the green god
Professional
Nothing like kicking a dog when he's down.
[1] Federer vs [Q] Delbonis Hamburg SF
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the green god
Professional
Touche.............
Terry Tibbs
Hall of Fame
How has federer lost to this joker who Ive never even heard of? If he struggles against him, how is he gonna fare against the likes of del potro, berdych etc? He really does seem to be on the decline. Ive noticed with some of his matches lately how he is mis-timing the ball and shanking a lot of shots.
mental midget
Hall of Fame
less lack of motivation than back issues imo. his serve motion looks at about half-coil, arming the ball and double-faulting, and his movement to the forehand side is not good. i think the racket switch will help more than hurt but when you can't move right or serve right, the racket is the least of your issues.
someone posted a pic somewhere, he had tape on his back. has he ever talked about what the issue is?
btw delbonis played really well, but i think an intact federer could have found a way to win.
After watching Fed's last two matches I think he is shanking more with the 98 than he ever did with the 90. Yes, he has more power, but the balance of this racket is causing major problems. If he had played any of his last 3 matches with the 90 he would have beat all three in straight sets.
YourMajesty
New User
Fed is testing out his new racquet, and Hamburg is not a big tournament. I'm sure he is less worried than most here.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
This just goes to show how quickly one can lose his aura of invulnerability. Once the other pros smell blood, you're there for the taking, no matter how formidable your past reputation may have been.
I also think that works both ways - not only do they gain confidence and play with more belief, but Federer is struggling with his own confidence and playing with less belief.
Still - I think Fed has proven, even this year, that he's still capable of bringing a high level of tennis at any given time. As long as that is the case, another major win is a possibility.
I also think it is a mistake to pass judgment on him with the new racquet after only a handful of matches. Let's see, first, if he's healthy and can stay that way, and second, how he plays with the racquet as the second half of the season progresses. This is a pretty significant move for a guy who hasn't typically changed that much. It will take a little time to settle in, if he does, with the new stick.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Fed looks about 50
jaggy
Talk Tennis Guru
Fed looks about 50
You are way too kind there
Clarky21
Banned
Fed looks about 50
Terrible picture. All that sun exposure ages tennis players rapidly that's for sure.
And he looks about 70 in that picture. 50 is far too generous.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
And if there was a 5th, it would be Delpo...
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Attila_the_gorilla
Guest
He's not the prettiest player out there, got a nose enough for a Davis Cup team.
GatorNation
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PeteD
Legend
Delbonis played really great, shotwise and mentally. Fed did OK considering he was pretty cripped up -- couldn't serve or move. What else needs to be said at this point? We'll see if Delbonis can keep up that high level, especially off clay, and we'll see if Rog skips Gstaad so maybe he can heal up in time for hard court.
Al Czervik
Hall of Fame
Fed looks about 50
It worse yesterday because he was wearing a vest. I was thinking he looked like an old man struggling to control his Hyper Hammer 110. He should give it one more year with the K90, then call it quits.
Fed looks about 50
That's overly harsh! You must know many folks that take Botox and have plastic surgery. Careers in the sun age skin faster, particularly for fairer skinned folks.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
So much for the "godstick", eh?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
No, we all know why he is missing that inside out forehand wide. it is the bigger head. he will adjust and those will start to fall in
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
uhmm...sure. I was just teasing President because a few days ago he was insisting that a larger racquet will provide magical improvements to Federer's game.
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I know me switching to 115 sq inch head won't magically improve my game.
HunterST
Hall of Fame
Sensationalism. You're really going to say that Ferrer is a bigger gun than Federer?
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monfed
Guest
Would you watch Murray/Nadal then?
M
monfed
Guest
He doesn't need to play in long pants when a tape can achieve the same result. :lol:
It looked like the end.
Its not like Fed didn't have bad matches in past years, but more often than not he knew how to turn it around and switch gears. He doesn't have that anymore. He's playing like the underdog against almost anyone at this point, and he misses so many easy shots its astonishing, its like he forgot how to hit or something, its really painful to watch the best shotmaker the game has ever seen become the best shankmaker.
The last TB was especially awful, 3 shanks in a row to seal the deal.
I think she's saying Ferrer had a better 2013 than Federer. A slam final, went deeper at Wimbledon, was more consistent, and played at a higher level than Fed throughout the year.
...and I try to do his forehand all the time. With good results because my backhand is not good.
fednad
Hall of Fame
Darling, by mistake you replied from another new account.. LOL
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
If the increase in size of the racquet makes Federer a better player; it did not show up with . Federico Del Bonis 6-7 (7-9), 6-7 (4-7) final!
