Toni: When Nadal is fit, he's battling physical struggles from prior injuries

guanzishou

G.O.A.T.
Toni Nadal reveals all on Spaniard's long-running injury problems

RAFAEL NADAL is attempting to recover from another injury - but his uncle Toni claims the Spaniard is constantly struggling physically.
By AARON STOKES

13:54, Fri, Sep 14, 2018 | UPDATED: 14:42, Fri, Sep 14, 2018

US Open: Nadal says he ‘hates retiring’ but pain was too much


The world No 1 was forced to retire in the semi-final of the US Open when facing Juan Martin del Potro last weekend.

Nadal is resting at present but will be hoping to return in time for the upcoming China Open which takes place this Autumn.

However, speaking over the summer, the 31-year-old's uncle revealed even when the tennis star is fully fit, he is battling physical struggles from prior injuries.

"Rafael has been living with pain and painkillers since 2005," Toni said.

The specialist we went to told us that Rafael's career was pretty much finished

Toni Nadal

"For this reason, he's considered his well-being above wins and many times he's told me that he would have liked to win less in exchange for having less pain."

Nadal suffered a foot problem back in 2005 which could have led to the end of his tennis career.

"The specialist we went to told us that Rafael's career was pretty much finished," Toni added.

"Well, in 2005 Rafael had to constantly live in pain.

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Rafael Nadal has been struggling since 2005 (Image: Getty)
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Rafael Nadal retired against Juan Martin del Potro (Image: Getty)

"From that time on, we couldn't finish training sessions a lot of times.

"A lot of times - almost always - he would have to take a painkiller because the pain would get worse and worse as the games went on.

"Because of some insoles that he started using, which solved his foot problem, he started having problems in his knee, back and other parts of his body."

The China Open gets underway on October 1 and former world No 2 Alex Corretja believes Nadal will be fit for the tournament.

“I would not say this is like a major injury, it's just something that he felt there,” he said.

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Rafael Nadal will be hoping to return before the China Open (Image: Getty)

“I think he had a great preparation before the US Open because he won in Toronto and then he stopped, he got ready, he did some fitness, and then unfortunately he felt something during his second or third match as he said.

“Then he recovered from that but then he felt in the game.

“Definitely, it's a big disappointment for everyone, not only for us of course as Spanish people but it's just for all regular tennis fans.

“It looked that Rafa went to the court perfectly, he felt kind of something on the knee and we saw already that his face was not there.

“From the very beginning of the first set, you could see that he was not feeling comfortable.

“And unfortunately he had to retire. Because he cannot play 100 per cent and all the credit to Del Potro who pushed him so much side by side and hit winners all over the place.”
 

reaper

Legend
Toni Nadal reveals all on Spaniard's long-running injury problems

RAFAEL NADAL is attempting to recover from another injury - but his uncle Toni claims the Spaniard is constantly struggling physically.
By AARON STOKES

13:54, Fri, Sep 14, 2018 | UPDATED: 14:42, Fri, Sep 14, 2018

US Open: Nadal says he ‘hates retiring’ but pain was too much


The world No 1 was forced to retire in the semi-final of the US Open when facing Juan Martin del Potro last weekend.

Nadal is resting at present but will be hoping to return in time for the upcoming China Open which takes place this Autumn.

However, speaking over the summer, the 31-year-old's uncle revealed even when the tennis star is fully fit, he is battling physical struggles from prior injuries.

"Rafael has been living with pain and painkillers since 2005," Toni said.

The specialist we went to told us that Rafael's career was pretty much finished

Toni Nadal

"For this reason, he's considered his well-being above wins and many times he's told me that he would have liked to win less in exchange for having less pain."

Nadal suffered a foot problem back in 2005 which could have led to the end of his tennis career.

"The specialist we went to told us that Rafael's career was pretty much finished," Toni added.

"Well, in 2005 Rafael had to constantly live in pain.

Rafael-Nadal-1017569.jpg


Rafael Nadal has been struggling since 2005 (Image: Getty)
Rafael-Nadal-1507954.jpg


Rafael Nadal retired against Juan Martin del Potro (Image: Getty)

"From that time on, we couldn't finish training sessions a lot of times.

"A lot of times - almost always - he would have to take a painkiller because the pain would get worse and worse as the games went on.

