2018 Acapulco - ATP 500

Who will win the tournament?


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This match is the very example of routine. Winner never in doubt.
When was the last time Thiem beat a top player off clay?

EDIT: And Thiem breaks...
 
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Chadillac

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Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
...I’ve noticed over the years that when a player has 2 or 3 consecutive breakpoints at 40-15 or 40-0, they fail to break more often than not. But when they only have one BP, say at 40-30 or A-40, they’re more likely to break...

62 54 15-40 and Thiem breaks. :p

Do you mean why do you think it’s happening or why is it happening.

If the latter, I think before you ask why you have to demonstrate that it’s true. You have to back it up with the data not your anecdotal experience. I’ve noticed DelPo always plays possum when he’s losing but I’ve seen a small fraction of his matches so maybe he doesn’t do it when he’s losing and I’m not watching or maybe it makes a big impression on me when he does it and I think he does it more than he actually does.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
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Chadillac

Guest
Decent match, could of easily went three. Theim is kind of dumb, gets mini break at 2-0 and goes for one shot on next return. Plenty of non converted chances
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Only Dominic Thiem, a top 10 player could double fault on match point after blowing a 6-4 lead in the tiebreak.

Hilarious.
184 kph 2nd serve fault and then when he's serving for it he basically serves up a slow 2nd serve for a first.:rolleyes: Not the best shot selection.:oops:
 

imonfire

Rookie
Very close second set tiebreaker with two straight del Potro aces!:)
He also gifted Thiem 2 set points on a double fault, and yesterday if I recall correctly he made DFs on 2 games he was broken on by Ferrer. DFs are hurting him, he'll be a bigger threat if he can be a little more consistent on 2nd serve.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Thiem doing TTW proud with this glorious display of self flagellation. Thrilling the crowd and everybody not named Meles.

the stream stopped working for me. But the match was getting boring anyway
Them with ZERO plan on any point other than hitting it as hard he possibly can. Really sad to see someone with that much racket speed make it go to waste with absolutely zero plan about what to do any point and employ ZERO strategy.

Sad. @Meles
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-snake-

Hall of Fame
Thiem had a lot of nice returning in the end, but then Delpo had enough of that and served back to back bomb aces over 210 kph each.:eek:

Well at least Thiem didn't lose to Anderson. Please anyone but Anderson win this tournament.o_O


What's your beef with good ol' Kandy?
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
What's your beef with good ol' Kandy?
People complain about Zverev being boring, but KA literally is the same formula with all of the interesting parts removed.

I don't like servebots and have been quite pleased that Raonic, Isner, and Querrey are being held at bay right now. KA may be the last reliable servebot right now. He's playing great much to my chagrin.:mad: This really calls for Zedbot to shed his Zedrot skin and return to his throne as King of the Servebots, but again today he's not winning 2nd serve points all that well even against Harrison.:rolleyes:
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
He also gifted Thiem 2 set points on a double fault, and yesterday if I recall correctly he made DFs on 2 games he was broken on by Ferrer. DFs are hurting him, he'll be a bigger threat if he can be a little more consistent on 2nd serve.
On the whole Delpo served out of his mind, regularly clocking serves in the low 210 kphs.:rolleyes:
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Decent match, could of easily went three. Theim is kind of dumb, gets mini break at 2-0 and goes for one shot on next return. Plenty of non converted chances
Thiem is dumb; even I must admit this now. The beginning of this match was really cool with both players serving over 90% and some long power exchanges, but Delpo snuck the early break. Thiem ended up going away and losing like 8 of 9 games and boo birds came out (including me). Then he pulled it together and the late break in the 2nd was really something; not only did Thiem have some strong first returns off of hard, hard serves, but he also go way up on 2nd return and did some impressive hard bunt, blocking to rush Delpo into error. All very good stuff, but the Leopard tried to change his stripes with that lame 2nd serve masquerading as a first when serving with set point at 6-5 in TB. Thiem still dealing with a lot of scar tissue from Summer hard courts including the atrocious 2nd serve points won. Its a huge drop in his game from this time last year while everything else is through the roof.

To my eyes this was Delpo's best serving performance of his career. Thiem got a lot of racquets on ace quality balls and Delpo had a ton of close misses. Definitely Delpo's highest velocity serving and highly accurate as well tonight. The forehand for the most part was incredibly lethal and the backhand still continues to defy opponents. Thiem might have been the closest to exposing the Delpo backhand if he'd just kept with it.:rolleyes:
 

-snake-

Hall of Fame
People complain about Zverev being boring, but KA literally is the same formula with all of the interesting parts removed.

I don't like servebots and have been quite pleased that Raonic, Isner, and Querrey are being held at bay right now. KA may be the last reliable servebot right now. He's playing great much to my chagrin.:mad: This really calls for Zedbot to shed his Zedrot skin and return to his throne as King of the Servebots, but again today he's not winning 2nd serve points all that well even against Harrison.:rolleyes:

I see. But... (here we go again) Anderson is not a servebot. He's a well-known choker with big groundies and and pretty decent service game :p. Zverrated is a better returner/mover with a great BH and Paire's FH. It's Alex's cockyness what turns people off. I'm not a big fan of the big SA guy anyway. I just find it curious how every dude with a more decent serve is labeled as a servebot. Go watch Kandy vs Murray at the USO.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
I see. But... (here we go again) Anderson is not a servebot. He's a well-known choker with big groundies and and pretty decent service game :p. Zverrated is a better returner/mover with a great BH and Paire's FH. It's Alex's cockyness what turns people off. I'm not a big fan of the big SA guy anyway. I just find it curious how every dude with a more decent serve is labeled as a servebot. Go watch Kandy vs Murray at the USO.
He's botting like Cilic at 2014 US Open right now and absolutely pounding everything from the ground; its very, very monotonous.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Didn't see any of his Mex matches. If you're right, he may pull it off tho.
Well that's where the Zedbot comes in:
1. He's got the reach to snag back some bombs and break these bots
2. Zeddy's serve is big enough to hold reliably against servebots