I sure Wilson is more heartbroken the Federer! LOL!
I sure Wilson is more heartbroken the Federer! LOL!
6-1 6-3 6-0
Banned
How cute. An overzealous Federer fan gives her response-
MACBETH said:It was close; it went on one point really. But this was a good run and a step forward I mean you reached the semis with a lot going on and with one match after the other. So it's been definitely good! You got the chance to try new things and managed great on such an abrupt change of surface. That can't be easy. So well done love, let's move on.
It was endlessly delightful to see you. Surely you enjoyed the place, I like the Center Court the roof is pretty cool. Now can't wait for Gstaad! Well actually can't wait to see you playing again.
Roger! Does your back hurt? I'm really worried about it!（´-`）Have you been wearing the KT Tape the whole time the last tournaments under those undershirts?
Why haven't you said anything about it?! I really care about you, don't do that, please share. Well I wish, but I understand. Do whatever you think is best. Just hope you are ok. Find yourself the best back doctor in the world, the best treatment. You can actually have that, do it. Use the CVAC thing, whatever it takes, please take care of yourself.
But the tape is also preventive, so are you just preventing? Wish I knew and mostly wish I could be of some help to you. I wear it sometimes I hurt the tendons of my fingers playing tennis I'm fine but I also dance so it sometimes creeps in. Lucky haven't totally broken something else, sorry I digress. Anyway it's good you wear it. It'll sure help with whatever is going on. The situation is transient don't let it take away your confidence. You'll recover. xo ❤
Don't be too hard on yourself Roger, trust there's always an answer, look beyond and rely on your capacity. Break the inside boundaries. Free yourself from whatever is bothering you.
Cheer up, I want to see you happy my beautiful treasure. Have massive self-esteem. Put a smile upon that incredible face. Get well soon.
purple-n-gold
Hall of Fame
Have you seen this Delbono guy play? He's playing top ten tennis right now.
Clarky21
Banned
Oh come on. :lol: If Fed had showed up yesterday Delboner would have lost. Top 10 tennis my ***.
Clarky21
Banned
^ So who exactly showed up yesterday. I did not know Fred had stunt doubles
He seemed to have one yesterday. And this one also seemed to be about 70 years old too.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I'm talking currently, not in general. Ferrer has outperformed Fed this season, sure, especially and most shockingly in slams.
President
Legend
Haha, I do think the larger racquet caused some important CHANGES in his game, they haven't necessarily manifested in an improved total package yet because it was Roger's first tournament with the new stick. I also think his back problems are still affecting his play. :|
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
Agree. I watched a bit of the match against Delbonis on my DVR. Federer looked a bit hindered. Not free with his movement. He was also playing with tape on his back, so it was definitely an issue last week.
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Deleted member 3771
Guest
He was hindered by the bigger racket, he looked lost and void of any confidence with that big racket, he'll switch back to his old trusty racket soon.
Because he enjoys tennis and competition?
Is that not enough reason to continue playing tennis? Does it have to be about records and money?
watungga
Professional
Have you watch the match? Just saw it on utube. DelBoner played like Djokovic!! As a result, Federer has had to cover all bases as there were tremendous baseline attack coming from both sides.
No wonder DelBoner defeated Robredo in that same court.
If Djoker and Nadal get to watch that matchplay. They'll feel the need to prep up to maximum level as well.
The Meat
Hall of Fame
Because he wants more money and to become more legendary?
Tennis is Federer's religion, and in his version, he is the greatest, so he will keep playing as long as he believes it.
Delbonis just Nadal'd Federer. It wasn't so surprising to see a close match (7-6, 7-6) go the way of the guy with more reliable high-ball striking (Delbonis) on the surface. Federer will do better on hard court.
Delbonis just Nadal'd Federer. It wasn't so surprising to see a close match (7-6, 7-6) go the way of the guy with more reliable high-ball striking (Delbonis) on the surface. Federer will do better on hard court.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
Could tell by the end of set 1 that Fed would probably lose this match. Saw a lot of premature opinions on what has 'improved' with the new racket whereas the reality was obvious from the beginning in that he needs time to truly understand his new wand.
The curious thing about his change was that he didn't up the head size of the same racket, he upped the head size and changed racket families.
The curious thing about his change was that he didn't up the head size of the same racket, he upped the head size and changed racket families.
tipsa...don'tlikehim!
Talk Tennis Guru
Rumours say that Federer still has this 2008 mononucleose and that's why he lost to Delbonis in straight sets... what do you think? possible ?
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014
Guest
His back was injured actually lol
Also Fed having mono meant he nearly lost to 2008 TIPSA having been on a 10 slam streak.
PSNELKE
Legend
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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