"Because of some insoles that he started using, which solved his foot problem, he started having problems in his knee, back and other parts of his body."

The China Open gets underway on October 1 and former world No 2 Alex Corretja believes Nadal will be fit for the tournament.

“I would not say this is like a major injury, it's just something that he felt there,” he said.
Rafael-Nadal-1507958.jpg


Rafael Nadal will be hoping to return before the China Open (Image: Getty)

“I think he had a great preparation before the US Open because he won in Toronto and then he stopped, he got ready, he did some fitness, and then unfortunately he felt something during his second or third match as he said.

“Then he recovered from that but then he felt in the game.

“Definitely, it's a big disappointment for everyone, not only for us of course as Spanish people but it's just for all regular tennis fans.

“It looked that Rafa went to the court perfectly, he felt kind of something on the knee and we saw already that his face was not there.

“From the very beginning of the first set, you could see that he was not feeling comfortable.

“And unfortunately he had to retire. Because he cannot play 100 per cent and all the credit to Del Potro who pushed him so much side by side and hit winners all over the place.”

Leaving Nadal aside the ability to play with and through pain is one of the biggest keys to being a successful athlete. It's one reason why talented players who lack full commitment rarely get big results.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
I'm never quite sure what Toni expects us to think about stuff like this.

Millionaire athletes like Nadal, Federer etc basically are playing for themselves aren't they? If the rewards (not referring to just money here) they get from doing this are worth the pain to them, then that's fine but it has no "moral" worth does it, they're not facing pain to save someone's life.

Toni also doesn't seem particularly sympathetic to anyone else's pain either!

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/03/uncle-toni-rafa-has-been-more-pain-roger/46843/
 
LOL! It’s the tennis messageboards’ meme of “Nadal has never lost when healthy” come to life for reals.

What’s more, he’s never even been healthy, but either somewhat injured or completely injured, so the other meme of “Humble Rafito was injured but courageously overcame the odds to battle to victory” is also come to life.

This Tio has been a master psychologist and master tactician.
 
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icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
I have no doubt that nadal has played matches with pain and he obviously does have reoccurring knee issues but given how toni/the fans talk about the knees, I guess it's a miracle that at 32, he is at 17 slams and no.1 though perhaps that is the narrative that they want to craft.

They are not career threatening because if that were the case he would have been done a while ago.
 
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FiReFTW

Legend
Everyone was saying this back in 2005.

That Nadal wont last because his playstyle is very d*mb and too hard on the body.

They said he would retire at 28.

Well tney almost got it right, he destroyed his body but he takes painkillers and keeps playing.

What a smart guy.

Always thought Nadal is not very bright, destroying his body so he wont be able to walk when he is 50.

Instead of developing a less extreme playstyle aswell as not playing gazillion tournaments constantly.

He would not have won as much, but he would be healthier.

Theres no way he would win more IF he was more healthy, he is not as healthy precisely because he won so much, because he played so much and such an insanely taxing brutal style of play chasing every ball dowm like a madman.

Either he played smarter and won less and was less injured.

Or he played like he did and won more but at the price of pain and injuries.

He choose latter.
 

Ann

Hall of Fame
All he's saying is that Rafa has a congenital issue with his foot that affects his knees and he has to live with it.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
"For this reason, he's considered his well-being above wins and many times he's told me that he would have liked to win less in exchange for having less pain."

I can't really imagine Rafa would have settled for winning less in exchange for less pain!
If the pain was that bad surely he would have given up by now? The fact that he's been willing and able to play through it and still win big titles must mean that he thinks it's all worth it!

Serious injuries are the ones that prevent you from playing your best and threaten your career. Rafa can count himself lucky that none of his injuries have reached that level yet.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
"For this reason, he's considered his well-being above wins and many times he's told me that he would have liked to win less in exchange for having less pain."

I can't really imagine Rafa would have settled for winning less in exchange for less pain!
If the pain was that bad surely he would have given up by now? The fact that he's been willing and able to play through it and still win big titles must mean that he thinks it's all worth it!

Serious injuries are the ones that prevent you from playing your best and threaten your career. Rafa can count himself lucky that none of his injuries have reached that level yet.

Yes, that statement is totally illogical. If it was true then Rafa would stop playing now, wouldn't he?
 

reaper

Legend
"For this reason, he's considered his well-being above wins and many times he's told me that he would have liked to win less in exchange for having less pain."

