Young Donald is getting older

TennisLogic

Semi-Pro
Donald Young is an incredible talent whom McEnroe once called the future of US tennis. While the kid is oozing talent, it has become very clear that he cannot progress farther unless he works in his physique. Why does he get so damned tired so quickly? Case in Point, his 2014 Australian Open match against Nishikori. You will notice that his legs start getting heavy and movement slows considerably after about the seventh game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5JM0pGtIIc

When will he take a few months off to work on his stamina? The kid can be a top 10 player.
What's your opinion?
 

G&G

New User
Donald Young is an incredible talent whom McEnroe once called the future of US tennis. While the kid is oozing talent, it has become very clear that he cannot progress farther unless he works in his physique. Why does he get so damned tired so quickly? Case in Point, his 2014 Australian Open match against Nishikori. You will notice that his legs start getting heavy and movement slows considerably after about the seventh game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5JM0pGtIIc

When will he take a few months off to work on his stamina? The kid can be a top 10 player.
What's your opinion?

It is nothing to do with the stamina. The point is that his train has gone. It doesn't mean that he can't be a top100 player, which is fine for other countries except for the Americans.

I did have a chance to watch that match against Nishikori and the difference in quality was significant. First of all Young lacks speed, his footwork is poor and when the game is fast, like it was vs. Nishikori, his technic lets him down. You can raise the stamina, but you can't increase speed and agility more than 20-25%. It is applicable more or less for juniors. Taking into account that he will be 25 years old in 2015, it is naïve to expect significant changes in this department. During the match it was obvious that Young is nervous, his body language spoke for himself, if I remember correctly he even didn't talk to himself as he usually did in the past. And reason for nervousness was not only because of the good opponent in general but particular that opponent is from his generation that he used to outplay in juniors. Nishikori on the other hand looked calm as it would be Djokovic or Ferrer on the other side of the court.

In my opinion, he stopped improving because of bad decisions made by his family. As it was mentioned in this forum many times before, he had to work with independent coach that could convince him to work really hard. I don’t believe that Mother/father can force her/his son to work that hard as the other person who has ambitions to succeed professionally and financially. This hard work had to be done 10 years ago, but unfortunately he was too talented that he didn’t need much to succeed in juniors. The same is happening with Tomic, but he still is relatively young and has better physical abilities than Young. Upcoming 2 years will be crucial for Tomic as well. We will see.
 

TennisLogic

Semi-Pro
It is nothing to do with the stamina. The point is that his train has gone. It doesn't mean that he can't be a top100 player, which is fine for other countries except for the Americans.

I did have a chance to watch that match against Nishikori and the difference in quality was significant. First of all Young lacks speed, his footwork is poor and when the game is fast, like it was vs. Nishikori, his technic lets him down. You can raise the stamina, but you can't increase speed and agility more than 20-25%. It is applicable more or less for juniors. Taking into account that he will be 25 years old in 2015, it is naïve to expect significant changes in this department. During the match it was obvious that Young is nervous, his body language spoke for himself, if I remember correctly he even didn't talk to himself as he usually did in the past. And reason for nervousness was not only because of the good opponent in general but particular that opponent is from his generation that he used to outplay in juniors. Nishikori on the other hand looked calm as it would be Djokovic or Ferrer on the other side of the court.

In my opinion, he stopped improving because of bad decisions made by his family. As it was mentioned in this forum many times before, he had to work with independent coach that could convince him to work really hard. I don’t believe that Mother/father can force her/his son to work that hard as the other person who has ambitions to succeed professionally and financially. This hard work had to be done 10 years ago, but unfortunately he was too talented that he didn’t need much to succeed in juniors. The same is happening with Tomic, but he still is relatively young and has better physical abilities than Young. Upcoming 2 years will be crucial for Tomic as well. We will see.

Interesting analysis. Thanks for sharing.
The US some of the best tennis centers in the world, yet we haven't produced an ATP player we can get excited about since The 80's generation (Agassi, Sampras, Courier and company). Sad.
Why do you think that is?
 

Devil_dog

Hall of Fame
Who's his coach right now? Maybe he needs to do what Novak did with his diet and fitness? He's 25. He still has a chance to really make a change.
 

gut wax

Hall of Fame
Who's his coach right now? Maybe he needs to do what Novak did with his diet and fitness? He's 25. He still has a chance to really make a change.
Mommy Dearest.

