2019 Indian Wells F - [4] Federer vs [7] Thiem
- Thread starter Im(moral) Winner
- Start date
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Thiem also dened fedr’s bid to become the Tour’s first multiple champion...that’s parity when you have 19 different champions.
tennis4jags
Semi-Pro
Congrats Thiem!! ohh my boy you have done it!!
I hate this pic on atpworldtour.com homepage!
I hate this pic on atpworldtour.com homepage!
wangs78
Legend
I don’t think he played a tactically terrible match. Had he come to net more, Thiem just would have passed him more. Thiem, similar to young Nadal and Djokovic, has extraordinary speed that is able to defend against 37-yo Fed’s aggressive shots. There were too many times today when Fed came in where Thiem was able to get to the approach shot, set his feet and tee off a shot that either passed Fed or was too hot to handle. As you said, the (slightly) better man won today.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
There's absolutely nothing about this pic to hate, nothing whatsoever.Congrats Thiem!! ohh my boy you have done it!!
I hate this pic on atpworldtour.com homepage!
tennis4jags
Semi-Pro
I am sure you are getting what am trying to highlight in this picThere's absolutely nothing about this pic to hate, nothing whatsoever.
mightyrick
Legend
LMAO @ Federer. I didn't see the match, but I knew what caused the loss the moment I saw Federer was defeated. I came home, looked at the stats, and Federer was 2/11 on Break Points. LOL.
This is classic post-2010 Federer.
This is classic post-2010 Federer.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
I am and I think it's wonderful.I am sure you are getting what am trying to highlight in this pic
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Kudos, Fish.
brinkeguthrie
Hall of Fame
Fed tooooo many backhand unforced errors. I don't know the # but had to be a lot.
mightyjeditribble
Hall of Fame
Alright, well done to Thiem.
And also well done to Roger. I'm already over this loss, did more than I expected in this tournament. Would have been nice to bag 101, but always going to be a tough ask at M1000 level.
On to Miami.
And also well done to Roger. I'm already over this loss, did more than I expected in this tournament. Would have been nice to bag 101, but always going to be a tough ask at M1000 level.
On to Miami.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
As a Fed fan, I'm very disappointed, but at the same time...thinking long-term about his legacy: his record will not be safe if these younger guys don't start breaking through, right now.
So Thiem "breaking his duck" here might very well be the thing that triggers him to go on and deny Nadal and Djoker more Slams after Fed is gone. And if he can do it, then the others might start to believe in themselves to do it as well.
So Thiem "breaking his duck" here might very well be the thing that triggers him to go on and deny Nadal and Djoker more Slams after Fed is gone. And if he can do it, then the others might start to believe in themselves to do it as well.
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
If I remember correctly double then Thiem and especially he had a problem executing them on the run.
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
That's what I thought until I saw that Federer wasted BPs especially in the first set, that he won (he was 2/8).
Ray Mercer
Hall of Fame
Federer is just too inconsistent from the ground these days. It’s almost like every time he has to hit a groundstroke you’re surprised it goes over the net. Thiem on the other hand was crushing forehands at will.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
oldmanfan
Legend
Nah. You're being harsh on Fed. Fed played pretty well this IW19. Sure, it wasn't Fed's cleanest match a la SF/F of Dubai, but Thiem was peaking, bashing, and most of his heavier-than-normal FHs went in for most of late set2, and all of set3. DT's FH speeds went from 74mph in set1, to about 78mph in set2, to about 84mph in set3. That's THORhand level. And... he barely beat Fed.
iirc, Thiem was crushing it at Madrid18 SF beating Nadal, then couldn't reproduce it for the finals against Z and got straight setted.
Would be nice if Thiem really can produce similar level as this more often moving forward.
Don't take my word for it, here's what Fed said:
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Rosewall won the WCT trophy (an important title at that time) with an age similar to the one Federer has now.
The Australian still has the longevity of the open era.
