2020 ATP Finals SF: Rafael Nadal vs. Daniil Medvedev
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UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
It will be great.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Ok, you were right after all. My apologies
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Makes me feel a little better after that afternoon farce. Cheers to Daniil, as well as Ronnie O'Sullivan and Bruno Fernandes for saving the day somewhat.
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
No excuses this year. Short season, just dominated RG, no Federer or Novak, and he still couldn't get it done.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
The "evolution" of tennis, so to speak
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
He has a WTF block imo. He's too good not to have won this title even if it's his worse conditions. I really feel 2017 should have been his year and too bad injury flared up. I think if he had to do it again, he should have skipped Shanghai and just played the WTF. Today, he was gassed and didn't have enough left in the tank at the end.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Medvedev is a good player though. Nadal will never have the luck of facing Murray who collapses after 40 minutes. (like one very lucky player got in RG final)
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Misspelled. @vive le beau jeu ! says, quite loudly, “Oui, oui, oui!”
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Come to think of it, what has been the best slam final since 2003 not involving a Big 3 member? Safin-Hewitt? I guess that one was the most decent.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Ok, you were right after all. My apologies
I told you dude. Medvedev ain't no joke when it comes to physically playing against. I hate to see his name when he's Djokovic's next opponent. He is so exhausting to play against. I did think he was going to lose today and easily after he lost the plot in the 2nd set but he proved me wrong.
StrongRule
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He wasn't physically tired when he was serving for the match. Stop this BS.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Yep. 30 years and 3 months.
And whoever loses will be a MUG for all eternity.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
He could have even been hurt, that's how bad his movement was there. Hard to believe it was just fatigue in a best of three tourney.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
He played a bad service game there and Medvedev played a great return game. He still had the tiebreak though and to me, that's when it looked like he started to feel it physically.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Today's evening match was worse quality wise i.e. Novak/Thiem played better than RAFA/Med and RAFA played better in his match against Thiem than he did today. Djokovic played better today than he did against Daniil but Daniil can get credit for making him frustrated and give up, though RR shenanigans and etc. But imo blabla
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
He looked spent to me. It was all over his face and then started dumping shots in the net, was slower getting to the ball, etc.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Well, if he gets tired so fast now then maybe it is really time to retire. In BO5 he will have even less chances.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
That BH is his Achilles heel against Nadal.
James P
G.O.A.T.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Felt kinda sorry for Rafa seeing him trudge off like that after the match was over. He looked shattered, like he felt he had just squandered his last realistic chance of winning this title and he may well be right.
Very strange that he choked when serving it out. Not like him and he paid the price.
Very strange that he choked when serving it out. Not like him and he paid the price.
TheAssassin
Legend
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
FO 2004 if you want to be cruel
Pmasterfunk
Hall of Fame
New TTW accounts should have StrongRule on ignore by default.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Memories of 2011-2012 when this scenario was discussed for Fed.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Yeah, I recall him collapsing when he played Nadal in the 2010 semi-final. Collapsed all the way to 6-8 in the deciding set tie-breaker.
Try reading up on some facts before spouting your usual drivel.
irishnadalfan1983
Hall of Fame
True but when he looks at in the cold light of day I think he will think ‘My first serve percentage was shocking for the first 2 sets and hence I was under pressure to hold serve the whole match’.....Don't think he will have any really complaints...
MusterCoriaKuerten
Rookie
Looking at Tsitsipas(poor mans Federer) and Nadal matches,its quite clear why Federer had a matchup issue with the dirtballer
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Federer had the much better game though which could compensate for that match-up issue.
And he has always had a better BH than Tsitsipas anyway.
I knew StrongRule was pessimistic it I didn’t know he was also blind!
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
HC makes up about 70% of the tour.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Credit to Medvedev. Well deserved and great battle!
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
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Deleted member 770948
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The first 2 sets of their US Open Final 7-5 6-3, almost identical to the first 2 sets of today's match 6-3 and Nadal almost won the 2nd Set.
That 2nd Set was arguably the most thrilling set of the year.
That 2nd Set was arguably the most thrilling set of the year.
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UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
StrongRole applies reverse-jinxing on Bull, and then throws some jinxing on Djokovic whenever he can, but his main strategy remains reverse-jinxing Bull.
On the other hand, you have TennisFan3, he's the same but works a little bit different. TennisFan3's main strategy is trying to jinx Djokovic in every single match, set and game, and then apply some reverse-jinxing on Bull whenever possible.
In their head, the is how they can help Bull making glory. They tried so hard here but still they failed and the 0 is here to stay lmao
StrongRule
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Slowtwitcher
Legend
Nadal15thslam
Hall of Fame
You should've left when Nadal won RG
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
ChokedalAlso Nadal served for the match to win 6-3 6-4 against Medvedev in London 2020...
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Oh, here you are. Nadal choked again, but of course you think he is in great form.
mightyrick
Legend
Nadal has never won a singles title at a venue that uses Greenset Grand Prix as the surface. What other two tournaments use Greenset? Paris Masters and Rotterdam. Both of which Nadal has no titles at.
Greenset is Nadal kryptonite. Medium/medium-slow speed, low bouncing, spin-deadening, and high traction. Zero explosion off the court. The court plays like you are using pressureless tennis balls. This is also why we see these tournaments frequently produce champions who otherwise don't win majors/slams.
The surface itself is such an equalizer that the ability of Top-10 players to use pace and spin to their advantage is all but completely removed.
Greenset is Nadal kryptonite. Medium/medium-slow speed, low bouncing, spin-deadening, and high traction. Zero explosion off the court. The court plays like you are using pressureless tennis balls. This is also why we see these tournaments frequently produce champions who otherwise don't win majors/slams.
The surface itself is such an equalizer that the ability of Top-10 players to use pace and spin to their advantage is all but completely removed.
alexio
G.O.A.T.
for this year definitely
MusterCoriaKuerten
Rookie
Sure
UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
That's how they feel I guess. Bull couldn't win the tournament he need the most so probably they should try harder next year lol.
Slowtwitcher
Legend
MusterCoriaKuerten
Rookie
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