I can't really imagine Rafa would have settled for winning less in exchange for less pain!
If the pain was that bad surely he would have given up by now? The fact that he's been willing and able to play through it and still win big titles must mean that he thinks it's all worth it!

Serious injuries are the ones that prevent you from playing your best and threaten your career. Rafa can count himself lucky that none of his injuries have reached that level yet.

I think his physical issues are career threatening. He's retired mid match at the last 2 hardcourt slams. He altered his schedule by not playing Cincinnati in order to be right for the USO and it didn't work. He missed a couple of months after the AO and isn't playing the post USO Asian swing. If you're having trouble getting on court and finishing big matches when you do your career is in jeopardy.
 
T

TennisFan97068

Guest
I think his physical issues are career threatening. He's retired mid match at the last 2 hardcourt slams. He altered his schedule by not playing Cincinnati in order to be right for the USO and it didn't work. He missed a couple of months after the AO and isn't playing the post USO Asian swing. If you're having trouble getting on court and finishing big matches when you do your career is in jeopardy.

He played 27 clay matches injury free in 8 weeks.
 

reaper

Legend
He played 27 clay matches injury free in 8 weeks.

I'm not sure how that alters what happened on hard courts which is about 2/3 of the circuit. Players don't default grand slam 1/4's or semis lightly, and he's defaulted 2 this year. I don't recall any other player doing that in one year so to me it indicates significant problems.
 
I hope that someone is keeping these articles. They should be archived for future research in moral history. It is highly unlikely that Nadal's accomplishments will be rivaled in the next several millennia, and we need to keep alive for posterity as much knowledge as we can about the feats that he accomplished in spite of having to overcome so many obstacles.
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
The truth is both Tony and Rafa were more than happy to use a taxing style of play based on Rafa's natural gifts, as long as it brought success.

It's the perfect couple really: one's a sadist, the other a masochist.

Tony should have stepped down and replaced with a real coach already in 2007.

I remember back in 2011 watching Rafa attempting to turn his backhand on his opponents first serves !!

That's what you get for receiving your training from a cheerleader.
 
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NoleFam

Bionic Poster
I think Toni is so wrapped up in his own world of Nadal and being Nadal's uncle and coach for so many years, that he doesn't realize that all top players are playing through pain at times just like Nadal. That's a part of being a world class athlete although it is not pretty at times. The term "blood, sweat and tears" is what every athlete has come to accept. His tone in this interview makes it sound like he thinks no other player suffered like Nadal or dealt with physical issues.
 
Toni is so obviously exaggerating the extent of the problem and just how much pain Rafa went through. Having serious chronic pains in your knees and back practically all the time for more than 10 years would make anyone absolutely miserable. Rafa is a very cheerful guy, he clearly enjoys playing a lot and in the majority of matches in his career, he didn't show any signs of feeling pain.

Still, I understand it was really difficult for him to deal with his condition on top of injuries. Ad I believe that he might've expressed the wish to have less pain even if it meant he wouldn't achieve as much.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Toni Nadal reveals all on Spaniard's long-running injury problems

RAFAEL NADAL is attempting to recover from another injury - but his uncle Toni claims the Spaniard is constantly struggling physically.
By AARON STOKES

13:54, Fri, Sep 14, 2018 | UPDATED: 14:42, Fri, Sep 14, 2018

US Open: Nadal says he ‘hates retiring’ but pain was too much


The world No 1 was forced to retire in the semi-final of the US Open when facing Juan Martin del Potro last weekend.

Nadal is resting at present but will be hoping to return in time for the upcoming China Open which takes place this Autumn.

However, speaking over the summer, the 31-year-old's uncle revealed even when the tennis star is fully fit, he is battling physical struggles from prior injuries.

"Rafael has been living with pain and painkillers since 2005," Toni said.

The specialist we went to told us that Rafael's career was pretty much finished

Toni Nadal

"For this reason, he's considered his well-being above wins and many times he's told me that he would have liked to win less in exchange for having less pain."

Nadal suffered a foot problem back in 2005 which could have led to the end of his tennis career.

"The specialist we went to told us that Rafael's career was pretty much finished," Toni added.

"Well, in 2005 Rafael had to constantly live in pain.