Change Coach & Trainer; change string tension so follow through is as necessary as legs for power & introduce self, not return balls to net.

What he's been doing is an insult to wheelchair players who must only use upper torso, but try harder to get there and back.

In short, I agree.
 
It is nothing to do with the stamina. The point is that his train has gone. It doesn't mean that he can't be a top100 player, which is fine for other countries except for the Americans.

I did have a chance to watch that match against Nishikori and the difference in quality was significant. First of all Young lacks speed, his footwork is poor and when the game is fast, like it was vs. Nishikori, his technic lets him down. You can raise the stamina, but you can't increase speed and agility more than 20-25%. It is applicable more or less for juniors. Taking into account that he will be 25 years old in 2015, it is naïve to expect significant changes in this department. During the match it was obvious that Young is nervous, his body language spoke for himself, if I remember correctly he even didn't talk to himself as he usually did in the past. And reason for nervousness was not only because of the good opponent in general but particular that opponent is from his generation that he used to outplay in juniors. Nishikori on the other hand looked calm as it would be Djokovic or Ferrer on the other side of the court.

In my opinion, he stopped improving because of bad decisions made by his family. As it was mentioned in this forum many times before, he had to work with independent coach that could convince him to work really hard. I don’t believe that Mother/father can force her/his son to work that hard as the other person who has ambitions to succeed professionally and financially. This hard work had to be done 10 years ago, but unfortunately he was too talented that he didn’t need much to succeed in juniors. The same is happening with Tomic, but he still is relatively young and has better physical abilities than Young. Upcoming 2 years will be crucial for Tomic as well. We will see.

things might change. i think he still has a shot.
ferrer only became world class after he turned 24. / 25.
 
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no. he gets younger every day... by now he must be 5 years old
 
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He's never going to be a top 10 player. Maybe top 20 at his best.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I know how he feels. Young Mainad has been getting older for some time now too! :(
:wink:
 
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pc1

G.O.A.T.
A number of years ago I was at a restaurant for a party. One of the guys at my table proclaimed himself the resident genius in tennis and said Donald Young would be a great player, he may have even said all time great player. I think he a little off in his statement.

The funniest thing he said was that one of his relatives played Bobby Riggs' grandson as if that was supposed to be the equivalent of playing Federer. I just sat and had my food while holding back the temptation to laugh.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
Donald Young is an incredible talent whom McEnroe once called the future of US tennis. While the kid is oozing talent, it has become very clear that he cannot progress farther unless he works in his physique. Why does he get so damned tired so quickly? Case in Point, his 2014 Australian Open match against Nishikori. You will notice that his legs start getting heavy and movement slows considerably after about the seventh game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5JM0pGtIIc

When will he take a few months off to work on his stamina? The kid can be a top 10 player.
What's your opinion?

Well he's not wrong.

DY was the future of US tennis, and we're living that future now. It's just that the future want nearly as bright as we thought back then.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Donald Young is an incredible talent whom McEnroe once called the future of US tennis.
This is what happened. And JMac should call DY and ask for 10% of his Nike endorsement loot. The way JMac fawned over DY had to have some influence on their decision to give so much to someone before he won squat.

A number of years ago I was at a restaurant for a party. One of the guys at my table proclaimed himself the resident genius in tennis and said Donald Young would be a great player, he may have even said all time great player.
See above. Probably parroting JMac. Or being PC.

...yet we haven't produced an ATP player we can get excited about since The 80's generation...
'We', Americans, don't create pros. Individual families do. Starting with genetics, making the game available to the kid once he shows some promise and aptitude. Then it either happens or doesn't. By the laws of Statistics, this drought is no big deal. It will happen again. Despite the fact that tennis isn't as big as it was in the 70s/80s, there are still plenty of people playing. Just a matter of time. Enjoy the great ATP action; don't worry about the flag.
 

Rjtennis

Hall of Fame
Donald looks and acts like a nervous sissy on the court. Most of his on court antics are downright childish. I suppose having your mom coach you your entire life doesn't helps things. I agree that the train is gone. If he can't stand up to his mom and hire a real coach, how can stand tough on the court and beat all the great players out there.
 
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