Ray Mercer
Hall of Fame
Ray Mercer
Hall of Fame
It’s just tough to see Fed get out muscled on the forehand side these days. I felt like Tsitsipas definitely outplayed and outhit him from the baseline at the Australian as well. In the past guys like a Djokovic would wear him down with defence but now he’s getting outhit from the baseline. It’s amazing he’s still making finals at 38.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
and in 50 years when you and I will be older than Rosewall is now, generations of the future will laugh at Federer, Nadal and Djokovic as we do for those tennis players of that time.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Skinny Pete Agassi says it is better than ever.
pnw_hardcourt
Rookie
This is by choice, he takes the ball so early on such difficult shots. It works surprisingly well a lot of the time but not always.
pnw_hardcourt
Rookie
Definitely, Thiem targeted his BH on the serve and Roger tried driving all of them (like Shapo) and missed 90%. Then in the final games of the third he reverted to the slide and almost broke! Like... Dude.
Ray Mercer
Hall of Fame
Yeah I agree he does take everything on the rise and standing back 2 meters behind the baseline at 38 years old would be a stupid strategy. He definitely looks better on quicker courts like Dubai. I hate how all these courts are slow and high bouncing nowadays.
oldmanfan
Legend
Fed gets overpowered more now than in the past, but it happened then too. But this is a symptom of age, no?
This was PEAK Thiem, yet he won by a very slim margin today on a court that completely favors his game, and they played late in the day, a condition even worse for Fed. This loss stings a bit bc he had real chances to win it, but Fed could still play better, and yes, at ~38! That's a good thing! I'm happy with Fed's current form going forward. This form makes him a contender everywhere imo, even on clay, and especially at Wimby.
To Miami we go!
Fed's post-finals press:
Last edited:
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
roysid
Hall of Fame
Yep. It's inevitableOn a cautionary note for Roger, this is the 2nd year in a row he has finished runner-up in a 3 set final at Indian Wells. Is he losing his clutchness in these type of finals?
D
Deleted member 77403
Guest
Didn't see the match, will watch it today.
Massive congratulations to Thiem for finally winning a long overdue Masters title. Never thought it would come on hard, but glad he got over the hurdle. Now, I hope this isn't a one off, and he can build on this, gain momentum and take it into the clay season.
Commiserations to Federer, so close yet again, but after winning his 100th title coming in, its not too bad and he defended his points. Still think he has a couple of titles in him this year.
Massive congratulations to Thiem for finally winning a long overdue Masters title. Never thought it would come on hard, but glad he got over the hurdle. Now, I hope this isn't a one off, and he can build on this, gain momentum and take it into the clay season.
Commiserations to Federer, so close yet again, but after winning his 100th title coming in, its not too bad and he defended his points. Still think he has a couple of titles in him this year.
Wilhelm
Hall of Fame
Fed gets overpowered more now than in the past, but it happened then too. But this is a symptom of age, no?
This was PEAK Thiem, yet he won by a very slim margin today on a court that completely favors his game, and they played late in the day, a condition even worse for Fed. This loss stings a bit bc he had real chances to win it, but Fed could still play better, and yes, at ~38! That's a good thing! I'm happy with Fed's current form going forward. This form makes him a contender everywhere imo, even on clay, and especially at Wimby.
To Miami we go!
Fed's post-finals press:
I agree with this assessment. Fed is riding the gravy train, in tennis and in general
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
oldmanfan
Legend
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Congratulations to Thiem and his fans that stood by him for years
Beating Federer in a final is extra super duper sweet
The sun is shining and life is good!
Beating Federer in a final is extra super duper sweet
The sun is shining and life is good!
Spencer Gore
Legend
To still be playing at 37 is an achievement, never mind reaching finals and going toe to toe with much younger players. Well done, Rodger.
guitarra
Professional
Fantastic victory for my fav player! I never really expected this after the horror start to 2019. But here we are. I'm so happy. It doesn't get better than this.
More to come, folks. Get ready. This victory came in a perfect moment. Clay season is just round the corner. Roland Garros is out there for grabs.
Come on!
More to come, folks. Get ready. This victory came in a perfect moment. Clay season is just round the corner. Roland Garros is out there for grabs.
Come on!
Bukmeikara
Legend
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
Absolutely this. A lot of people blaming tactics etc. Plain and simple, Fed just misses makeable shots too often these days. I think some of that has to do with tiring in the rallies, other times it just seems a consequence of the way he plays.
He did actually have his chances to win, he just missed them.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
I hope these titles aren't just basel and halle
Similar threads
- Poll
- Poll