Rafael-Nadal-1017569.jpg


Rafael Nadal has been struggling since 2005 (Image: Getty)
Rafael-Nadal-1507954.jpg


Rafael Nadal retired against Juan Martin del Potro (Image: Getty)

"From that time on, we couldn't finish training sessions a lot of times.

"A lot of times - almost always - he would have to take a painkiller because the pain would get worse and worse as the games went on.

"Because of some insoles that he started using, which solved his foot problem, he started having problems in his knee, back and other parts of his body."

The China Open gets underway on October 1 and former world No 2 Alex Corretja believes Nadal will be fit for the tournament.

“I would not say this is like a major injury, it's just something that he felt there,” he said.
Rafael-Nadal-1507958.jpg


Rafael Nadal will be hoping to return before the China Open (Image: Getty)

“I think he had a great preparation before the US Open because he won in Toronto and then he stopped, he got ready, he did some fitness, and then unfortunately he felt something during his second or third match as he said.

“Then he recovered from that but then he felt in the game.

“Definitely, it's a big disappointment for everyone, not only for us of course as Spanish people but it's just for all regular tennis fans.

“It looked that Rafa went to the court perfectly, he felt kind of something on the knee and we saw already that his face was not there.

“From the very beginning of the first set, you could see that he was not feeling comfortable.

“And unfortunately he had to retire. Because he cannot play 100 per cent and all the credit to Del Potro who pushed him so much side by side and hit winners all over the place.”

It's funny that the author of the article is trying to leave an impression that Toni Nadal said it after the 2018 USO, but actually he has used Toni's quotes from the Congreso Murcia Sport & Business conference in Murcia, Spain in March (!) 2018. :p The same Toni's quotes were used in a zillion articles in March and the articles are available on the Internet.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/16/tennis/nadal-tennis-injury-toni/index.html
 
What's so well timed about an injury sustained in a grand slam semi final? Wouldn't that be one of the worst times to get injured?

He was referring to the fact that Nadal rarely gets injured in his best part of the season.

Doesn't that raise a suspicion with you?

Even a little?

Surely, one has to be a pretty blind believer to accept that Nadal has been healthy exactly for the parts of the season that allow him to win the most and is almost always "injured" for the parts that he has difficulties with.

On top of that that "foot issue" is turning into a farce.

He has run like a rabbit all his career, so, who is he fooling?

It is also somewhat cynical to whine about "it", considering that there are players on the tour whose careers have been ruined or greatly reduced by real serious injuries.

:cool:
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm never quite sure what Toni expects us to think about stuff like this.

Millionaire athletes like Nadal, Federer etc basically are playing for themselves aren't they? If the rewards (not referring to just money here) they get from doing this are worth the pain to them, then that's fine but it has no "moral" worth does it, they're not facing pain to save someone's life.

Toni also doesn't seem particularly sympathetic to anyone else's pain either!

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/03/uncle-toni-rafa-has-been-more-pain-roger/46843/

I'm sure that Uncle Toni doesn't expect anything from Fed devotees commenting on TTW. He spoke to the attendees of the Congreso Murcia Sport & Business conference in Spain (in March 2018).
 
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octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
He was referring to the fact that Nadal rarely gets injured in his best part of the season.

Doesn't that raise a suspicion with you?

Even a little?

Surely, one has to be a pretty blind believer to accept that Nadal has been healthy exactly for the parts of the season that allow him to win the most and is almost always "injured" for the parts that he has difficulties with.

On top of that that "foot issue" is turning into a farce.

He has run like a rabbit all his career, so, who is he fooling?

It is also somewhat cynical to whine about "it", considering that there are players on the tour whose careers have been ruined or greatly reduced by real serious injuries.

:cool:

Hmm. If Rafa's foot issue is a farce in your eyes, let me ask: isn't it a farce that someone who has reportedly had a chronic back problem since at least 2003, has run like a rabbit all his career and won 20 GS titles ?
 
Uncle Toni is a funny character.

When I read between the lines anytime Uncle Toni was brought up in Rafa's book, I've always had the sense that Nadal secretly blames him for how hard he pushes Rafa in training sessions for his injuries.

When is the Nadal going to openly blame Tio for ruining his talent?

That is the main problem that was ever presented, and something that is (thinly) veiled by the success the Nadal has as a tennis player.

That is the hard question that Nadal should write about.

:cool:
 
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