40/2017 R16 Shanghai Masters Hard Juan Martin Del Potro Alexander Zverev 3-6 7-6(5) 6-4 2.10 - 1.72

Their last match was tight and full on dream Zedbot, but then his serve started to weaken in the 2nd and Delpo was able to pounce. Its been Zedrot ever since as he seemingly hurt himself trying to shock and awe Delpo last Fall.:(

Fortunately, Delpo and Z are a combined 10-0 versus KA.:D
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Well that's where the Zedbot comes in:
1. He's got the reach to snag back some bombs and break these bots
2. Zeddy's serve is big enough to hold reliably against servebots

40/2017 R16 Shanghai Masters Hard Juan Martin Del Potro Alexander Zverev 3-6 7-6(5) 6-4 2.10 - 1.72

Their last match was tight and full on dream Zedbot, but then his serve started to weaken in the 2nd and Delpo was able to pounce. Its been Zedrot ever since as he seemingly hurt himself trying to shock and awe Delpo last Fall.:(

Fortunately, Delpo and Z are a combined 10-0 versus KA.:D
The saddest person in Acapulco after DFThiem's choke...KAndyman 5-0 vs Thieminated.

RPS
 
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Deleted member 756486

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Really beginning to like Thiem so hopefully he pulls his **** together soon.
 

Fedole

Semi-Pro
Think there has been gradual improvement from Thiem on hard courts over the past 2 years, but not convinced he is ever going to be a serious frontrunner on that surface. Possibly on higher bouncing, slow ones like Indian Wells but not anything even slightly fast.

He is *definitely* going to be among the favourites for clay tournaments this year, though. I'd like others' opinions on this, but the clay field looks weak as this year. Hope Nadal isn't at 100% then Thiem has got a proper chance at the big ones.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
Thiem is dumb; even I must admit this now. The beginning of this match was really cool with both players serving over 90% and some long power exchanges, but Delpo snuck the early break. Thiem ended up going away and losing like 8 of 9 games and boo birds came out (including me). Then he pulled it together and the late break in the 2nd was really something; not only did Thiem have some strong first returns off of hard, hard serves, but he also go way up on 2nd return and did some impressive hard bunt, blocking to rush Delpo into error. All very good stuff, but the Leopard tried to change his stripes with that lame 2nd serve masquerading as a first when serving with set point at 6-5 in TB. Thiem still dealing with a lot of scar tissue from Summer hard courts including the atrocious 2nd serve points won. Its a huge drop in his game from this time last year while everything else is through the roof.

To my eyes this was Delpo's best serving performance of his career. Thiem got a lot of racquets on ace quality balls and Delpo had a ton of close misses. Definitely Delpo's highest velocity serving and highly accurate as well tonight. The forehand for the most part was incredibly lethal and the backhand still continues to defy opponents. Thiem might have been the closest to exposing the Delpo backhand if he'd just kept with it.:rolleyes:
Did you notice that Delpo has hardly been slicing at all? Somehow his confidence in the 2HB has come back, and that makes him less attackable.
 
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Deleted member 756486

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Think there has been gradual improvement from Thiem on hard courts over the past 2 years, but not convinced he is ever going to be a serious frontrunner on that surface. Possibly on higher bouncing, slow ones like Indian Wells but not anything even slightly fast.

He is *definitely* going to be among the favourites for clay tournaments this year, though. I'd like others' opinions on this, but the clay field looks weak as this year. Hope Nadal isn't at 100% then Thiem has got a proper chance at the big ones.
I don’t know why but I have a feeling this years RG final will be Thiem vs Djokovic.
What a final that would be if my feeling is correct! I’d look for Thiem to win in that match and I’ll be rooting for him to win a slam this year.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I don’t know why but I have a feeling this years RG final will be Thiem vs Djokovic.
What a final that would be if my feeling is correct! I’d look for Thiem to win in that match and I’ll be rooting for him to win a slam this year.

Switch allegiances now. Thiem is not winning the FO even if Nadal and Djoker are in iron lungs.
 
Why does Anderson fist pump even after one of his UE's? Beyond annoying. Worse than Zverev.
I don’t know. Yeah, I was asked a few times. You know, I feel like it allows me to play better tennis. That’s something I have always been looking, you know, at any edge I can get.

Everybody talks about how important the mental side is, so the faster you can reset after a point that maybe hasn’t gone your way, maybe a missed opportunity, definitely the better.

When you’ve played a good point and sort of acknowledging that also has a lot of positive, you know, effect that increases your confidence level.

So, you know, I think at first it took me a little bit of while, but as I have been playing more and more matches, it feels more and more comfortable.

I’m not sort of too aware of it right now. I feel like I’m putting more out there and I feel like it allows me to play better tennis, and it’s something I am definitely going to look to continue.
 

albertobra

Hall of Fame
Good hold on first game 2nd set for Jared. Now time to break. Even If so damn difficult to break Anderson. If Jared could hold till 4-4...things can turn around in his favor.
 
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Deleted member 756486

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Switch allegiances now. Thiem is not winning the FO even if Nadal and Djoker are in iron lungs.
Sorry but I’m on the Thiem Train! Even if he fails I’ll support him because he seems like a really cool dude.
Hoping he succeeds but if Rafa is healthy then I won’t have any expectations of him.
 
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