completely different stroke with different timing and feel. I'll need a bucket of balls and many hours dedication. Maybe a party hat...

So when you loosen your arm you can't serve right at all?? So you have been serving with a tight grip/arm all along?

Or are you saying when you try to consciously drop the racquet (eg scratch you back) your serve is way off?
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
So when you loosen your arm you can't serve right at all?? So you have been serving with a tight grip/arm all along?

Or are you saying when you try to consciously drop the racquet (eg scratch you back) your serve is way off?
I think the first one.

But I wont try to change it while competition is on, literally could not get the ball in the box
 

ballmachineguy

Hall of Fame
Interesting explanation of racket drop here. Without even mentioning pronation.


He didn’t mention pronation, but your arm has to be doing something to change the racquet orientation. Racquet head high to racquet head low - you have two choices pronation or supination. Backswing to drop is pronation, forward swing to finish it is supination. So elemental he didn’t think he needed to use terminology.
 

Morch Us

Hall of Fame
Looks like we already overwhelmed @Curious with enough info. He is obsessed with a specific path in his journey to find the ultimate OHBH. Let us take a deep breath and allow him to digest, experiement and find it on his own. At this point any extra info we give him would be just repeatations, or "i told you so" posts. I will check after a few weeks to see where he is at. (hopefully he won't go to slice only).
 

user92626

G.O.A.T.
Some points from this morning.
@user92626 , you'll see some forehands there where I was focusing on getting the left hand up and out of the way. I think it's important.
Another good thing is I seem to split step almost every time now.


It's the same opponent in many of your videos. How are you doing against him, h2h?

I also have one singles opponent and we are tie this year.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Looks like we already overwhelmed @Curious with enough info. He is obsessed with a specific path in his journey to find the ultimate OHBH. Let us take a deep breath and allow him to digest, experiement and find it on his own. At this point any extra info we give him would be just repeatations, or "i told you so" posts. I will check after a few weeks to see where he is at. (hopefully he won't go to slice only).
He quit TT in case you missed it. Poor chap said he was addicted.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Probably a good thing for him. He probably may improve his OHBH faster, if he just don't think too much and follow his personal coach and just hit a few balls. It is not supposed to be this complicated :)
Yep. I can honestly say no coach helped me with mine and one even wanted me to show him what I was doing.
 
Personally I believe you are overthinking it. You're focusing on particular aspects of (certain pro's) techniques rather than the intent behind their swing.

In my experience you can go straight from take back to swing (without drop) only on higher balls where you need minimal lift to clear the net. "Drop" naturally occurs if you step in, bend down and lean in with your hitting shoulder to noticeably swing from below the ball and finishing above to generate additional topspin and lift.

Thinking about the steps/adjustments to achieve the shot you are looking for will lead you to a workable technique. Of course the exact swing path will vary based on what kind of ball you're trying to hit.
 
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